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[TRAILHEAD?] The Citizens of Virtue
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thebruce
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looking into Xander's band - Bridegroom of Blood...
Lila mentions a bandmate named "Steve", but there isn't a Steve listed on myspace, only a "Steph". All the band's events are cancelled, and one blog entry by "XG" (Xander!) apologizes for essentially shutting down the band. So it's definitely the right place. The question still is... where's Xander?

eta1: re-thinking the CoV events list - if this is a larger Christian ARG/viral, it's likely that CoV will in fact show up at these events as mock advertising (very similar to satirical skits and videos shown at events like Acquire the Fire). In which case, if the Passion event is today, there might be an influx of participants later on as people decide to go visit CoV's website.

eta1b: confirmed... META:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
found on a cached actor recruiting page: "We need four people to help hand out business cards and portray members of a fictional Christian organization before and during the Passions Concert on Monday, October 6th.
(4 people needed, aged 18-30)
This character is an earnest, extremely friendly young person who is part of a fictional right-leaning Christian organization."


eta2: there is also one single Xander Greene on facebook, but with 468 friends. Don't think that's the one.
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another_pilot_dwn
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ok, silly question. inlila's pics of her garden they are all normal, except for one that looks pixeled... is that anything? i don't have anything to run it through...

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another_pilot_dwn wrote:
ok, silly question. inlila's pics of her garden they are all normal, except for one that looks pixeled... is that anything? i don't have anything to run it through...

view the images directly (right-click, show image) and you'll see that they are all the same size/dimensions except for pic2.jpg -- she uploaded a smaller image and then used HTML to resize it, which is always an ugly result.

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Mardeaux
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Dear Miss Breed...

Hi everyone. It's my first time at this so I hope I'm following protocol and not spoiling the fun for anyone.

I was reading through the Camp Francis letters, running searches on people or phrases I found interesting. One such thing is the first letter to "Miss Breed." A search brought up a fact from the past. Clara Breed was a librarian that Japanese American kids used to write to from the concentration camps they were forced into after the bombing of Pearl Harbor.

If not a direct reference to the environment the kids of Camp Francis are in, it makes for a grin-inducing coincidence.

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Trillian
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Mardeaux that's very interesting. The camp description on the CoV site already gave me the creeps but the more we learn about it, the spookier it gets. I'm glad my parents never thought of sending me to any summer camps. Smile


There's a strange post in the Welcome-thread of the board:

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hey - we're the staff at westwinds community church and the citizens of virtue have been opposed to us for a very long time. they stalk our blogs and leave nasty notes in our morning pastries. we're so tired of hearing about the basilisk...

Posted by david, jvo, ben, j on Oct-07


Is it save to assume that it's just joke?

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matthewtodd
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westwinds

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Is it save to assume that it's just joke?


I did some google-in and they seem to be real people with no connection. Here are their blogs...


david - http://www.guerillahost.blogspot.com/
jvo - http://www.johnvoelzblog.blogspot.com/
ben - http://www.variousparables.blogspot.com/

and the church site is here: http://www.westwinds.org

BTW - this is my first ARG and I am loving it!!![/sup]

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lancelot
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 Interview

Ok, so I've got this going:


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how can I schedule an interview with pastor grace?


she said:


Quote:
Greetings Mr. Schaubert,

We are glad to hear of your interest in conducting an interview with Pastor Grace. Would you like to send questions for him to answer, or conduct a phone interview? And can you tell me where this interview would be appearing?

Prayerfully,

Savannah Merks
Public Relations Specialist
Citizens of Virtue
1-888-64-VIRTU
www.citizensofvirtue.com


then:

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I could just send him some questions for an initial interview, and then see where it goes from there. This interview would be used for my research on the virtuous nature of our society - specifically as to the nature of your work. It would appear in a small piece on a website of mine.

how would you like the questions?

- L


her reply?

Quote:
Please direct your questions to me and I will get them to Pastor Bryson as soon as I can fit them into his schedule. We can then proceed from there.

Thank you for your interest!


Prayerfully,

Savannah Merks
Public Relations Specialist
Citizens of Virtue
1-888-64-VIRTU
www.citizensofvirtue.com


Any suggestions on quesions to lead to clues and/or the release of one of the seven?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:34 pm
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deepblerg
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OMG, reading the first few pages of this thread made me wonder what's wrong with you people!! How could you possibly think that Citizens of Virtue was a real organisation releasing a real press release like that. Have you even read their website? It's hilarious! Yeah I'd be feeling pretty embarrassed right now...

These are the guys behind it http://lonesharkgames.com

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thebruce
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Thank you, for that. Yes, we know that, it's been mentioned. We've moved on.
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catherwood
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Oct.8 updates!

It's still 10/07 on my computer, but my east coast (past midnight) friend tells me the home page no longer displays "COMING SOON!"

And if I click on the Virtu-Volunteers graphic, I do see a newly updated page, complete with photos from Vancouver!
Quote:
Virtu-Volunteers will be at the following conferences this October:

Passion: Vancouver, Monday, October 6th
http://www.268generation.com

Catalyst: Atlanta, Friday, October 10th
http://www.catalystconference.com

National Youth Workers Convention: Sacramento, Friday, October 10th
http://www.nywc.com/

(To be honest, I hadn't visited that particular page recently, so I couldn't say when the text first appeared, but the photos have to be rather recent, if they were taken at yesterday's event)

Also, this has to be a new post on the Garden Wall forum, because Lila is reponding to a post about the Vancouver photos:
http://www.bulletinboards.com/v2.cfm?comcode=97625468&cat=2

Lemme see if I can make out all of the phone extensions from the photo:
Code:
1-888-64-VIRTU
ext.701 TEMPERANCE (violet)
ext.702 PATIENCE (indigo)
ext.703 CHASTITY (blue)
ext.704 KINDNESS (green)
ext.705 HUMILITY (yellow)
ext.706 DILIGENCE (orange)
ext.707 CHARITY (red)


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thebruce
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yup the events are the same, but the pics are new.
I just ran through the phone number and recorded the messages... however, 705 is playing the same message as 702.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:23 am
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Trillian
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Good find matthewtodd! I searched myself but only found the church site.

Can someone explain this to me: How is it possible that Xander (and the people on the other recordings) know about the message board and how to get there, when Lila set it up especially for the purpose of finding him because he disappeared and she hasn't hear of him?


BTW. Thanks for the files thebruce, that must have been a lot of work!

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thebruce
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not a problem... it's just audio ripped via skype, so it's not a lot of work to do Smile

good points re:xander. It wouldn't be an issue if Lila didn't think one of the voices might be him... she didn't say any were though, so technically none may be. But then, wouldn't she know the people who did the hack and recordings if they're pointing people t the site?

I'm seeing Fruitofthegarden as more of a 'resistance' group, opposed to CoV and working together to try to bring it down. But that only works, as you said, if Xander (who appears to be in the central reason for its existence) knows about it and is pointing people there.

UNLESS, those people are still at CoV, andhacked into their sytem in-house, trying to get people to fruitofthegarden, which they may know about but can't get access to - basically the hacked messages could be another cry for help. In which case, Xander may knowabout Fruitofthegarden, but may still be missing / held captive at CoV...

*waits for temperance =P*
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Trillian
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UNLESS, those people are still at CoV, andhacked into their sytem in-house, trying to get people to fruitofthegarden, which they may know about but can't get access to


That's what I assumed so far, because if they managed to hack CoV from the outside, it shouldn't be a problem for whoever-THEY-are to contact Lila/the board directly,...

But you're right, we don't have enough information, yet... Perhaps they better had scheduled patience for the first week. Wink

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Bartock
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Hey guys, jsut got caught up on this, and it seems somewhat interesting.

A quick questiong/suggestion: has anyone tried any other significant plant names on the Fruitofthegarden site? There might be more information there if they are some sort of resistance group ala thebruce's suggestion.

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