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Pr0LiFiX
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 		I found something interesting...
Alright, I was doing some research since I haven't updated myself on Cloverfield news and updates in a while. Nothing has happened so far, so I thought I'd go back and gather up some things for a little analyzing. And then it dawned on me...

Does anyone remember when Jamie received the tape from Teddy and played it? Do you guys remember what the message said. He said something along the lines of that Tagruato is building something, or captured something, for that matter. And then I remembered how he was spotted on the Brooklyn Bridge all dirty and scruffy-looking, almost obscured by the helicopter lights. It looked as if he was looking at the crowd behind him, but then I thought, "No, he's looking at the burning Tagruato oil tanker!" because at that angle, when HUD was momentarily shooting some footage he had pointed it at the same direction. Now what does this have to do with anything?

Alright, suppose that Teddy was somehow on board the Tagruato oil tanker, which was most likely holding Clover before it abruptly imploded upon the monster's awakening. That's what I'm going by because no one confirmed what caused the firestorm that was quite prominent during the rooftop scene crashing the party. And right before that brief firestorm that sent everyone running out of the apartment, on the news, you could clearly see the oil tanker capsized but NOT burning. It was NOT on fire.

I think that's what caused the firestorm, and for some reason the Tagruato oil tanker brought Teddy to Manhattan. Because the last we heard of Teddy he was captured by Tagruato upon some infiltration mission set up by TIDOwave themselves i.e the Chuai Station. I don't know about you guys but I found that to be quite interesting.

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noimagirlrlly
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 		I dont know how many times this has been said.

Trust me...with what we know there is NOTHING we havent thought of...so its been said

and we dismissed that guy on the bridge as not teddy.

I dont know when or where but we did

And when there is something we need to find they will tell us...

You beat a dead horse to a pulp and now that theres nothing left, youve began beaating at the dirt below it...

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noimagirlrlly wrote:
I dont know how many times this has been said.

Trust me...with what we know there is NOTHING we havent thought of...so its been said

and we dismissed that guy on the bridge as not teddy.

I dont know when or where but we did

And when there is something we need to find they will tell us...

You beat a dead horse to a pulp and now that theres nothing left, youve began beaating at the dirt below it...


i dont remember dismissing anything... sure that wasn't another board?
and since when have they ever told us what we needed to find? everything we figured out, WE FIGURED OUT. so to the op, your theory sounds very rational. things will come to a better conclusion after the next cfield though...

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 		I kind of agree with this theory. its very possible

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 		Why do you think the monster was in the tanker? If you followed the viral well enough you would know that Clover was already a loose canon when he woke up at the Chaui Station.

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Why do you think the monster was in the tanker? If you followed the viral well enough you would know that Clover was already a loose canon when he woke up at the Chaui Station.

But do you know for sure what happened between that and when it reached Manhattan?

Well, to me it seems like something broke out of the Tagruato oil tanker, because when Hud shot the footage of it burning in the water, off the shore of Manhattan, you can clearly see that it's capsized, broken and literally torn in two.

And like I said before, At one point we see it capsized, but not on fire (on the news in Rob's apartment), then comes the firestorm and eventually we see it again at the Brooklyn Bridge, on fire and all that, when Rob and his friends are making their way out of the city.

What exactly caused it to explode, much less capsize? The monster, maybe? That's why I'm saying that there was a possibility that the monster came from inside the oil tanker.

How they managed to get it inside of the tanker is beyond me. O_o

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Pr0LiFiX wrote:
?Sander wrote:
Why do you think the monster was in the tanker? If you followed the viral well enough you would know that Clover was already a loose canon when he woke up at the Chaui Station.

But do you know for sure what happened between that and when it reached Manhattan?

Well, to me it seems like something broke out of the Tagruato oil tanker, because when Hud shot the footage of it burning in the water, off the shore of Manhattan, you can clearly see that it's capsized, broken and literally torn in two.

And like I said before, At one point we see it capsized, but not on fire (on the news in Rob's apartment), then comes the firestorm and eventually we see it again at the Brooklyn Bridge, on fire and all that, when Rob and his friends are making their way out of the city.

What exactly caused it to explode, much less capsize? The monster, maybe? That's why I'm saying that there was a possibility that the monster came from inside the oil tanker.

How they managed to get it inside of the tanker is beyond me. O_o


Yea, so either clovey was inside the tanker or something he wanted was inside the tanker or he was just being an ass like when he killed those whales and didnt even eat them. I think he is smarter than we give him credit for, he could have remembered the tagruato logo on the tanker from before and decided to rip it to streads.

And 1 more thing remember Clovey comes from a egg like sac so maybe they could have captured the sac which makes SBN but didnt know it was Cloveys egg and put it inside a tanker and when Clovey hatched he broke out of the tanker and ran amok.

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BranJ wrote:
Pr0LiFiX wrote:
?Sander wrote:
Why do you think the monster was in the tanker? If you followed the viral well enough you would know that Clover was already a loose canon when he woke up at the Chaui Station.

But do you know for sure what happened between that and when it reached Manhattan?

Well, to me it seems like something broke out of the Tagruato oil tanker, because when Hud shot the footage of it burning in the water, off the shore of Manhattan, you can clearly see that it's capsized, broken and literally torn in two.

And like I said before, At one point we see it capsized, but not on fire (on the news in Rob's apartment), then comes the firestorm and eventually we see it again at the Brooklyn Bridge, on fire and all that, when Rob and his friends are making their way out of the city.

What exactly caused it to explode, much less capsize? The monster, maybe? That's why I'm saying that there was a possibility that the monster came from inside the oil tanker.

How they managed to get it inside of the tanker is beyond me. O_o


Yea, so either clovey was inside the tanker or something he wanted was inside the tanker or he was just being an ass like when he killed those whales and didnt even eat them. I think he is smarter than we give him credit for, he could have remembered the tagruato logo on the tanker from before and decided to rip it to streads.

And 1 more thing remember Clovey comes from a egg like sac so maybe they could have captured the sac which makes SBN but didnt know it was Cloveys egg and put it inside a tanker and when Clovey hatched he broke out of the tanker and ran amok.

Your latter explanation I think holds more ground. I'd imagine that the only way to possibly capture the monster was to have it subdued, if not by an extremely powerful sedative, but catching it while it was yet to be hatched.

If it were to have just appeared out of nowhere and tear the s*** out of the tanker, I'm sure someone would have noticed. But it already made its presence clear during the tremor, followed by the monster's roar, and eventually the firestorm that was the Tagruato tanker imploding/exploding.

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 		Please keep in mind we have sightings of MGP at the Chuai station as seen in the photos of such from underwater, at about the time of it's destruction. We also have a tanker destroyed at sea (one of the Chuai videos covered this) before the attack on NYC.

If that's not enough...

We have the sightings of the parasites near Chuai before it's destruction also from the same batch as the image of MGP under the station. How does a hatched in a tanker (and thus carefully obtained and transported) little pod suddenly grow full sized parasites that are nowhere near it?

MGP didn't hatch from the tanker, he wasn't contained in the tanker - else he couldn't be destroying another at sea before that. I don't think the beasty would just crawl happily into the same kind of thing it destroyed.

Methinks you folks are following red herrings.
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Euchre wrote:
Please keep in mind we have sightings of MGP at the Chuai station as seen in the photos of such from underwater, at about the time of it's destruction. We also have a tanker destroyed at sea (one of the Chuai videos covered this) before the attack on NYC.

If that's not enough...

We have the sightings of the parasites near Chuai before it's destruction also from the same batch as the image of MGP under the station. How does a hatched in a tanker (and thus carefully obtained and transported) little pod suddenly grow full sized parasites that are nowhere near it?

MGP didn't hatch from the tanker, he wasn't contained in the tanker - else he couldn't be destroying another at sea before that. I don't think the beasty would just crawl happily into the same kind of thing it destroyed.

Methinks you folks are following red herrings.


Well i had doubts that he was in the tanker in the get go, but i used the egg idea to make it more possible. And secondly i think cloveys egg is the Sea anemone(canivore plant) that was mentioned on tidowave.com, so i believe that the parasites pollinate the Sea anemone(clovey egg) which later creates Clovey so they have a big bus to drive em around....so everyone wins XD

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Euchre wrote:
Methinks you folks are following red herrings.

Really?...Methinks there isnt even a red herring to follow...

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noimagirlrlly wrote:
Euchre wrote:
Methinks you folks are following red herrings.

Really?...Methinks there isnt even a red herring to follow...

Ah, and methinks that was just a figure of speech not to be taken literally. Wink

And about the hatched from within the tanker theory, I wouldn't completely dismiss it. I remember seeing a video where Neville Page was showing a three-dimensional, CG build of the monster that seemed to be curled up in a ball. And I think someone mentioned that this could be what the monster looked like before it's hatching period or if it were to be confined.

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 		I think you shouldn't take the Manga seriously. I think the tanker got destroyed and that we saw the Tagruato logo just as a nod to the fans. (Or Clovie followed it to New York and that caused Manhattan to get destroyed.) But in now way was Clovie on the tanker. Because if so, that would mean Tagruato stopped the monster after it destroyed Chaui Station and brought it to New York on purpose, this also means that Tagruato has a way to stop the monster and they didn't use it in New York. According to the blu-ray "investigation mode", Ganu Yoshida is now the most wanted man in the United States. Razz

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 		Re: I found something interesting...
Pr0LiFiX wrote:
I think that's what caused the firestorm, and for some reason the Tagruato oil tanker brought Teddy to Manhattan.


I'm with you on the Teddy being in Manhatten at the time of the attack, and most likely came in on the tanker but the firestorm seen from the roof was not the tanker. No one knows what it was, probably not even JJ et al.

The fireball was inland. The explosion can clearly be seen centered between 4 large buildings, in front of two of them, and behind the other pair. That put the explosion centered roughly on the park surrounding the New York City Hall.

Search my posts and you'll find links w/ pictures and maps to prove it, along with discussion of the explosions magnitude..
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 		Re: I found something interesting...
Animaniac wrote:
Pr0LiFiX wrote:
I think that's what caused the firestorm, and for some reason the Tagruato oil tanker brought Teddy to Manhattan.


I'm with you on the Teddy being in Manhatten at the time of the attack, and most likely came in on the tanker but the firestorm seen from the roof was not the tanker. No one knows what it was, probably not even JJ et al.

The fireball was inland. The explosion can clearly be seen centered between 4 large buildings, in front of two of them, and behind the other pair. That put the explosion centered roughly on the park surrounding the New York City Hall.

Search my posts and you'll find links w/ pictures and maps to prove it, along with discussion of the explosions magnitude..


I agree with you 100% on this one. The explosion was used in the teaser which was only used to get people interested, so when the movie was done i bet they considered taking that scene out, but would make some fans mad.

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