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[TheHorselessHorseman]

You are more than welcome. It only started two weeks ago

[Wulf74]

[courtknee]

[onedreamofsleep]

First ARG, sorry if I'm off base.

Recent discussion speculates if people can move back and then leave again. Also, it's odd young professionals are encouraged to go to the Canning district where the Godseed may or may not be buried? And considering an older couple is pictured when they say it's time to repopulate, teens are especially encouraged, and the family tree may or may not absord/feed the godseed to keep them contained....perhaps if we do bring the new folks in they are specifically there to sustain the fragments, keeping their family trees underground as a buffer from the godseed, living a life of vermouth margaritas and romance, and while the hunger is satisfied by the new bodies, teens can begin the repopulation? Many stabs in the dark here.

Also, I'm in Milwaukee. It's interesting to me that Elsa's on the Park, a real Milwaukee restaurant, is listed in the credits but of course not shown. Elsa's is known for being one of the best cities to get hamBURGERS, especially for out of towners, ESP for NYC celebrities in the past I'm told...I'm going to go check it out tomorrow afternoon. Long shot, since the IRL has been in NYC so far, but I'm not ready to rule it out...any suggestions for behavior, or anyone wanting to come? Of course I will order a hamBURGER...

[Giff Hoyt]

Here's something that just occurred to me. Not sure if anything will come of it but I thought it was an interesting parallel.

We call all agree that this world that TIMM is similar to many other futuristic societies in science fiction (literature, TV, and films alike). I'm not sure if it's been mentioned before, but it reminds me of Brave New World a little bit.

In Huxley's "Brave New World", the idol that society worships is Henry Ford (the year dated A.F. instead of A.D.). I once read that Huxley came up with this concept after reading a book that Ford wrote.

This is a lot like TIMM's idolization of Voltaire. I know that we don't know for sure if TIMM's Voltaire is supposed to be the famous philosopher or not, but it's still possible they do mean that Voltaire, so bear with me. Perhaps in this world, a copy of Voltaire's "Candide" (or one of his other works) was discovered, and became the basis for what to believe in an how to live; became THE religious text.

Interestingly enough, in the French version of "Brave New World" the title is "Le Meilleur des Mondes" (English translation is "The Best of All Worlds"), which is a phrase the character Dr. Pengloss said in Voltaire's "Candide".

I don't have anywhere else to go with this but I thought they were interesting coincidences.

[kyuurijanaidesu]

[dreamerblue]

My interpretation of the "two parts" of the family tree has been that there is a big bulb bit (the part that gets covered with dirt) and the beginning of a sprout (the upper bit looks like branches extending up, and the "second part" that people have mentioned is actually a cloud of leaves that are attached to the upwards-extending branches...much like a young child would draw a tree as a brown rectangle with a green cloud-shaped chunk of leaves on top).

[mrbass]

[chrismenning]

Fennel Bulb = Family Tree? Why?

[mrbass]

Re: Fennel Bulb = Family Tree? Why?

[chrismenning]

Re: Fennel Bulb = Family Tree? Why?

[tubbytango]

Tubbytango here, ready to join in on the fun. You know, it's hard not to formally join p after reading 79 pages in one sitting .

I'll do all I can to be of assistance.

[kyuurijanaidesu]

Okay, someone mentioned a while back the video starting at -2:15 min:sec, and that there's a scene change at +2:15, but I didn't see whether anyone followed up on that so I just want to check now. I freezeframed at +2:15 and screencapped it:


[img]http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture4ck0.png[/img]

Not sure how significant it is... There's a girl walking by in the background, is she in anything else? Chess players? Anyone have any theories?

[kyuurijanaidesu]

[Grue]

I watched the chess players scene and I can't see anything that stands out, but the scene before that (Tide advertisement) reminded me of something that has been bothering me for a while. Notice how it says "Spring 2006". It is apparent that in-game characters are familiar with our calendar, yet they prefer to use their own, more complicated, dating system (DOR/TRO/ACT).

Why would Blackstar (or whoever) create their own dating system? Because the existing one wasn't good/precise enough! I believe that my two parallel universes theory explains it quite well. We have two timelines: dormant and active and they overlap. Once Blackstar discovered that the time is non-linear, they had to come up with an appropriate dating system, and implement it in the areas they control. The people from the other areas may be unaware of the fact that two universes exist, so they continue to use old Gregorian calendar. That's why the video uses it for better communication. But the book uses Milwaukee dating system so that potential settlers could learn how to use it.