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[META] Long long long threads
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Varin
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 		I'm all for the minimum number of threads, but I don't think we should have the hard and fast rule of one thread per site. I think if there are different facets to the site we could have a couple of threads to deal with them. Those long 40 page threads are discussing so many facets of the one site that it's hard to follow, especially when people aren't using the quote function.

Maybe we need to divide the ARG:Metcortechs section further? Perhaps in addition to the General/Updates, Quick Ref, Interaction and Puzzles we could have Storyline? Off Topic? I don't know. Just throwin around some ideas.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2003 2:35 pm
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Ehsan
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Varin wrote:
I'm all for the minimum number of threads, but I don't think we should have the hard and fast rule of one thread per site. I think if there are different facets to the site we could have a couple of threads to deal with them. Those long 40 page threads are discussing so many facets of the one site that it's hard to follow, especially when people aren't using the quote function.


Okay let's throw around some ideas and see what we can do..

Right now there's no rule to limit things to one thread per site. In fact, the long threads are so topic specific that I can't figure out a way to split them further. One of the longer topics for example is about "October 9 pictures at paintover" .. It's not about the entire site, just a specific section..

And again I have to point out everybody's favourite 40 page thread, the carelessly files. How can we split that into seperate threads? It's already dedicated to a specific topic which cannot be narrowed down..

Let's start a brainstorming session...

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Varin
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 		I really feel for you guys, Ehsan. You've got alot of work here and alot of people commenting on it. Thanks for all your work and I'm glad I don't have your job Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2003 2:51 pm
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Varin
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And again I have to point out everybody's favourite 40 page thread, the carelessly files. How can we split that into seperate threads? It's already dedicated to a specific topic which cannot be narrowed down..

Let's start a brainstorming session...


Just gonna brainstorm here then (you asked Wink )...

I don't know how you could seperate it. I guess in the beginning we could have started a new thread for each file, and discuss each in its own thread, but I think it's too late to do that know. Too many posts discussing multiple files. I wish there was a way to have sub threads within threads, but I don't think this forum supports that?.

Maybe we need a summary thread which lists just the definite facts and no spec? Or maybe a "spec" thread and a "solved so far" thread?

Maybe its too late to fix past threads like the 41 page monster. I can only imagine that picking through that whole thing and deciding what goes where would be really time-consuming and difficult. I don't even want to read it let alone read and reorganize it.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2003 3:11 pm
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FrankenPaula
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 		Here's a suggestion. When we played the Beast on the Yahoo boards, we had the general message board that anybody could post to. We also had a moderated forum that was used by the mods to repost important posts that mentioned new information that's been found, solutions for puzzles, or interesting spec. Only the mods could post there so you wouldn't get long threads developing, just a few of the most important posts from each day would be reposted there. They wouldn't post an entire thread, just the most important message or messages. That way, if you don't have time to go through every single thread, you can just refer to that forum to catch up on the most important developments. The mods could put a link to the actual thread at the top of each post so that if you're interested in following that topic in more detail, you can always head over and do that. Plus there was the added thrill of having your post "promoted" to the moderated board. Smile

Of course it would add more work to the mods and might be too much to keep up with...

Btw, I want to add my vote to allowing more than one thread for a website if they discuss different aspects of the website. There might not be an official policy forbidding that, but I've seen several threads locked down and people sent to the main thread for that website, even though, in my opinion, the new threads were discussing a different aspect of the website than the main thread.

Paula

PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2003 6:19 pm
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GOD
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 		Here's an idea...
Idea Cool

Make the "important threads" STICKY so they are permanently at the top - especially the longer threads.

Anyone who misses a STICKY thread should be "HOOKED LIKE A TROUT AND DEEP FRIED" Exclamation Laughing


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Azathoth666
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 		I can certainly put my hand up here as a newbie to the whole ARG thing, and as a late discoverer of Metacortex, the most difficult thing I've found is sifting through the voluminous discussion (on this and other forums) that this has generated in order just to catch up.

I agree that thread-minimalism (threadbareness?) is the way to go, but can I urge a bit of compassion here? Fair enough, lock out all the dud-forums before they start duplicating information, but remember that there's a lot of first-timers suffering from information overload, who may have never posted to a forum before, are unfamilliar whith how it all works, and are keen to be involved in some way.

I myself suffer from the tyranny of distance (being in Oz), and can neither involve myself in chat or PM about any of this because 90% of my involvement is done at the office. I know that's no excuse for dropping the ball, which I have done in the past Embarassed but keep in mind it's hard for people to get onboard.

God, Varin, top ideas IMHO. Further dividing the Metacortex section certainly adds a bit of scope without risking too much blowout. And not reading a sticky... well, open season I guess. Smile just as long as there's a sticky telling n00bs to read the stickies... Laughing

Just my two cents, for what it's worth.
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Monki
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 		My three sense
Just wanted to chime in a little bit...

As far as the multiple posts about a site.. i think that makes COMPLETE sense... I mean, I don't want only one thread for Paintover when there are multiple files to work on...

Also, when new things come out, people get really excited and usually create new threads to talk about it..

Honestly, I've been really happy about how the site has been run so far.

-Monki
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2003 9:52 pm
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yanka
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 		Re: My three sense
Monki wrote:

Honestly, I've been really happy about how the site has been run so far.
-Monki


I'll second that.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2003 10:21 pm
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BoJangles
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Ehsan wrote:
Let's take the example of the "carelessly files" thread, which is obviously the biggest with 600 posts. How would you seperate that? Assume we cut it into one thread for each file, so since we have 15 carelessly files we'll have 15 seperate thread..


As to the carelessly files a good thing to seperate it is to allow a thread for the crossword, it got very very tedious reading the other day. All the posts seemed to be were "one down is .... i think" and " no no one down should be this or maybe this" That was pointless and wasted my whole afternoon attempting to read those posts. If it had been in one thread then I could have looked at the topic and gone "gee this is not my thing, I will read it when I have time tonight." I always try to read every post and yes I use the feature that tells me all the new posts since my last visit. (beware of that though if you remain logged in too long it marks all post read Confused ) Another problem is that if you dont remember what page you last read you pretty much have to go through the posts. IE you last read page 5 and now it is on page 8, if you dont find the first post that you have not read then it will mark all posts in that thread to have been read. SO... you jump to page 3 not remembering where you were and then you see no new posts so you go to page 4 and its seems you have read this before so move on to page 5 and again you remember it but move on to page 6 and it is all new but nothing is marked as new! This is much more annoying when you jump in too far in the pages and end up going back! Evil or Very Mad

I am not trying to suggest that this forum have 600 threads with one or two posts a page I am suggesting that something be done to stop the massive pages of posts that have started arising. As Paula said there has been locking down of threads by the mods and sending the converstation to a long thread (ie Wongmo). There are different aspects of the site that need to be dealt with seperately. All you need are 3-4 (est.) threads on the aspects of Wongmo.

Although I say this quite often, I think that Varin is right. We need to figure out a way to break them down more.

Later, Mel
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