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[INFO] "Milwaukee: A Reasonable Haven" Informational Booklet
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FeloniousDrunk
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 		MINOS?
I was looking for better-matching graphs to p. 27 and stumbled on this Google Image Search for "muon mwe gev".

Muons, and a map of the region of the TIMM world. No, I don't have any solid conclusions, I'm just throwing it out in the spirit of constructivism. Wink

Oh, and I was drunk way before Mike!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:27 pm
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SubGothius
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 		 0-9 = 9-0?
If there's only one Blackstar Merger
If the Blackstar Merger of DOR 4 and ACT 5 is one and the same event, merely noted on different year-date scales that overlap like so:
Code:
DOR 9876543210
ACT 0123456789

The interesting thing I just realized about this: it neatly transposes the digit range 0-9 against itself in reverse order 9-0. Useful, perhaps?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:15 pm
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SubGothius
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Beeswax wrote:
scotty2012 wrote:
Ok, we need to be focused on the chart on page 27, not the one on page 26. I sent an email to russo and mars and asked them what tale the charts actually told worse than words. here's Russo's response (from 1am):

Quote:
heyu look im can make e a PICTURe

HOLD ON I CAN TYPE O K WHEN I CLOSE ON OF MY EYES

LOOK AT THIS PIC OF COOL DOG


/\____/\
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|= == |
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fuck

Great work Scotty,

My translation into "sober":
Quote:
Hey look I can make a PICTURE.

HOLD ON I CAN TYPE OK WHEN I CLOSE ONE OF MY EYES

LOOK AT THIS PIC OF COOL DOG

/\____/\
|== ==|
| \_o_/ |
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fuck

Hm, with this reference to blurred vision and making a picture, I wonder if we'll find an autostereogram image somewhere? Or just a steganographic image like I'd wondered about earlier? Is closing one eye a hint to pay more attention to winks (I noticed a lot of winking in the video)? Your "sober" version of ASCII Cool Dog looks better, but was there perhaps something significant about his original? He did practically command us to "LOOK AT THIS PIC".

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:38 pm
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atomicthumbs
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 		Re: MINOS?
FeloniousDrunk wrote:
I was looking for better-matching graphs to p. 27 and stumbled on this Google Image Search for "muon mwe gev".

Muons, and a map of the region of the TIMM world. No, I don't have any solid conclusions, I'm just throwing it out in the spirit of constructivism. Wink

Oh, and I was drunk way before Mike!


Well, Fermilab is 113 miles from Milwaukee. I don't think this is relevant, though.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:58 am
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kid fay
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 		thoughts from a mechanical engineer
I just joined, but I've been following this thing since the 1st video came out. I grew up SSW of Milwaukee along the state line and I'm in Madison as a UW student so things that mention stuff you know are always interesting, not to mention the video was pretty funny. I've been following the wiki and the SA forum and here since then and I've got a few thoughts.

I'm a mechanical engineering student so all this 'M-rotor' and 'spinning' instantly reminded me of electric motors. On page 8 in the manual, it mentions rotors in DOR 200 and compasses in DOR 180. Turbines can be used with steam but they weren't developed until around WWII. However, steam engines were first adapted from only producing reciprocating motion to spinning motion around 1780. Compasses > magnetism > electricity > batteries. Batteries were first made in 1800. Those two are 20 years apart in both scales, but then DOR 0 would be 1980 instead of this year, which lines up with the Debussy and Berlin wall mentions. Also to me that picture looks more like a watch, but that makes less sense.

On page 26, chthonic means from the earth. It also talks about a M-collapse. Also on previous pages here people noticed that brass is non-magnetic, which is true. So brass would not be used in a motor since it'd be a magnetic insulator.

Call me crazy, but here's a connection that I made. A few years ago, I read 'Atlas Shrugged'. In it, a guy in a factory in Milwaukee invents a motor that can generate energy from seemingly nothing, then Milwaukee ends up being abandoned. I remember that because it seemed really random at the time and I was "Wisconsin, yeah!".

Perhaps Blackstar tried to make something like that. Perhaps they tried to make a giant magnetic monopole, which would be a magnet with just a north. Maybe you could run an electric generator, magnetic fields move electricity and visa-versa (an electric motor is basically a magnet spun by electricity and a generator is a spinning magnet inducing electric current in wires, in case you didn't know) off of a magnetic monopole. They've never been made or observed, but weird stuff might happen, that was one of the things people against the LHC a few months ago said.

So maybe they made a big monopole, the godseed, to run electric generators from nothing and end the age of dinosaurs, or fossil fuels, and it was so big it started to mess up the planet's magnetic field. I think the people in the movie know they're actually in New York, since what would there to film in destroyed Milwaukee? And they invite people to face special challenges, so together that makes me think only the Midwest is affected. The earth's magnetic field funnels solar radiation to the poles, think northern lights, so if there's a third pole centered on Milwaukee that would direct radiation toward the area, maybe even directly open a magnetic path to the sun. Not to mention ozone, which blocks UV rays, which are deadly to plants and animals, is a polar molecule so there might not be an ozone layer over the midwest, which would mean nothing would be able to live, making it into a desert. Didn't Terry Nanny mention how they didn't notice the environment dying?

I suppose then, the godseed fragments would be either some kind of magnetically trapped plasma, which you definitely wouldn't want to touch, or chunks of the magnet or magnetic metal doing stuff and flying around in the weird magnetic field. This ties in with brass being non-magnetic and maybe why they tried to bury it. Also on the same page, it talks about an M(agnetic?)-collapse if 80% of rotors are spinning. Either they run motors to make magnetic fields to cancel out the big magnet to make the city normal or the magnetic fields of running that many motors at once is too much for the brass to insulate their buildings against. Also there are solar flares, perhaps relating to flare guns? Flare guns shoot magnetism to disturb the magnetism patterns that make godseed fragments?

Also on SA someone connected the second zip code of pg 27, 40225, as being only for GE's Appliance Park in Kentucky. Appliances have electric motors and GE is also big in engineering and motors and stuff like that, not to mention they're a huge corporation. Is Blackstar GE? Also GE had a big merger in 2004, Blackstar had a merger in DOR 4, which fits the timeline.

Other things not particularly important: Milwaukee completed miles of deep tunnels under the city earlier this decade for sewer storage because they'd always overflow and have to dump into the lake when it'd rain. And the mayor mentions that you arrive at the East gate on pg 1. East of Milwaukee is the lake and there's the line from Grand Rapids on the map.

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Beeswax
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 		Atlas Shrugged would be another Bioshock link.

My theory on the M-Rotors is that they're inside people/robots, possibly as a source of power, possibly as you say as some kind of defense system. They become unseated at certain times generating a humming sound, possibly at moments of excitement.

My reading of the professional couple scene in the first video is,
* "sex with things other than humans"
* Drinking, dancing close.
* Humming sound starts - an M-Rotor becoming unseated?
* She looks nervous and thinks "he doesn't know does he?"
* Advice flashes up over the guy thinking, advising not to push the rotor in an attempt to reseat it. He's behind and has his arms round her waist.
* Now either of them could have the M-Rotor, or perhaps both, it's not clear. She could be thinking "does he know he's making that noise", or "can he hear my M-Rotor".
* Anyway they jettison each other pretty effectively.

In the next video,
* M-Rotor humming starts as he approaches the guy with the family tree.
* Glasses break - from vibration?

Anyway my theory is the M-Rotors are in people or are people.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:18 am
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nwfisk
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 		Well, I got a response from Russo! Very Happy

But, even though this is just a game, now I feel badly for making him more upset. Sad

Here's what I got back:

Quote:

Hello Mike,

I'm really enjoying that booklet you guys sent out the other day!

A friend of mine told me that the chart on page 27 makes him want to WORK IN THE SUN; GROW YOUR FAMILY TREE. Isn't that strange?

I hope I can buy you a drink when I get to Milwaukee!

-Nathan

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Nathan,

That booklet leak almost cost me my job. And I'm sick to my goddamn stomach of Larose treating me like a child. You want to know something? You've got the right idea, sure, but you're missing the finer point. People don't LIKE to talk about things that have bothered them, or ruined them, or threaten them. So they skirt around the issue, or describe it out of context, or with numbers, or, even worse, use these stupid euphemistic allusions rather than confront the real issue. Clearly you have to apprehend what I'm indicating.

-MR


Strange that the last sentence is there once again. "euphemistic allusions..." Hmm....

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parm
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 		from the communications thread:
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hey guys, I got the, uh, pre-approved version of the handbook. Sounds like the bosses were a little upset. I have a quick question: What grim tale exactly do the charts on page 26 and 27 tell better than words? I'm confused.

Thanks,
Scott


Random thought: Grim tale = grimm fairy tales?
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kyuurijanaidesu
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parm wrote:
from the communications thread:
Quote:

hey guys, I got the, uh, pre-approved version of the handbook. Sounds like the bosses were a little upset. I have a quick question: What grim tale exactly do the charts on page 26 and 27 tell better than words? I'm confused.

Thanks,
Scott


Random thought: Grim tale = grimm fairy tales?


That's actually not that random - you might have something there. I'd find it odd if they used that exact wording and didn't MEAN something by it o_O Maybe something for you guys who are still going over the charts?

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MatMali
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 		"So they skirt around the issue, or describe it out of context, or with numbers, or, even worse, use these stupid euphemistic allusions rather than confront the real issue. Clearly you have to apprehend what I'm indicating."

Awesomeness, nwfisk. My thoughts:

The dinosaurs and dormant era man living in peace section is probably just about when oil wasn't a worrysome issue. The numbers - the graphs, of course. And the other thing that I'm really wondering about is the compass page.
"and with the replication of the compass in 180, the playing field was finally level."

Every single other date in the book has either ACT, DOR, or TRO in front of it. I know it could just be because DOR 200 was already mentioned...but it still makes me wonder if that wasn't a big hint. I flipped it in paint and stared at it for about an hour, with no results. It just seems like it's a great big HINTHINT sort of thing to me.

Edit: Another tiny little thing I forgot to mention: The o in "role" on that page has one of those little marks above it, (I can't remember for the life of me what those things are called!) which I find kind of odd.

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parm
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MatMali wrote:
Edit: Another tiny little thing I forgot to mention: The o in "role" on that page has one of those little marks above it, (I can't remember for the life of me what those things are called!) which I find kind of odd.


A cirumflex? That's a correct, albeit slightly archaic, way of spelling "role". "Hotel" should technically have one, too. IME, you see it more in US newspapers/magazines than in British ones. I personally wouldn't read too much into it - but don't let me stop you thinking down that line if you want!
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canebrake
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MatMali wrote:
And the other thing that I'm really wondering about is the compass page.
"and with the replication of the compass in 180, the playing field was finally level."

Every single other date in the book has either ACT, DOR, or TRO in front of it. I know it could just be because DOR 200 was already mentioned...but it still makes me wonder if that wasn't a big hint.


Sounds like a big hint to me, now that you mention it. I'd been assuming it was a date, but this fits (more or less) with the really cool ideas of kid fay. Maybe "replication of the compass in 180" means that Blackstar accidentally produced a geomagnetic reversal. This is something that has happened naturally a number of times in Earth's history http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_reversal, but it would be a pretty big deal to bring it about artificially.

This fits with the dino pics. If the stuff on p. 3 is viewed as a standardly oriented map (and we know from the Active Cities map [page 0] that their map orientation standards are the same as ours), the stegosaurus is at N and the triceratops at S; this is during the old days of the dormant period. Later, on p. 8, the needle (which indicates north) is pointing away from the stegosaurus and toward the triceratops.

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thingreenveil
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 		I'm not sure if anyone has talked about this at all. I haven't really had time to read through the 20 something pages, but has anyone noticed the "NM" above the left hand in "School Day" under the Dark Dollar Arrangement section of the "A Reasonable Haven" proof?


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/Rookie333339/NMDarkDollarArrangements.jpg

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GMcG
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thingreenveil wrote:
I'm not sure if anyone has talked about this at all. I haven't really had time to read through the 20 something pages, but has anyone noticed the "NM" above the left hand in "School Day" under the Dark Dollar Arrangement section of the "A Reasonable Haven" proof?


http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y58/Rookie333339/NMDarkDollarArrangements.jpg


I took that to mean "no movement" since it's the only position where one card doesn't move.

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 		Could it be that the 180 on page 8 refers to rotating the page/book 180 degrees?

Perhaps it plays back into page 3 where the stegosaurus and triceratops first appear...

Sorry, I am just throwing out some ideas while I look over the book for the hundredth time. Smile

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