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[PUZZLE] The SILVIA Files
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BrianEnigma
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Marl64 wrote:
Something that's been bugging me.

If the file types identify hackers, why are there less here than there were in the carelessly files?

"Qm2", "M_U" and , "goo" are missing.


Maybe they are the ones that got "fried," as per silvia3.mic(.txt)?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 1:05 pm
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Marl64
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yanka wrote:
IAmMeIAm wrote:
I'm pretty sure the the first ypt file either was generated by a program...


So, is "ypt" the poet that "scratch" addresses in "carelessly"? And what about his other 2 speeches? I don't think they are encrypted words, because it would be pretty hard to encrypt a bunch of words in such a way that they all turn out to be a bunch of other actual words...


I've been mulling over these for a while (something to do while the Spoonbenders worked out the Tarot).

I'm convinced it is to do with language or the structure of language or something like that so Peotry would fit in with that.

Though "silvia.ypt" appears to be a stream of words, it is actually a series of phrases seperated by commas. Each phrase is made up of four words in the format Adjective, Noun, Verb, Adverb. Which would fit with the idea of something generated to a template.

Taking the others;

I've tried substituting words with Synonyms and Antonyms.
I've tried looking for root word origins.
I've tried substitution, mapping words to letters, Sillabils to letters
I've tried selecting one letter from each word, One Word from each line.
I've tried using alternate meanings for words

Nothing. Aaaargh Confused

I'm more and more convinced that (like the Tarot), this is much simpler than it looks, maybe our hacker just likes "bullsh1t bingo".

Who was the writer who did the poems with the nonesense language?

Oh Yeah Edward Lear


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 1:06 pm
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Marl64 wrote:
yanka wrote:
IAmMeIAm wrote:
I'm pretty sure the the first ypt file either was generated by a program...


So, is "ypt" the poet that "scratch" addresses in "carelessly"? And what about his other 2 speeches? I don't think they are encrypted words, because it would be pretty hard to encrypt a bunch of words in such a way that they all turn out to be a bunch of other actual words...


I've been mulling over these for a while (something to do while the Spoonbenders worked out the Tarot).

I'm convinced it is to do with language or the structure of language or something like that so Peotry would fit in with that.

Though "silvia.ypt" appears to be a stream of words, it is actually a series of phrases seperated by commas. Each phrase is made up of four words in the format Adjective, Noun, Verb, Adverb. Which would fit with the idea of something generated to a template.

Taking the others;

I've tried substituting words with Synonyms and Antonyms.
I've tried looking for root word origins.
I've tried substitution, mapping words to letters, Sillabils to letters
I've tried selecting one letter from each word, One Word from each line.
I've tried using alternate meanings for words

Nothing. Aaaargh


tell me about it, i've been going nuts trying to figure this one out for the past week or so. my approach has been cryptographic, taking the first letter of each word. I've tried a Vigenere cipher, in which the size of the individual cypher "words" (here, four in length each) doesn't equate to the size of the plain text words, but instead depends on a given "key" I've tried a bunch of keys, the one i really hoped would work was the one word that matched in the two ypt texts from the silvia discourses... "falls" But nothing. I really think that part of the clue may come from decoding the ypt file from the carelessly sessions, but i've failed in that too. And I just don't have the time to keep this up, what with a wife who loves me and a school that expects me to perform on tests every couple of weeks. So, defeated, I post my attempts here and throw it out to y'all.

And I REALLY wanted to be the guy who discovers something. arg is right.

[Edit]added a second, stupid file that won't help anyone[/Edit]
ypt code.xls
Description  mainly my reference document
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ypt.doc
Description  from silvia.ypt, looking at words that were repeated... only those, all BUT those
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Tarot spread reveals important hidden person

xnbomb wrote:
Interestingly the source of an image is from a girl from Chicago who writes an online journal ... and she's taken down all of her stuff from 2002, including the image and any text accompanying it. Even the Wayback Machine doesn't have it Confused

Quoting myself ... hmm.

Even more interestingly, the author of that web journal and presumably the one who took that tarot picture (now but a shadow of its former self, a scaled down version in google's archive) is in fact a PM!

There's a real irony here, that we got that close to identifying a PM that early on. And a lesson for PMs of the future ... if it is or was ever on the web (istockphoto, betamaze, this picture) ... and there are enough players, given enough time, we will find it Very Happy .
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Re: Tarot spread reveals important hidden person

xnbomb wrote:
xnbomb wrote:
Interestingly the source of an image is from a from Chicago who writes an online journal ... and she's taken down all of her stuff from 2002, including the image and any text accompanying it. Even the Wayback Machine doesn't have it Confused

Quoting myself ... hmm.

Even more interestingly, the author of that web journal and presumably the one who took that tarot picture (now but a shadow of its former self, a scaled down version in google's archive) is in fact a PM!

There's a real irony here, that we got that close to identifying a PM that early on. And a lesson for PMs of the future ... if it is or was ever on the web (istockphoto, betamaze, this picture) ... and there are enough players, given enough time, we will find it Very Happy .


I don't know if it was up there before, but she has a link to Unfiction on her site... We could have figured it out!

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ooo, it's all twisty!

Twisted Evil

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bakntime
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krystyn wrote:
ooo, it's all twisty!

Twisted Evil


HA!!!

Very Happy

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