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troezen
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MrToasty wrote:
Sacagawea's Day8 log also says
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The echoes of calamity can be found here, as everywhere, hidden for long ages. That war will never be shaken from the galaxy.

Though it's all but forgotten, its memory will forever remain - an inescapable past.

Unless I'm mistaken, this would suggest that we are well beyond the events of the Halo series.


I'd assumed that they were off to find out more about the forerunners, which are only really found out about during the 3 halo games. So that would place this quite a while after the halo games as they'd need time to excavate and learn.

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meis wrote:
i bet this color and countdown thing is the next hint!

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intimation --->>S:Unk//When I'm sis with a pig nose, I do this :@)--->>Sys:Log//Crack repaired, leak closed. Preparing for hibernation.


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>>S:Unk//Roses are F00, violets are 00F, bet you can't count down all the way to two! :@)


i just wanted to mention that "sis" said that, not "sys".


The way I read it, I thought Sacagawea was hinting at being a "Sister" to Melissa/SP. S is showing a very child-like personality at the moment.

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anaerin wrote:
meis wrote:
i bet this color and countdown thing is the next hint!

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intimation --->>S:Unk//When I'm sis with a pig nose, I do this :@)--->>Sys:Log//Crack repaired, leak closed. Preparing for hibernation.


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>>S:Unk//Roses are F00, violets are 00F, bet you can't count down all the way to two! :@)


i just wanted to mention that "sis" said that, not "sys".


The way I read it, I thought Sacagawea was hinting at being a "Sister" to Melissa/SP. S is showing a very child-like personality at the moment.


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>>S:Unk//I feel... slow. I can't think. Sys? Sis? Help. The sentinels surround me now, crumbling but never falling. Are you there sys? 8:33 PM Jan 12th from web


S refers to Sys as Sis because the words are homophones. S is indeed acting childlike, but she isn't referring to Melissa. In the pig nose quote she's making fun of Sys/Sis for being such a big dumb meanie.

troezen wrote:
MrToasty wrote:
Sacagawea's Day8 log also says
Quote:
The echoes of calamity can be found here, as everywhere, hidden for long ages. That war will never be shaken from the galaxy.

Though it's all but forgotten, its memory will forever remain - an inescapable past.


Unless I'm mistaken, this would suggest that we are well beyond the events of the Halo series.



I'd assumed that they were off to find out more about the forerunners, which are only really found out about during the 3 halo games. So that would place this quite a while after the halo games as they'd need time to excavate and learn.


Humans do find and investigate evidence of the Forerunners prior to the trilogy. They do in Halo Wars, in fact, which takes place a couple decades before Halo. Very Happy
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Fenwicked wrote:
Humans do find and investigate evidence of the Forerunners prior to the trilogy. They do in Halo Wars, in fact, which takes place a couple decades before Halo. Very Happy


I stand corrected. But for some reason (with no real evidence what so ever) still see this happening a while after the games. But if someone wants to prove me wrong and explain whats actually going on then feel free.

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 		While it is true that humans have come across Forerunner structures prior to 2552, the events of Halo Wars show that the UNSC does not know significant details about the Forerunner or Flood at the end of that game.
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Halopedia - Halo Wars Plot

(While I generally dislike Halopedia, the game came out in the UK prior to its US release tomorrow and this is the best source of plot information obtainable right now.)

It is safe to assume that if anyone humans know of the Forerunner by 2552, it is ONI Section III. And let's be honest, they're not going to tell many people. Clearly the archaeological expedition on Coral had no idea what they had discovered before the Covenant glassed the planet. (See Conversations from the Universe booklet) That said, it seems likely from Ghosts of Onyx that ONI was aware of what lay beneath the surface of Onyx before they set up Camp Currahee. The chances are, however, that the majority of the UNSC has little understanding of the Forerunner prior to 2552. What information they do know would be data gathered from the Menachite Mountain Complex.

Now, the important part is this. Pandora states the following:

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They were still living when I woke up. But I know how it ends. One of two ways. With a bang, the suicide trigger pulled in desperation, or with the awful whimper of a diseased and dying man.
(Mission Log 01)

This shows that not only is there an awareness of the Forerunner, but there is distinct knowledge of how they died. The "suicide trigger" is a clear reference to the activation of the Halo Installations and the "diseased and dying man" seems to be a reference to the fate of those who fell to The Flood. This is information that would only have become public UNSC knowledge after the events on Installation 04 (first Halo game) once Cortana, the Chief, and Johnson returned to Earth.

And, as previously stated, the mention of what happened to Melissa is another clue showing us this takes place after 2552.

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 		From Shishka at the Bungie.net forums:

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No idea. Has nothing to do with us, anyway. Could be an ARG for someone else's product, or some fans attempting their own ARG.

The only thing I can say with certainty is that this is not related to Bungie or Bungie's projects, past, present or future.
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They're also using fonts similar to the ones we use for our game UI. They also mention (on the twitter) "Melissa," a name from I Love Bees, so I guess S is Spider.

My guess is that it's a fan ARG, trying to crib off of I Love Bee's success.
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The fact that they reference ILB AND SotA is exactly why I'd suggest it's a Fan made ARG trying to enjoy some attention but doing so in such an overt manner you'd have to be blind to see that they're trying too hard.

While we've known Shishka to mislead fans from time to time, he rarely goes this far out of his way to knock down fan beliefs unless there's something to what he's saying. So while this was quite the interesting start... it is probably an elaborate fan creation.

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enderxenocide0 wrote:
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They also mention (on the twitter) "Melissa," a name from I Love Bees, so I guess S is Spider.

While we've known Shishka to mislead fans from time to time, he rarely goes this far out of his way to knock down fan beliefs unless there's something to what he's saying. So while this was quite the interesting start... it is probably an elaborate fan creation.


The "S is Spider" bit amuses me. It's obvious he's not been following this one, as he'd know "S" is a necessary shorthand for the AI's name "Sacagawea".

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 		i seem to be quite skeptical of the people at bungie.net. i posted a topic on this about a month ago or so, and it was immediately debunked. i doubt they even looked that long at any of the relevant sites for the ARG, if it is one.

i don't think any of the officials from bungie or microsoft have even commented on it - unless this shishka is one of them(?)

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 		I wouldn't bother to post quotes from anyone on the regular Bungie.net forums if it didn't come from someone important... because god... I absolutely despise the main forums... however, Shishka is an employee at Bungie, hence the "us" he uses from time to time.

I mainly stick to a couple choice theory groups with longstanding reputation. If you can, avoid the main forums altogether (except to find bits of info from staff every now and again).

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 		well, given that shishka is, that still doesn't explain why major nelson (director of programming for xbox live at microsoft) is following intimation on twitter.

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Yamato wrote:
well, given that shishka is, that still doesn't explain why major nelson (director of programming for xbox live at microsoft) is following intimation on twitter.


Looking for copyright violations? Maybe he's an ARGer too, though. Smile
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Yamato wrote:
well, given that shishka is, that still doesn't explain why major nelson (director of programming for xbox live at microsoft) is following intimation on twitter.

He's not anymore. Intimation is following him. All that means is Intimation is trying to look legitimate by following important people.

I mean, it can still be legit... but I'm losing a good bit of faith.

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 		Does "faith" really matter? It still is a game after all, sanctioned or not, no?

Maybe, due to past experiences, I'm a little biased about non-sanctioned games, but still...
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 		Out of Hibernation again at 7pm EST.

I was too late for ILB, I'd like to get into this. I was directed to the website from Bnet, and I would say that Shiska's message is solid. He is the person who organizes matchmaking in halo online, i'm not sure if he does anything else but that role is pretty important.

I read through the entire public log and this forum, I'm understanding this and more about ILB now. I know a fair amount of the Halo universe and I'm interested in AI activity.

A note on the F00 and 00F. When using color codes, it is possible to abbreviate double letters to save space. I remember it from an old web design class. so they do mean red and blue.

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>>Sys:Log//A number of humans admit to having communicated with Forerunner AIs. This poses some potentially severe paradoxical conundrums.

This one is partially my fault Smile

Since I missed out on ILB and only discovered the story after-the-fact, I couldn't say I helped Melissa. So I figured it best to mention AdjutantReflex and Mendicant Bias(presumably... though it COULD have been Offensive Bias I imagine), the two Forerunner entities in IRIS, which I did participate in.

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