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(39clues) Madrigals
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parth2024
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 		Madrigals...
How could I have overlooked this?
I was re-reading The Sword Thief, when I noticed this, "In the fire of 1507, Gideon Cahill died. His children fled..." That got me thinking: what happened to Olivia? She did not die in the fire! But there is no mention of her!

Then, I formulated a theory based on 'what ifs'. Well, what if Olivia Cahill also fled the fire. She later married someone else, and had a daughter. Madeleine. That would make Madeleine a non-Cahill, as stated by McIntyre in Maze of Bones, but rather "an interested party in the Clues". Madeleine's descendants became the Madrigals! As to their objectives and goals, I have no idea.

What do you think?

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muje
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 		Re: Madrigals...
How could I have overlooked this?
parth2024 wrote:
I was re-reading The Sword Thief, when I noticed this, "In the fire of 1507, Gideon Cahill died. His children fled..." That got me thinking: what happened to Olivia? She did not die in the fire! But there is no mention of her!

Then, I formulated a theory based on 'what ifs'. Well, what if Olivia Cahill also fled the fire. She later married someone else, and had a daughter. Madeleine. That would make Madeleine a non-Cahill, as stated by McIntyre in Maze of Bones, but rather "an interested party in the Clues". Madeleine's descendants became the Madrigals! As to their objectives and goals, I have no idea.

What do you think?
Who's Olivia? When did McIntyre mention her?

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parth2024
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 		Re: Madrigals...
How could I have overlooked this?
muje wrote:
parth2024 wrote:
I was re-reading The Sword Thief, when I noticed this, "In the fire of 1507, Gideon Cahill died. His children fled..." That got me thinking: what happened to Olivia? She did not die in the fire! But there is no mention of her!

Then, I formulated a theory based on 'what ifs'. Well, what if Olivia Cahill also fled the fire. She later married someone else, and had a daughter. Madeleine. That would make Madeleine a non-Cahill, as stated by McIntyre in Maze of Bones, but rather "an interested party in the Clues". Madeleine's descendants became the Madrigals! As to their objectives and goals, I have no idea.

What do you think?
Who's Olivia? When did McIntyre mention her?


Olivia was Gideon's wife. McIntyre referred to the Madrigals as "not a branch of the Cahill family, but ...ah, an interested party in the Clues."

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 		Re: Madrigals...
How could I have overlooked this?
parth2024 wrote:
muje wrote:
parth2024 wrote:
I was re-reading The Sword Thief, when I noticed this, "In the fire of 1507, Gideon Cahill died. His children fled..." That got me thinking: what happened to Olivia? She did not die in the fire! But there is no mention of her!

Then, I formulated a theory based on 'what ifs'. Well, what if Olivia Cahill also fled the fire. She later married someone else, and had a daughter. Madeleine. That would make Madeleine a non-Cahill, as stated by McIntyre in Maze of Bones, but rather "an interested party in the Clues". Madeleine's descendants became the Madrigals! As to their objectives and goals, I have no idea.

What do you think?
Who's Olivia? When did McIntyre mention her?


Olivia was Gideon's wife. McIntyre referred to the Madrigals as "not a branch of the Cahill family, but ...ah, an interested party in the Clues."


Very clever theory....I like that. It also fits the whole thing about the Cahill name being used by people whose last name wouldn't technically be Cahill - like Amy, Dan, and Hope.
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 		Is Gideon first mentioned in Book 3?

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CahillUser wrote:
Is Gideon first mentioned in Book 3?

Yes.
"Gideon" was an answer to a music note puzzle on the inside cover of Book 2 (One False Note), but we didn't know what it meant until Book 3 (The Sword Thief) came out and we got the history of the Cahills, starting with Gideon and Olivia.
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 		 amy and dans real rank
okay i watched a trailer a while ago on the 39 clues and i think you guys should ook at it because im an ekat and i watched it and i saw that when it goes through the branches it shows tomas and ekat and next to the tomas it says dan and next to the ekat it says amy so im assuming those are there ranks if not they are madrigals becasue they're grandmother was grace mdelaine cahill and madelaine (this is my theory was also a cahill that got seperated by a cause from the branches and made her own Madelaine Cahill the beginner of the madrigal;s i think it was graces great grandmother who strated the madrigals you will all find out by thwe ned of the books.have fun

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cahill
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 		Mad Shocked use the search! i already posted that!!!!!!! Mad Shocked
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Mad Shocked use the search! i already posted that!!!!!!! Mad Shocked


It is good that you suggested using the Search It would be more polite to find your original post and include a link to it in your response. This is what we call a Trout and it's suppose to be served very nicely.
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isn't it weird that McIntrye is a Madrigal.. so grace should be one and come to think about it.. amy and dan have the qualities of each branch!!!
but maybe the warning "beware madrigals" are for evil madrigals who hate grace and want to make clues harder.. it is a great theory isn't it?

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muje
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 		Can I ask something? Where can you find In Too Deep in London?

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 		Where in London.
Your local Borders or Barnes & Noble should carry Book 6.

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muje
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 		Oh, that's where

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CarrotCahill2
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 		 Madrigal Meaning 2!
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I recently discovered that Madrigal is a town is Spain! Shocked
Defenition one is a medeival song that was popular in England.

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 		But what about the cards that come with the books, the ones which show the scene of the fire.
On one of the cards it shows a person in black watching the orignal cahills flee the scene, who could that be if Madeleine came later?

(I love constructive topics like this one Smile )

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