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[INFO] Mars Madison's Diary
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joshspazjosh
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Joined: 31 Jan 2007
Posts: 27
Location: boston

We could very well be receiving such a clue on Monday - Lipps Leroux's birthday is listed on Facebook as February 2.

I'm going to spend the weekend staring at this page until my eyes burn - hopefully, maybe, I will come up with something. I dunno.

In any case, I agree with one of the above posters - those are definitely all 2's. No Z's here.

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P.S. I disagree with the notion that this is a disappointing or somehow lacking ARG. The slower-than-desired trickle of new info is a little dispiriting, but I think we have to cut these guys some slack. They obviously wanted this to go viral, and the basis of some of the as-yet-unsolved "puzzles" (getting Mars and Lipps a sufficient number of Facebook friends, for example) were predicated on this assumption on the part of the PMs. I also strongly suspect (and I know a lot of people disagree with me on this) that this is just a huge group of friends and creative people in the NYC comedy/improv scene pitching in their talent (and maybe a few dollars) to do this for a lark. If they're just executing this in their spare time, I'm incredibly impressed with both the progress the ARG has made, as well as the quality of the ARG materials currently released (the book, the trailhead video, postcards, etc.)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:28 am
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Anon Antipodean
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I think it's 2 letter groups
as if I know anything

I just have an intuition. Maybe a worthless intuition, that it goes like this:

Code:
TF F1 BH B2 ff _5 GT GM 22 BF p' _F B5 FH TF fF pB FB H6 B5 f2 2p 2f HF p1 F6 fT BF TF sB GB 22 p2 f' _p FF Fs _' FF p' FF B_ FB 5F Fp pH BF s2 F2 1f GB 2B 52 p2 _6 sB


It just seems to me to create the right number of symbols for letters. So that's how I am going to stare at it and if I'm way off I will just laugh.

As for ARG/product or ARG/fun I like ARG/fun.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 5:50 am
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TheRyuujinMike
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Just throwing a random thought out there for the yet-to-be-decoded page.

If we assume that each character relates a letter, then I think it's safe to assume that 'F' in the code stands for the letter S. I draw this conclusion based solely on the fact that F's appear in triplicate at one point in the code. Assuming that spaces and punctuation are not represented within the code itself, 'S' should be the only letter that can show up 3 times in a row (a word that ends with a double S and then a word that starts with S), except for the rare exception.

So basically, if we can figure out under what reasoning the character F is the letter S, we can apply that to the rest of the letters in the code.

The underscores, apostrophes, possible fortes, etc etc make it more complicated, but lead me to believe that ASCII value might have something to do with it. Unfortunately, I couldn't come up with anything based on this line of thought, but I thought I'd put it out there and see if it sparks anything.

*EDIT - Now that I think about it, O's can appear in triplicate on more than one occasion as well. Oh well, it's something to think about further.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:27 am
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HMM
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Big T wrote:
After staring at page 8 all week this week, I just noticed that the last two characters of the cipher are "sB". If you reverse them, it's "Bs" or Blackstar.

I have to cut out for the weekend, so I'm kind of posting this in case someone else wants to take a stab at it.

Here's the code in reverse order. I have a slightly different interpretation of how to read the letters (ie. G vs. 6 and Z vs. 2) compared to what others have posted in the thread.

Bs
6_2p25
B2BGƒ1
2F2Sfb
HppFF
5BF_BFF
'pFF'
_sFFFp
_'ƒ2pzzB
GBsFTFB
TƒGF1p
FHƒzp2z
ƒ5BGHBF
BpFƒFT
HF5BF_
p'FBzz
MGTG5
_ƒƒ2B
.HB1FFT

(original: http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk31/Meropia/TIMM/marsbook-8.png)


OK, so if the letters are backwards, and some of the Zs are actually Zs, then that "FBzz" sequence in there looks an awful lot like "FeBrizzio's", minus some letters.

so maybe the code isn't a replacement cypher, but some kind of shorthand. especially if we suppose that Bs actually means "Blackstar"

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:07 am
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Beeswax
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TheRyuujinMike wrote:
The underscores, apostrophes, possible fortes, etc etc make it more complicated, but lead me to believe that ASCII value might have something to do with it.


Yes the upper case/lower case mix along with underscores is perhaps the only thing about the code that obviously stands out, and is most likely to do with character sets or keyboards.

I did wonder if there were some Qwerty keyboard transposition, but the use of the shift key doesn't make sense. As you say most likely and ASCII transposition - but what?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:47 am
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Kato Hearts
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Grid

When I put the letters in to a grid and connected them together I started to get some interesting patterns. I'll post them later if anyone wants them.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:27 pm
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DorianaGraye
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Re: I think it's 2 letter groups
as if I know anything

Anon Antipodean wrote:
I just have an intuition. Maybe a worthless intuition, that it goes like this:

Code:
TF F1 BH B2 ff _5 GT GM 22 BF p' _F B5 FH TF fF pB FB H6 B5 f2 2p 2f HF p1 F6 fT BF TF sB GB 22 p2 f' _p FF Fs _' FF p' FF B_ FB 5F Fp pH BF s2 F2 1f GB 2B 52 p2 _6 sB


It just seems to me to create the right number of symbols for letters. So that's how I am going to stare at it and if I'm way off I will just laugh.

As for ARG/product or ARG/fun I like ARG/fun.


Also able to appear in triplicate: E. As in, attendee eats. On rare occasions, an R could be possible as well (err ridiculously, for example).

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:39 pm
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niles
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Joined: 25 Nov 2008
Posts: 47
Location: Brookfield, WI

 

Big T wrote:
After staring at page 8 all week this week, I just noticed that the last two characters of the cipher are "sB". If you reverse them, it's "Bs" or Blackstar.

I have to cut out for the weekend, so I'm kind of posting this in case someone else wants to take a stab at it.

Here's the code in reverse order. I have a slightly different interpretation of how to read the letters (ie. G vs. 6 and Z vs. 2) compared to what others have posted in the thread.

Bs
6_2p25
B2BGƒ1
2F2Sfb
HppFF
5BF_BFF
'pFF'
_sFFFp
_'ƒ2pzzB
GBsFTFB
TƒGF1p
FHƒzp2z
ƒ5BGHBF
BpFƒFT
HF5BF_
p'FBzz
MGTG5
_ƒƒ2B
.HB1FFT

(original: http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk31/Meropia/TIMM/marsbook-8.png)


The
Quote:

Bs
6_2p25
jumps out at me. Any chance it's a sort of book code referring to page 26 of M:ARH?

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:13 pm
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FeloniousDrunk
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Joined: 05 Dec 2008
Posts: 37

Re: I think it's 2 letter groups
as if I know anything

DorianaGraye wrote:

Also able to appear in triplicate: E. As in, attendee eats. On rare occasions, an R could be possible as well (err ridiculously, for example).


Just to get over the possibilities:
Code:

user@farnsworth:/usr/share/dict$ egrep -o '^(.)\1' words|sort|uniq
aa
ee
ll
oo
user@farnsworth:/usr/share/dict$ egrep -o '(.)\1$' words |sort|uniq
aa
bb
cc
dd
ee
ff
gg
ii
ll
mm
nn
oo
pp
rr
ss
tt
uu
zz


(in case you were wondering, the word ending in 'uu' is 'muumuu'.) But regardless, by my count there's only 15 different symbols used in the ciphertext (I'm calling 6 and G the same thing and counting the period), so I don't think it's a direct substitution code.

If one splits 6/G or Z/2 to make sixteen symbols, then maps them to hex digits 0-F, then converts the result pairwise into ASCII, the double-symbols (like ff or FF or 22) would map to 0x11, 0x22 etc. The printable ones are 0x22 ("), 0x33 (3), 0x44 (D), 0x55(U), 0x66 (f), and 0x77(w). ASCII only goes up to 0x7F.

But this is all for naught, I suspect, since the pairings result in >8 different first digits, meaning that ASCII 0x0_ and 0x1_ characters would be indicated, and those are unprintable.


Edit:
Just to mention, 'jj' (as in 'hajj') doesn't seem to be in my dictionary, so there's one more (unlikely) word, as in "Are you going to the Hajj, Joe?". Also, the word "freeest" does occur in at least one book I've read. Also unlikely.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:54 pm
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a bill v2
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Joined: 01 Feb 2009
Posts: 27
Location: milwaukee

lurker adding an observation

niles wrote:

The
Quote:

Bs
6_2p25
jumps out at me. Any chance it's a sort of book code referring to page 26 of M:ARH?


Could Also have something to do with
Quote:
Entry 6 Page 2

since the 6 and 2 are separated by an underscore. I can't remember but how many pages are in the diary/journal all together? Could be "p25" is a page number or a paragraph number...
Probably doesn't help at all but I thought I'd throw in my two cents. I've been reading off and on for awhile and hope you guys can crack this one!!!

PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:35 am
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areyoudeadyet
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Joined: 16 Dec 2008
Posts: 22

Yeah, it reminds me of the old security method used for computer games- where you have to enter the Xth word of the Yth paragraph of page Z to start the game.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:43 pm
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niles
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Joined: 25 Nov 2008
Posts: 47
Location: Brookfield, WI

Re: lurker adding an observation

a bill v2 wrote:
niles wrote:

The
Quote:

Bs
6_2p25
jumps out at me. Any chance it's a sort of book code referring to page 26 of M:ARH?


Could Also have something to do with
Quote:
Entry 6 Page 2

since the 6 and 2 are separated by an underscore. I can't remember but how many pages are in the diary/journal all together? Could be "p25" is a page number or a paragraph number...
Probably doesn't help at all but I thought I'd throw in my two cents. I've been reading off and on for awhile and hope you guys can crack this one!!!


You know what..I think I'm slowly turning dyslexic. For some reason I was reading that as 5_2p26. Obviously that's a little different that p25.... whoops.

PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 6:03 pm
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Kato Hearts
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A Clue?

I think I found something useful. It works with the grid method I've been using.
Pattern Clue.jpg
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 6:39 pm
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SilentObjector
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Where's that from?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:15 am
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Kato Hearts
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Posts: 25

Source

It's page five rotated.

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