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[SPEC] Relativity to the Matrix
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chacko
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 		Is it easy to read through text? or like reading something the Architecht would write.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 12:24 am
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 		the obvious choice for any 'logical' mind would be to end it w/ the humans and machines agreeing on the symbiance. we both benefit from it. if i was neo, i wouldn'tve thought twice, you're ass's would be machine fodder and id be dissimilated code!

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chacko
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 		...but Neo is whipped...

(EDIT by AnthraX101)
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 12:45 am
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 		what a crock of !#$* ehh? the fate of humanity relies on LOVE....

all the people'll just wake up and start more world wars and Holocausts and topple kingdoms and rise anew and kill more... and kill more ... and kill more...

the horror.

the horror...

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 		Such is what you refer to as 'human'.
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Omnie
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ecwilder wrote:
what a crock of !#$* ehh? the fate of humanity relies on LOVE....

all the people'll just wake up and start more world wars and Holocausts and topple kingdoms and rise anew and kill more... and kill more ... and kill more...

the horror.

the horror...


Heh...I doubt you are being serious, but...exactly. That's why all of humanity won't wake up. They aren't ready. It's why they are in the Matrix in the first place...and why TMO will continue the story. That's the most logical way for the series to end. And it kind of is true...I'm taking a history class now that goes beyond what they print in history textbooks, and our species is just disgusting...with a very few redeeming moments every once in a while. The Fifth Element, anyone? I know the ending was pathetically cheesy, but I love that movie. Very Happy "Mooltee pass!"

And, for the record (is anyone keeping a record? I hate that phrase...why do I use it then?), I really don't believe that the movies will end with anything like Zion=a Matrix or Neo waking up at his computer, for multiple reasons, but if we start a MWAM (matrix within a matrix, for those who aren't hardcore Matrix fans;)) debate on this thread...well, let's just say I don't want to be responsible for starting it. Very Happy Heehee...

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Azathoth666
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 		Well, I just came accross a spoiler which looked like a bit of effort had gone into it... and while the ending seems satisfactory I'm not sure I like how it gets there... of course, it's only a spoiler and is likely not too reliable...

enter at your own risk!

be forewarned!

This link is a SPOILER! It may SPOIL the movie!

(civic duty dischaged, he proceeds to post the link...)

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
http://www.xzaust.com/index.php?page=matrix

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Azathoth666 wrote:
Well, I just came accross a spoiler which looked like a bit of effort had gone into it... and while the ending seems satisfactory I'm not sure I like how it gets there... of course, it's only a spoiler and is likely not too reliable...

enter at your own risk!

be forewarned!

This link is a SPOILER! It may SPOIL the movie!

(civic duty dischaged, he proceeds to post the link...)

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
http://www.xzaust.com/index.php?page=matrix

Just to let you know, this has been revealed as a fake... albeit, an amazingly detailed fake... but a fake none-the-less...

The author of it wrote a response talking about how he wrote down all of the questions left by the first two movies, and went about trying to solve them... and then posted it for all to see...

It's pretty good, and I wouldn't be surprised if it did follow closely in some aspects... but it isn't authentic.

(Sorry to rain on your cake.)

EDIT: On second thought, this may be new... but it has a lot of the older stuff in it as well...take it with a grain of salt...

-Monki
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Azathoth666
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 		Monki... I never thought I'd be happy to be trouted till now! Very Happy

I can't really say I'm a big fan of the way that one reaches it's conclusion. Mind you, it is one of the more thorough ones I've seen.

[EDIT] We all know the stupid movie is in the can already... they should just go ahead and release it and put us all out of our misery!

Dagnabbit! Twisted Evil Wink
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chacko wrote:
Well the idea of humans being batteries has been eliminated, it was something that Warner Bros. wanted the Wachowski to change.


I can believe the idea that humans being batteries was only included at the insistance of Warner Bros, but if that's the case why create a movie trailer promotional tie-in with POWERADE in regard to "Recharging" and "Maintaining high levels of BTUs"? There were, I think, 6 in all. IMHO I think the the battery idea was an original plot line and not a last minute inclusion. But hey... I'm just a bird. Very Happy

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Myxl Dove
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 		Didn't realize I wasn't logged in. That's me as "Guest" above. Question

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Omnie wrote:


Heh...I doubt you are being serious, but...exactly. That's why all of humanity won't wake up. They aren't ready. It's why they are in the Matrix in the first place...and why TMO will continue the story. That's the most logical way for the series to end. And it kind of is true...I'm taking a history class now that goes beyond what they print in history textbooks, and our species is just disgusting...with a very few redeeming moments every once in a while.

And, for the record (is anyone keeping a record? I hate that phrase...why do I use it then?), I really don't believe that the movies will end with anything like Zion=a Matrix or Neo waking up at his computer, for multiple reasons, but if we start a MWAM (matrix within a matrix, for those who aren't hardcore Matrix fans;)) debate on this thread...well, let's just say I don't want to be responsible for starting it. Very Happy Heehee...



indeed. Very Happy but which to respond to first:
I'm keeping the record. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy ! (ok im not, loved your comment tho).

to save humanity IS, IMHO (figured what it meant finally thru some logic)!, the reason the machines put us in the matrix. They dont need us, they have infinate lifespans, infinate technology, and can no doubt just skyrocket themselves into space, surround the sun w/ solar panels, and harness tons of energy. Not to mention a 'perfect' machine mind could no doubt make easy work of nuclear technology.

and to save humanity will be the reason we stay in the matrix.

oh, and a MWAM, .... i think the WB, and nearly every other moviewatcher in the world has saw the Wizard of Oz, and know what a complete cop out ending it is....
ive taken many fiction writing classes in college, my teachers always shouted that NEVER make your story a dream... it makes all the work the reader just did , all the time he spent, a complete waste.... it ruins the stories. i think the WB have a little intelligence and wont ruin their fanbase.

but then again, this is all.... IMHO. (let me just be sure, it means In My Humble Opinion, correct? Very Happy)

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 		ahhh im such a loser, my first 'forget to login'...
that was me w/ the long reply to omnie Very Happy

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chacko
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 		There was "Galvatrons" robot theory that said amongst the three primary directives of every machine is "Don't destroy humans". So that could be why?

I really hope they answer this in the Revolutions... not to mention, how the hell do they kill Smith?
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Myxl Dove
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chacko wrote:
...how the hell do they kill Smith?


Theory #1: If they kill Bane outside the Matrix, then Smith dies inside... and verce visa.

Theory #2: Smith can only die if the Matrix is destroyed (or rebooted?).

Theory #3: Neo has proven his ability to manipulate basic code to effect the program within the Matrix itself (stopping bullets, restarting Trinity's heart, etc.), and was able to get inside Smith before (as evidenced by the end of M1) ... perhaps he (Neo) simply overwrites Smith's program, since he (Smith) is considered by many to be a type of virus.

Just a thought (or 3)

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