unforum

[Star Spider]

P.S.

[xnbomb]

Re: P.S.

[Star Spider]

Trust

[SpaceBass]

Re: COOKIE!

[Storm and Shadow]

 Our Last Words...

[Mike Paduada]

New kid entering the sandbox

[natas]

tldr

[imbri]

Re: New kid entering the sandbox

[Rogi Ocnorb]

You Are Us

[chixor1]

Defensiveness breeds negativity, and despite the lack of attack (at least in this particular thread) all I see are people reacting emotionally and defensively when asked to put the "waxing philosophical" behind, and discuss the concern at hand.

I am hardly a veteran in Unfiction, and I will be the first to attest that my personality doesnt mix well with a few others around here, but I do not take that personally and allow it to affect my enjoyment of the genre.
However, from my experience as a new comer into an already established community, I have to respect that there are years of trial and error that have been played out within the confines of this forum.
The experience garnered from this has shaped and cemented the rules which are currently in place today.

Out of respect for the administrative staff it is my responsibility to adhere to these rules, whether I agree with them or not. If I choose to be part of this community then that is a decision that has to be made.

Archives, and search features, yes may be cumbersome to use, but we have all had to use them at some point. There have been times when we have had questions that we have been unable to find answers to, which then offers us the opportunity to ask these questions.
The administration, moderation team and veterans are not a pack of rabid wolves. They are very willing to assist those who are new to the community. To help them "get up to speed" either on the community as a whole, or on specific games and I have yet to see otherwise.

The TOS and already cumbersome responses to the questions laid out by your group have outlined and explained what we expect from you (the collective you) as a member of the forums.
Perhaps the time is now to ask, what is it that you expect from us that you feel you are not getting?

I see a lot of tail chasing, you ask questions, answers are provided yet you feel they are unsatisfactory.
Our expectations are clear, if you choose to continue to be a member of this community, they are expectations that allow this forum to remain somewhat civilized.
I feel however your expectations of this forum, may not match the communities intentions.

[Obtusitivity]

First!

[Star Spider]

Game Over

[thebruce]

Re: Game Over

[Delusional]

Re: New kid entering the sandbox

[Mike Paduada]

1. I am not here to break your rules; however, I am asking you to examine the processes by which rules are questioned and updated.

2. I believe debate and discussion are valuable processes, even of ideas that have been raised before. I understand that many people do not want to repeat arguments they have had or witnessed in the past. However, I think a new debate of old topics may still be a valuable experience for those who missed it the first (or second or third) time around. After it has been pointed out once that a debate has happened before (and the appropriate thread link shared), is there any harm in allowing the debate to continue in its own way with people who aren't tired of arguing or who never had the opportunity to argue in the first place? (That is, only one person needs to point out that an idea is old; after that, everyone else who doesn't want to participate simply shouldn't.) Even if the debate ends differently from debates of the past, it seems that there would still be many hurdles to clear before your rules could change.

3.1. As an alternative to purely philosophical debate, I suggest that an experiment could be an informative way of exploring empirically the pros and cons of a different set of rules. The experiment could be conducted on a small scale, with clear lines marking where the rules of the existing community end and the laboratory begins. For example, establish a clearly marked experimental forum with sub-forums catering to players and puppetmasters whose games explicitly want a relaxed set of rules; and add the provision that a game/CF/ARG can have a subforum in the original unfiction or the unfiction lab, but not both.

3.2. The benefit of having the laboratory here is that you have better experimental control. The experiment has access to most of the same people and experiences (i.e., those in the unfiction community who wish to participate), and the experiment just controls for a different set of rules. If the lab gets out of hand, you can always quarantine it and shut it down. If, on the other hand, the lab shows some interesting, positive results, the unfiction community would already be partially adapted to the new ideas the lab has fostered.

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Those are some of my ideas. I honestly don't know how long I will stick around here. My friends have left, and the positive, dynamic social interactions are what I really crave. If I see those opportunities here, through the games or in discussions, then you can expect to see me around for a while. In any case, I hope everybody is having fun and nobody is getting hurt. Thanks for reading.