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[Sylocat]

New update: A note from Mark saying that Inman's "ham-fisted maneuvers" got him locked out of the Park Avenue lab... and that he found a mention of the Metal Box...

And a diagram in front of the Jewelry Box talking about the Metal Box... "Knight's Journey," again...

[gb14]

[Cataclysmic V]

Thinkin that Oakes could be a Fontaine persona, as Sylocat posted earlier. They sound a lot alike. Also, we have confirmation that Lutwidge was indeed injected with Adam, but by Oakes. Lutwidge called Oakes the White Knight. If there is a connection between Oakes and Fontaine, that could be a clue to our White Knight Journey. Also, just something interesting, Oakes gives Lutwidge, to Lutwidge's dismay, a wrench. Kind of interesting that Atlas has Jack grab a wrench...

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[Sylocat]

[LC2009]

Ok, im farily bad at riddles and stuff, but when it comes to technology its right up my ally. First off has anyone considered that maybe the last set of inputs on the metal box were mis-translated?

More importantly the answer to the white knights question likely will unlock the last box, but heres another thought. From what i know about gyroscopic navigation i can say a few things. That box isnt making any whirring sounds, so the gryo inside is either really good or off. For older gyros, more over any gyros are initially spun up, they must first be calibrated to something (usually true north for most parts). Anderw Ryan or ludwidge or who ever built that box are smart though, and it will likely need a special calibration to find rapture.

Thats all ive got to say for the most part, the people of SITS may completely bypass the calibration idea and i might just be rambling, who knows?

~LC

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[gb14]

That "Seeker set to the sea" crack is really bugging me. ><

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[LC2009]

What i meant on the "last set of inputs" are the 5X5 grid, someone translated it to the alphabet, but i noticed that "Y and X" are squished into the same button, which seems kinda odd. X and Y also refer to the standard coordinate plane (the stupid graphs you did in algebra). Is it possible that those buttons could mean something other than the alphabet, maybe it enters some form of DMS (Degrees, Minutes, Seconds) which is sometimes used in navigation, it could also be a way to enter a bearing (N 45 E for example).

EDIT: Also, in ludwiges drawing of the box and the gyroscope, the box is positioned with the buttons facing upwards, its possible that in the boxes' current orientation the gimbals are at the end of their travel (The bearings that allow the gyroscope to rotate freely, and sensors that display the gyros position). Having the wrong orientation may be resulting in the "non operational" state of the puzzle (having each symbol glow briefly but fade out as if from lack of power.)

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Translation of the text in the photo

[Sylocat]

[LC2009]

Thanks Sylocat

I want exactly implying that the box was broken, just not in the "spin up" position. If you were to calibrate it in the position mark currently has it in and then tipped it upright the gyro would be way off the mark rendering it useless. It really seems to be in a kind of "Safe Mode" so that the calibration cant be screwed up, the buttons will likely do more when mark tips the box so the buttons are facing straight up (and we are looking down at it from the ceiling instead of from the side.)

Minus the box one thing still seems out-of-place with me, its totally unlike 2K to just leave that beautiful short-wave scanner unused. Back in Bioshock 1 Jack pretty much relied on that SW radio he found in the bathysphere.

So in the near future i expect someone or something to contact mark over his scanner equipment, and for the gyroscope to be started and the the metal box getting solved!

[Sylocat]

Hmm... [TIAG]It could be considered cheating on the part of 2K, if the solution all along was to tip the box so the grid faces the ceiling and they didn't program the Flash app with a way for us to do that from the beginning...[/TIAG]