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[Viral] "There's Something In The Sea" - Bioshock 2?
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EchoGarrote
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Alright, so it seems that my 'Meltzer was taken with puzzle box' theory is shot down. Maybe the B.S. just likes screwing with him? (Or it could just be part of the game and I'm supposed to go with it)

Anyway, usual 'Story So Far' synopsis continuing from my last one...

Known Sequential Events
- Puzzle Box Was Delivered
- Roscoe Inman, the government guy who works for ONI, tells him to discount it. Saying it might be a prank.
- Phil Isidore, UFO nut, tells Meltzer he doesn't have any linguistic leads but sends him the R. Quain story, which Meltzer writes off as just crazy talk.

Events with Unknown Timelines
- R. Quain shows up, ranting about his/her story and gets published in a sci-fi story magazine.
- R. Quain disappears.

Questions:
Has Meltzer been able to decode and open the puzzle box? (It seems likely, but he was asking Isidore for language help.)

Who is R. Quain and how is s/he related to Rapture? (Another escapee? Jack? Big Sister? The letter Isidore sent with the story mentioned a 'shared memory' bit, that was the reason given during Bioshock as to why people were seeing the 'ghosts.' The plasmids were causing shared memories to become visible. Gives a hint that R. Quain might have been a plasmid user, but that's a FAR stretch.)

How much does Roscoe Inman and the ONI know about Rapture? (If you go to the map, the upper left pile of papers, the ONI document with the word ABSTRACT at the top, blew SECRET crossed out. It has censored out parts that refer to Andrew Ryan's disappearance. It also says in Meltzer's notes that Inman was 'evasive.' Is Inman tying to keep Rapture secret from Meltzer?)

That's all I have so far. And as of Wednesday 6-3, no mail reply.

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kano_yume
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Sage: Given all of the other signs towards mailing in, I'd agree. I sent in a letter today, talking about Rapture, specifically mentioning Rapture and the ONI's interest in the case.

Echo: It's ambiguous at this point where Meltzer is with the box. Anything that might be about the letter might as well be about the box.

Roscoe certainly knows OF these things. He believes there's a connection, or a high possibility of one; an agent doesn't hand out classified documents like Halloween candy. Still, until there's proof that Meltzer is on the trail to Rapture, I doubt Roscoe will reveal much more than a few nudges and winks to us.

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Evertechy
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HAs anyone listened to the radio backwards....a little while in there is a male voice that sounds jarbled....but its just backwards, i cant figure it out....and i may be wrong but my mind screamed at me when i thought of it being in reverse.

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SageGrey
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kano_yume wrote:
Sage: Given all of the other signs towards mailing in, I'd agree. I sent in a letter today, talking about Rapture, specifically mentioning Rapture and the ONI's interest in the case.


it may just be an aesthetic choice, and the fact that it looks like an arrow is coincidental. it fits the iconic design of the time period for Rapture (40's and 50's art deco).

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kano_yume
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SageGrey wrote:
kano_yume wrote:
Sage: Given all of the other signs towards mailing in, I'd agree. I sent in a letter today, talking about Rapture, specifically mentioning Rapture and the ONI's interest in the case.


it may just be an aesthetic choice, and the fact that it looks like an arrow is coincidental. it fits the iconic design of the time period for Rapture (40's and 50's art deco).

but it's 1968...

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deathscent
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kano_yume wrote:
SageGrey wrote:
kano_yume wrote:
Sage: Given all of the other signs towards mailing in, I'd agree. I sent in a letter today, talking about Rapture, specifically mentioning Rapture and the ONI's interest in the case.


it may just be an aesthetic choice, and the fact that it looks like an arrow is coincidental. it fits the iconic design of the time period for Rapture (40's and 50's art deco).

but it's 1968...

houses CLEARLY can't be built before 1968.
also just caught up, seems like some interesting finds... wonder what's next...

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SageGrey
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kano_yume wrote:
but it's 1968...

deathscent wrote:
houses CLEARLY can't be built before 1968.


sorry. that just made me chuckle.

i think they did it so show the scope of the artwork of the game, not the current time period.

also, the art deco movement has lasted through every decade, and can still be seen in new artworks today.

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kano_yume
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On the other hand, the rest of the office doesn't really fit.

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SageGrey
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kano_yume wrote:
On the other hand, the rest of the office doesn't really fit.


having just moved in there, and refurbishing after his wife took everything, it wouldn't fit, so it works.

semantics, i know, but fun to toy with artwork ideas anyway.

while we are at it, let me ask this: where is Mark? he only shows up to check his mail, and then is gone.

or has he been gone for some time, and we just find stuff as we go thru this??

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Xfonic
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EchoGarrote wrote:


Events with Unknown Timelines
- R. Quain shows up, ranting about his/her story and gets published in a sci-fi story magazine.
- R. Quain disappears.
Who is R. Quain and how is s/he related to Rapture? (Another escapee? Jack? Big Sister? The letter Isidore sent with the story mentioned a 'shared memory' bit, that was the reason given during Bioshock as to why people were seeing the 'ghosts.' The plasmids were causing shared memories to become visible. Gives a hint that R. Quain might have been a plasmid user, but that's a FAR stretch.)


If you read the story he says that he arrived before the fall, "promise of man made paradise". but then he goes on to say "That promise has been betrayed"! As if he went back to find it in ruins. But The shared memory aspect is an interesting one. Jack saw them because of the plasmids. And several others noted it as well.

Now I am not sure but didn't a few of the recordings hint or say that some people had started seeing the ghosts even without taking plasmids? I will have to look it up or replay a few saved games maybe to be sure. But I could have sworn they did.

OH and there was mention of "channeling".. Wasn't the government during those few years (late 60's)doing experiments with remote viewing? Possible tie in that the government guy is involved with something like that and thats why he told our new hero here that it was all just made up and to not trust anything presented by the other guy?


All speculation on my part of course, gents and ladies =) but some food for thought. Also I have noticed there are new sound "bits" in the loop now.. more talking (I swear during one with beepings I heard Andrew Ryans voice very faint and just for a second or two). And also that other voice mentioned before, including myself. I don't think it's backwards.

It sounds like someone talked very slowly then sped the recording up to match normal speaking patterns... I would try messing with it. But I dont have the right software..

Anyway this is getting very interesting now indeed! =)

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einzelwolf
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Hi guys, I'm completely new to this forum but I found the first game so good that I wanted to know everything there is about it. It was looking for answers to somethinginthesea.com that I came to this place and I am very surprised by the level of knowledge you people have! Congratulations.

Regarding the theory of the Big Sister being Masha Lutz I found the following piece of evidence:

Remember that Masha Lutz was taken from her parents by Ryan's men stating that she would help save Rapture? Well she is the only little sister from the original game that has a name... and digging into Bioshock's wikia I found that there were some audio logs taken from the original game. The transcription of one of them is as follows:

Bridgette Tenenbaum - Gatherer's Flu: They're all dying, for months they're fine and then POOF! And from what? Influenza. *scoff* The god damned flu. The little things are virtually indestructible, a bullet - they heal. Fire - they heal. But if they catch the bug - boom, they're gone in days. Something about the implantation process. Only one of them remains, she must be resistant to this particular strain. This one little girl, one set of genes. Even if all the others die, it will be enough to save the program from extinction.

I thought it was really interesting. Not only states that the little sisters were dying of influenza. It says there was this "special" one resistant to the virus. It doesn't state it but could this be Masha? Did all the other little sisters die of influenza and now only she remains and is trying to get her sisters back?

It's a wild theory but somehow it makes sense to me.

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kano_yume
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One thing bothers me about the Quain story...
It's written from the POV of a normal human. The little sisters are represented as chipmunks, here. I see no reason why, if the main character was a little sister at one point, it would not be mentioned in some form in the first chapter or so.

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SageGrey
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kano_yume wrote:
One thing bothers me about the Quain story...
It's written from the POV of a normal human. The little sisters are represented as chipmunks, here. I see no reason why, if the main character was a little sister at one point, it would not be mentioned in some form in the first chapter or so.


i don't see the writer as the B.S., but perhaps one of the "brilliant minds" that Andrew Ryan wanted to bring to Rapture in the first place.

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EchoGarrote
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kano_yume wrote:
One thing bothers me about the Quain story...
It's written from the POV of a normal human. The little sisters are represented as chipmunks, here. I see no reason why, if the main character was a little sister at one point, it would not be mentioned in some form in the first chapter or so.


I think it states in Isidore's letter that the guy who published the magazine changed details of Quain's story around.

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Was giving the radio another listen today. I heard pretty distinctly a little girls' voice saying "Help me." and another much more garbled male voice giving what sounded like tower calls and what may have sounded like coordinates for flight.

ETA- And now a church bell? Maybe diving ping.

And now clicking...rhythmic clicking. 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 like a metronome.

News programs with a high pitch ringing...what sounds like a rotor...ooh music...

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