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Limer · Boot Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Posts: 19

"Your masters tempel has fallen" is he reffering to his apartment?

Edit:
His apartment was in lower manhattan. South West of lower manhattan is the hudson and the statue of liberty. Lady liberty might be the red queen?

If so her crown with its 7 rays could be the 7 folded key?

Edit: The looking glass may be reffering to the windows in the crown etc.

Edit: The statue of liberty was built in 1886, so the patina might not have been as green in 1958, the cuppers red color might still have been there hence the red queen.

**Posted:** Fri Jul 10, 2009 7:49 pm

Camdog · Greenhorn Joined: 10 Jul 2009 Posts: 6

And to run the red queen's race means going nowhere so her crown jewels are with her. Maybe there is a super secret entrance to Rapture or at least a Bathysphere bay INSIDE the statue of liberty?

**Posted:** Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:58 pm

pgreenhow · Guest

Recording from box

**Posted:** Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:41 am

SageGrey · Veteran Joined: 01 Jun 2009 Posts: 118

here's some info on some of the "red Queen" and "her race" mentioned in the message in the box. It's an obvious allegory to Through the Looking Glass, the sequel book to Alice in Wonderland, also to an Issac Asimov novel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Queen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Queen%27s_race

makes things THAT more interesting...

**Posted:** Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:54 pm

Mr. K · Guest

The word most of you have failed to make out is "Muhheakantuck." It is the Native American word for the Hudson River, New York.

**Posted:** Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:13 am

D4n123 · Guest

Can i ask how do you know what the symbols mean?

**Posted:** Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:17 pm

Aluminus · Veteran Joined: 30 May 2009 Posts: 71

**Posted:** Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:00 pm

rkpetersen · Greenhorn Joined: 12 Jul 2009 Posts: 4

Hi all. I've been following somethinginthesea for awhile but haven't yet posted.

**Posted:** Sun Jul 12, 2009 3:02 pm

D4n123 · Guest

**Posted:** Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:36 pm

Suihanki · Guest

The word magus also means someone who can read the stars. I think that the solution to the riddle that Lutwidge left had to do with a constellation visible from the State of Liberty's observation windows. This would explain the "follow the twinkling of gems" riddle as well as "they wait beyond the looking glass"

Additionally the earlier clue of the "3 fold key with the 7 fold lock" may point to a constellation like Orion, the belt has three stars in it, while the complete constellation has seven in total.

**Posted:** Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:02 am

Robbs · Boot Joined: 27 Jun 2009 Posts: 16

**Posted:** Mon Jul 13, 2009 8:37 am

Dread Cthulhu · Veteran Joined: 13 Jul 2009 Posts: 76

Getting into Rapture

**Posted:** Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:15 am

FSURobbie · Guest

Just going over the new stuff that popped out over the weekend since I was out of town and I noticed something no one mentioned. Not sure if it's relevant to anything, but on the recording from Lutwidge there is a notation that says:

**Posted:** Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:37 am

E.Y.E. Spy

**Posted:** Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:51 am

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kano_yume · Boot Joined: 10 Dec 2007 Posts: 46

New message by Celeste Roget. She seems to blame the deaths of her fellow climbers on Letwidge.

**Posted:** Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:08 pm