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[Trailhead] Samuel Lane
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icerimp
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I asked Robert if had 02 ever showed any schizophrenic behavior in the past, and he said no. So either it's not the case, or it's a new development and Robert isn't aware of it.

Edit: Or he's hiding it.
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Caseys_Mom
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Hi everyone, hope no one minds if I try to jump in. It seems kinda like he's given us some clues that we're just able to "get" yet..
icerimp wrote:
New reply to me asking him what his plan is.

Quote:

book 38, codes
'rearrange the letters'
the writer was encoding the word
platano
book 49, common words in other languages
banana


And then after:

Quote:

book 8675309
entry 1
jenny
entry 2
samantha
entry 3
rabbit
entry 4
rachel
entry 5
rachel
entry 6
rachel
entry 7
wolf
entry 8
daniel
entry 9
angela

it is not in the proper order, i did not write this
i think


One thing I did discover:
banana in arabic means "to follow"...
don't know about the bolded letters, I wouldn't know any foreign word to try to anagram them into.
But I agree with another poster with the biblical references. It's just that it may be from a different source. Figure I'll try that angle and see what I can find. Seems to me like the whole statement about existing is something we should be able to find. What religions match with those thoughts?

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RikaLeigh
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Robert went to look at book 8765309 himself today.

Quote:
There was nothing in the goddamn book at all. Nothing but the words 'Rachel. Wilson. Lane'
My trust in you has severely dropped.


I absolutely cannot wrap my brain around this book. I've tried everything I can think of, and I swear it's staring me right in the face.

My thoughts currently are taking 6 (Rachel), 7 (wolf), and 8 (Daniel) and switching them around to match the 867 that the book number begins with, and mixing in the words Robert found today, so...

Daniel Rachel wolf
Rachel Wilson Lane

...and then I go nowhere. And I have no clue how to work in the 2 different sets of numbers that look like phone numbers.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 5:28 pm
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icerimp
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Yeah, this is making my head spin as well. I half think that...

Quote:
book 38, codes
'rearrange the letters'
the writer was encoding the word
platano
book 49, common words in other languages
banana


...has something to do with it as well, but I'm at a loss as to what.
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witsEkr
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Palindrome

I've been staring at this list and thinking about it since the first one appeared...

Quote:
entry 1
jenny
DNE
entry 2
samantha
DNE
entry 3
rabbit
DNE
entry 4
rachel
DNE
entry 5
rachel
DNE
entry 6
rachel
4,800,000,000
entry 7
wolf
6,950,000
entry 8
daniel
9433
entry 9
angela
DNE


There's something oddly palindromic about it. I don't know if this will help anyone, but if you start in the center (entry 5) There is a "rachel", then working outward these pairs: rachel/rachel, rabbit/wolf, samantha/daniel, jenny/angela. I don't know how the numbers fit in yet, but maybe the pairings have something to do with experimental test subjects?

If Leyton's theory about Sam and Rachel being the same person is correct, maybe these pairs represent other combinations of chromosomes or DNA. It's the rabbit/wolf pair that really leads me to this (maybe a preliminary experiment on animals?) Of course, it may be way off too!

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blessedSophia
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jki6783 wrote:
@prut - Yeah, I see that now. With all this talk of orchids, green roses, & yellow roses I got a lil confused. It makes much more sense now, thanx! Smile Still having trouble w/, "creating a child w/ both reproductive systems" why? - I don't have a kloo...


Smith did mention green roses "of both types". In literary slang, a green rose is a symbol of individual creation. It's a reference to Joyce's Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man, in which the main character muses about creating a green rose all his own:

Quote:
White roses and red roses: those were beautiful colours to think of. And the cards for first place and second place and third place were beautiful colours too: pink and cream and lavender. Lavender and cream and pink roses were beautiful to think of. Perhaps a wild rose might be like those colours and he remembered the song about the wild rose blossoms on the little green place. But you could not have a green rose. But perhaps somewhere in the world you could.


Another angle: in English folklore, a green rose is an omen of death in the family.

Don't know that either of these is what he's referring to (other than the bribe factor, of course).

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RikaLeigh
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Quote:
Me-- Was your initial experiment with Sam successful at all? Is he a hermaphrodite on top of his ability to see the future?

Robert-- No.
Not at all.


Unless Rachel is all in his head, a second personality (which I'm leaning away from at this point) Sam and Rachel are two different entities.

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Taladan
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I think this may have been mentioned before, but if you take the numbers in order, they're 4806959433

480-695-9433

480 is an AZ area code.

Anyone want to try giving it a call?

Tal

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Another exchange with Robert Smith from last night (sorry I wasn't able to post until now). I'm not sure if I'm even asking the right questions... Hope this can be helpful -

Me: Is Lane in Southern Cali?

R.S.: Yes.

Me: So, is Samuel still at the lab?
(He didn't answer for some time...)

Me: So, is that a no then?

R.S.: That's a no. But by the 7th, we should be able to recreate the brain mutations Samuel was born with.

Me: 1.Why the 7th - why wait? 2.Will Samuel be in harms way on that date?

R.S.: 1.We've located the gene that was altered in his father's DNA; all that is left is to figure out where it is located on any human chromosome without altering something unimportanat, like eye color - It takes time to get volunteers. 2.Not at all!

Me: Do you have any "volunteers" now?

R.S.: All of our employees are paid associates.

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RikaLeigh
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jki6783 wrote:
R.S.: That's a no. But by the 7th, we should be able to recreate the brain mutations Samuel was born with.


Very interesting, Rachel is scheduled to die on the 7th.

As for this damn book. What I don't get (well, one of the many things I don't get right now) is why the book changed, a few times. Initially it was just the 9 entries. Then it was the 9 entries with 3 numbers (phone number looking thing). Then it was the 9 entries with 3 other numbers. Then when Robert went to get it it was nothing but the words "Rachel Wilson Lane".

I still feel like it's a completely obvious solution right in front of my face but I have written and rewritten words and numbers in all imaginable order to no avail.

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Anyone heard from either S.L or R.S since Sunday?
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Prizefighter-Inferno
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Been lurking here a couple of days, thought I'd give you a hand as you seem to be struggling Wink

Firstly;

Quote:
Sam:
planes
tranes
autom
obiles
never
always
lie


Build the word going from top to bottom, then bottom to top etc...
The word is Platano, which is Banana, the solution given here;

Quote:
book 38, codes
'rearrange the letters'
the writer was encoding the word
platano
book 49, common words in other languages
banana


I believe Book 8675309 can be solved in much the same way, though I think there are entries missing as there are not enough vowels to make a sensible word. The three extra "names" given as being the only entries in the book, fit in as missing entries, though the order is incorrect and I believe RikaLeigh was on the right track when they mention rearranging the names in the order of the book title, or at least part of it as we don't currently know what entry 0 could be. I'm ignoring the numbers for the moment as I believe once the word is decoded the meaning of these will come out in the wash. That's it for now, more later.

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I haven't been contacted by either Sam or Robert recently, but I haven't contacted them either as I'd like to solve this puzzle first.

I'm focusing on the words as well, rather than the numbers, but nothing conclusive is working out yet. Some of my thoughts are:
-Rachel Wolf Daniel and Rachel Wilson Lane almost anagram. Maybe we need to do something with the letters that don't match up?
-Maybe the hint about dreaming of a phone was not refering to a number, but has something to do with phone key translating?

All in all, I am still beating my head against the wall over this one. The more I stare at it the more I swear I can see a simple solution, but as soon as I try to work it out one letter or another doesn't fit in. I just hope the letters don't create a foreign word like platano, or I'm hopeless.

On a side note, Sam said on March 20th--
Quote:
in 3 days
by a freight train?
at a barn?

-- 3 days would have worked out to be yesterday, so I'm guessing he should have met (or remet) Rachel then?

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Leyton Stone
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Yeah I emailed him before...

Quote:
March 24th today.

You met Rachel yesterday, right?

What is going on now, Sam...?

-L.D.S.


Funnily enough when I sent R.S the email on Saturday saying:
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To whomever this may concern,

I'm sorry to learn that I have interrupted an experiment which you seem to be conducting. However I am not partial to flowers, no matter the color of their backs and am too interested to learn about the results.

I propose that I possibly get involved in helping you with this somehow; I mean considering Mr. Lane seems to be talking to me quite considerably as of late,

-L.D.S.


I've not had a reply back since.
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I had a brief conversation this afternoon with Sam. I think @Prizefighter-Inferno and @RikaReigh are right on track. We should decipher the code we have so far, before we try to get more information from Sam and Robert. When I asked him if he remembered anything new, he said:
Quote:
sam: life is circular
remember what happened
forget it
remember again
nothing is ever new


So, I think we should definitely figure out what he's been trying to say to us the last few days with books and numbers and names etc.

Quote:
me: you're very wise sam
is that why robert chose you?

sam: who

me: robert smith

sam: dne

me: DNE again. DNE has signed some pages of the books you have right?

sam: no
i write
nobody but me touches books

me: those books are very important to you, right?
are they your journals?

sam: and memory

me: these books have entries..
they have numbers
and some names associated with them
what can we make of these?
Did Rachel see these books?

sam: numbers, names, all for organizing
she will see some


Who/what is DNE? What can we make out of the books?[/quote]

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