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ironnikki
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 		You make a good point, Wulf. The PMs are aware of our locations (at least, as far as I know). I'm sure they wouldn't put something somewhere far away from all of us. Besides, Port and Rage are pretty close to where we think the meet is anyway, so it would make sense to send one of them (or both) to meet Randall.

I was a little skeptical about the whole making one of us to go to Cali thing (what if none of us could have gone?), but now that you mention the Ernie thing, my doubts have gotten stronger.
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3v1L Schwinn
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 		In the 2 drops that we have already had in this game, the usb in the crapper and the one in the cemetery too pick the symbol, (3 if you want to count the flyer) we have had someone in the area. What if the PM does want someone to actually meet?
I really dont think he/they would expect us to put out a ton of cash for plane tickets (round trip), hotel stay, rental car, plus the extra necessities like food drink, gas for said rental car. So unless one of the lurkers that lives in the general area steps forward, it looks like Port and Rage would have to be our best choice.
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Wulf74
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3v1L Schwinn wrote:
In the 2 drops that we have already had in this game, the usb in the crapper and the one in the cemetery too pick the symbol, (3 if you want to count the flyer) we have had someone in the area. What if the PM does want someone to actually meet?
I really dont think he/they would expect us to put out a ton of cash for plane tickets (round trip), hotel stay, rental car, plus the extra necessities like food drink, gas for said rental car. So unless one of the lurkers that lives in the general area steps forward, it looks like Port and Rage would have to be our best choice.


Agreed
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classical
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 		I am so confused right now.
But uh, despite that, I don't think getting Rage or Port to meet with Randall is gonna work.

r_snodgrassSPLATrocketmail.com wrote:
None of us are anywhere near the area?---this confused me for a second. You still think you are playing a game. O.K. then. I hope this doesn't rip you from your mental moorings but your "friends in the area" are fictional. Made up---make believe---you'd have to take the little trolley to get to where they live. Do you get it? I realize that I haven't helped much to dispel that---I'm sorry.

I am here to help you with a single specific task---and to be clear with you I am paid whether you succeed or not. Don't forget---time moves on even when you are in bed dreaming.

Cheers.


("Friends in the area" was in reference to my previous email; I used that to refer to Rage and Port.)

So at this point, we either get some third party to help us or... we just don't show up. The latter of which would make this a huge fucking waste, in my opinion.
Unless, pfft, we get Bricker to help out? I guess he's more "real" than Rage or Port is, though only to a point.
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Wulf74
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classical wrote:

("Friends in the area" was in reference to my previous email; I used that to refer to Rage and Port.)

So at this point, we either get some third party to help us or... we just don't show up. The latter of which would make this a huge fucking waste, in my opinion.
Unless, pfft, we get Bricker to help out? I guess he's more "real" than Rage or Port is, though only to a point.


Wow, well this guy is pretty straightforward if nothing else. I think Bricker is the obvious choice right now - and the correct one. However, if I'm unable to get out there, I got a PM from another unFictionist offering to get to the meeting if it's close enough, otherwise knows people that would be able to make it - so we have that going for us.

So I guess until we get a date/time/confirmed spot we wait and see.
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 		Rrrr. Bit my tongue (fingers?) and kept myself from sending back a pissy reply to our buddy Randall. I reminded him that there are less-than-fictional friends in the area, so here's hoping he doesn't totally shoot Bricker down.

'Cause if he does, the PM's not just making this difficult--he's making this ridiculous.
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Wulf74
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r_snodgrassSPLATrocketmail.com wrote:
None of us are anywhere near the area?---this confused me for a second. You still think you are playing a game. O.K. then. I hope this doesn't rip you from your mental moorings but your "friends in the area" are fictional. Made up---make believe---you'd have to take the little trolley to get to where they live. Do you get it? I realize that I haven't helped much to dispel that---I'm sorry.

I am here to help you with a single specific task---and to be clear with you I am paid whether you succeed or not. Don't forget---time moves on even when you are in bed dreaming.

Cheers.


As I re-read thru this again, it makes even less sense to me. He's paid to help us accomplish one specific task, break Jenny out of the Brightman Institute, right?
1) Who is paying him? Holly (Ernies daughter?)
2) Jenny and the Brightman are fictional - and uhh - if you wanna throw back the curtain, so is he. Unless of course we're back to speculating on the possibility that we're dealing with multiple realities converging....?

Call good old Randy on those points. Ask for specifics:
a) whats he being paid for, and why does it require a face-to-face
b) who is paying him?

Its not his choice as to whom we send to meet with him - fictional or not. For someone being paid to complete a very specific task - what IRL would be very illegal - asks a lot of questions and makes a lot of demands. If it were me in his shoes, I'm not gonna want to meet anyone face to face. Plausible deniability remember?

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ironnikki
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r_snodgrassSPLATrocketmail.com wrote:
None of us are anywhere near the area?---this confused me for a second. You still think you are playing a game. O.K. then. I hope this doesn't rip you from your mental moorings but your "friends in the area" are fictional. Made up---make believe---you'd have to take the little trolley to get to where they live. Do you get it? I realize that I haven't helped much to dispel that---I'm sorry.

I am here to help you with a single specific task---and to be clear with you I am paid whether you succeed or not. Don't forget---time moves on even when you are in bed dreaming.

Cheers.


Well, to say the least, he certainly takes TINAG to another level, haha.

[OOG]
Our PMs are certainly not stupid. Everything that I read through that you guys went through seemed carefully planned out, though some wrenches were thrown into the gears. Somehow, the PMs sorted through all of that mess and emerged with a (mostly) cohesive story. We know that they check up on us here, so they know that they'd be hard pressed to get us out to Cali. I can't imagine that there's any solution here other than getting Bricker to meet with him. But that'll probably be easier said than done.
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Wulf74 wrote:
Unless of course we're back to speculating on the possibility that we're dealing with multiple realities converging....?


Since the beginning of this game, bounds have been blurred: those between IG and OOG, those separating who was on whose side, and those separating this reality from the other. We can be certain that the other reality (that of Port and Rage) is not a complete alternate reality (maybe this isn't an ARG after all... haha.) There are just too many parallels. I'm wondering if Jenny will sort all of this out... Maybe if/when we rescue her, our two realities will snap back to where they're supposed to be? Or maybe they'll merge completely? Or perhaps, we're just looking at this completely the wrong way.

In any case, playing in (and therefore existing in) multiple realities introduce certain paradoxes that sometimes cannot be avoided. This game requires us to exist in more than one reality at a time, which leads to confusion as to what is "real" and what is "the game."

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Haha, that was probably way more than you asked for. Just helps me to get it down where I can come back and reread it after the fact to see how far away I was from the truth.

tl;dr: Randall and Bricker exist in the same reality and state, so they should meet instead of making Wulf make a costly trip to Cali.
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3v1L Schwinn
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 		How come we don't have our own little forum space. 95 fricking pages and we are still in News & Rumors? I'm not sure what the procedure
is or if there is some special guidline that has not yet been met? Does the game still have the bad stigma? Is that why? Are we playing Uf's dirty little secret?
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Wulf74
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3v1L Schwinn wrote:
How come we don't have our own little forum space. 95 fricking pages and we are still in News & Rumors? I'm not sure what the procedure
is or if there is some special guidline that has not yet been met? Does the game still have the bad stigma? Is that why? Are we playing Uf's dirty little secret?


Hahah - dunno, but good question. I know that shortly before the fiasco with this being pulled off the forums, that it was being considered to be moved over to the CF section. But I suppose it's possible due to the bad blood, that it won't happen.
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 		Usually it's the players that ping an admin in the IRC channel or via PM here on the forums to advocate for a move. Smile

That's always been the way at these forums, just so you know: there is no vast conspiracy or strident judgement call about these things.
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 		No word from Randall yet. But I guess Port's not dead!
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klokworkalex: Just got on a computer for the first time in a looong time. I hope all is well with you. I haven't forgotten the chat I owe you. Soon.

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Wulf74
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krystyn wrote:
Usually it's the players that ping an admin in the IRC channel or via PM here on the forums to advocate for a move. Smile

That's always been the way at these forums, just so you know: there is no vast conspiracy or strident judgement call about these things.

Heheh - duly noted and thanks krystyn.

Will start pinging away Smile
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 		Okay, so I had sent a note to Bricker after Wulf's last email from him, whenever that was, basically telling him to not give in, we were there for him, etc. etc. etc.

And just now I got a reply:
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You have no idea how much this means to me. I was at the end of my rope and was checking my e-mail this afternoon (curious to see how much trouble I was in for blowing off a writing project that was supposed to have been done three months ago) when I found an e-mail from you and one from Justin. It made me mad at how easily I had given up, you know? But it's hard to fight this. It's like fighting smoke.

Things have been really weird.

My daughter was disgnosed with something called JIA which stands for juvenile ideopathic arthritis. I ran across a letter from her doctor explaining it but it was dated back in December of last year. I took it to my wife and said "why didn't I know about this?" and "could this be why we've had her in the ER so much lately?" and she looked at me like I was crazy. She told me that we hadn't had our daughter in the emergency room since back in December. I argued that we just had her in there two days ago and I described the entire event to her including who the ER doctor was and she was incredulous. She told me that I was hallucinating because I was describing an ER visit from the day after Christmas and that I've known about my daughter's condition for 8 months. She was a healthy, active kid and might end up in a wheelchair for the rest of her life. I think someone got to my wife, Courtney. I know what I know and I'm 100% positive that this hasn't been going on for 8 months! Maybe someone got to me and I'm all screwed up. You and I met in Portland, right? You have blue eyes. And Justin is tall and thin and likes to smoke. Did I make you up, too?

My youngest daughter came into my bedroom late last night and I woke up because I could feel her staring at me. I asked her what she wanted and she didn't say anything for a long time and then she leaned over and whispered in my ear, "I was in my bed and then my eyes started feeling funny and then I could see the world ending." Then she just turned and went back to bed. This morning she remembered it, but thought the whole thing was just kind of odd rather than scary.

I'm afraid something has happened to me, I feel adrift in an ocean unfamiliar.

I hope you are real, because heaven help you if you are a figment of my imagination. That never seems to go well for anyone.

--Brian


I'd say something like, 'okay, this is weird' now, but I'd just be repeating myself!
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 		I also got a reply from Bricker today, and I'll say it. This is getting weird. The reason this really stuck out in my mind, was way back towards the beginning, in a chat with Bricker (I'm starting to suspect that it was the fake Bricker) I asked why he couldn't just write the ending, to come out the way we needed, and I was told that wasn't possible. Anyway-
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Brother,

The Feds are afraid of me? I'm not sure how that works! They're like a faceless crowd hurling insults at me...I can't tell who to respond to.

Randall Snodgrass? I didn't write him. I don't think anyway.

But Ron told me that I wrote everyone, including you, and that I am responsible for all of the bad that happens in the world because I'm not writing it away. Everything is my fault and people are full of pain and lonliness and are disconnected from those around them and I don't know how to write a solution. I don't how to fix what I've done.

I keep seeing mountains and I think I'm supposed to pack up and go away to the mountains. Leave everything behind. Is that what I should do? I'm asking you which is pretty much asking me, isn't it.

Take care of yourself my friend.


i'm replying to him now.
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