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 		Man, this game really grew pretty fast. Sorry I haven't been around for a little while; just moved into my new apartment on Sunday, and I'm starting my first class of the semester in 10 mins. Ugh.

Anyway, I'll try to get caught up and see if I can't contribute something later. As for Junko, I played the very beginning of that game, and I feel pretty darn certain that it has nothing to do with this. Also, I would strongly advise none of you to jump into that game, as it seems to have degenerated into some kind of 4chan monstrosity. But, to each his own, I suppose.
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ASimulacraOfAlex wrote:

EDIT: Also, CIAbrams has always struck me as being suspiciously OOG.


classical wrote:


edit;; wtffffff
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CIAbrams: HAD YA GOING FOR A MINUTE THOUGH!! JUNKOJUNKOJUNKOJUNKO!!!!!!!!!!!

And now the account is gone.

... so can someone explain to me what the FUCK is going on?? What was the goddamn purpose of that, other than to waste my fucking time?


I knew it.
[META] I've been lurking the Junko meta section for a while, and its really gotten out of hand. Annoying. From now on, we definitely need to make absolutely sure any communications we get are from sources we know are legitimate. [/META]

BUT, even though CIAbrams was a GJ, it did make me think. Holly is very valuable to someone, shes a very dangerous and resourceful woman. She is going to be more valuable to us alive then dead, either as a bargaining tool, or as a source of information. Im going to contact rage and see how long he feels he could safely hold on to her.

EDIT: Also, good job @Ryutso with the fake returned email...I wonder who doesn't want us to contact Jenny?

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 		So rage replied...apparently we don't need to worry about the bird fleeing the coop.
SimulacraAlex wrote:

@ArlenRage How long do you feel you can safely keep holly captive? She seems like she might be more use to us that way. Please advise.


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ArlenRage I can keep her alive for as long - or as short - as I want. What are you thinking?


I think we should put some feelers out to see how valuable holly really is, and see what leverage we might be able to get.

EDIT:
classical wrote:
... so while I regain my composition ...

Brian says hi.
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Courtney,

This is really going too far. My wife said that Ron was asking...

--Brian


Wait, I missed something. who is Ron again?

EDIT 2: Nevermind, I figured it out, I did some reading at the "other" forum. What email contacts do we have with the CIA/NSA? Direct email for ron?

EDIT 3: Also, what about that T Bettelheim character 3v1 got an email from...is that part of the CIAbrams gamejack or was that actually IG? Do we have a consensus?

and finally,
EDIT 4: @ryutso, I asked rage to try and get some answers to those questions you proposed, and told him that he didnt need to be especially gentle, as long as he kept her alive. He replied:
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ArlenRage: I'll get to work on this, my friend. It'll take a little time - she's not the type to crack just due to second-hand smoke!


So I vote we wait till we get some answers before we proceed...anyone?

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 		Well, it looks like we don't really have anything we can do, at least not for now. We may as well try to pump Holly for information until we can formulate our next move. So, in other words, I agree with Ryutso.

Also, Rage tells us that nobody has Bricker, but if that's the case, why did Ron show up at his house? Have we heard from him since then?
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ASimulacraOfAlex wrote:
So rage replied...apparently we don't need to worry about the bird fleeing the coop.
SimulacraAlex wrote:

@ArlenRage How long do you feel you can safely keep holly captive? She seems like she might be more use to us that way. Please advise.


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ArlenRage I can keep her alive for as long - or as short - as I want. What are you thinking?


I think we should put some feelers out to see how valuable holly really is, and see what leverage we might be able to get.


This. Let's put out some hints and see what they're willing to give in return for Holly. If she's that valuable then we may be able to trade for a guided tour of the Brightman.

ASimulacraOfAlex wrote:
EDIT 2: Nevermind, I figured it out, I did some reading at the "other" forum. What email contacts do we have with the CIA/NSA? Direct email for ron?

EDIT 3: Also, what about that T Bettelheim character 3v1 got an email from...is that part of the CIAbrams gamejack or was that actually IG? Do we have a consensus?


We have T Bettleheim and I think that's it. I believe that's IG.

ASimulacraOfAlex wrote:
and finally,
EDIT 4: @ryutso, I asked rage to try and get some answers to those questions you proposed, and told him that he didnt need to be especially gentle, as long as he kept her alive. He replied:
Quote:
ArlenRage: I'll get to work on this, my friend. It'll take a little time - she's not the type to crack just due to second-hand smoke!


So I vote we wait till we get some answers before we proceed...anyone?


Second hand smoke....Hmm. I suggested Chinese Water Torture to him.

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Ryutso wrote:
ASimulacraOfAlex wrote:

I think we should put some feelers out to see how valuable holly really is, and see what leverage we might be able to get.


This. Let's put out some hints and see what they're willing to give in return for Holly. If she's that valuable then we may be able to trade for a guided tour of the Brightman.

ASimulacraOfAlex wrote:
Stuff

We have T Bettleheim and I think that's it. I believe that's IG.


So. I'll open communication with TB, and start by feeling out whether hes CIA, NSA, or Watcher.
@Classi-I know you said you weren't very good at negotiation, so I dont think you'll mind if I take some of that over, as I feel fairly confident in my negotiating skills. Also, if you could email bricker and try to get some contact info for ron...? I feel as though ron might actually be able to help keep bricker safe.

Also, some thoughts for anyone who might get caught up in negotiating... BB is expendable at this point. I know that is something no one wants to hear, but it's true, and it helps our bargaining tremendously. So we need to make clear that we don't need BB, but if anything happens to him they have no chance of getting Holly/RS back. So obviously the goal is to keep BB alive, but we need to make sure they know, in no uncertain terms that he is expendable, unlike Holly/RS. That immediately puts them on the defensive, as they still need a way to keep her alive.
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 		Good Mornning!!! Hey look. Rage made us a Comic Book...
From:http://www.1407oakhurst.info/
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Time's Running Out Jerry...She Can't Take Much More
(if ya know what we mean - and we think you do!)

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 		I will forgive the PM this time for the serious abuse of photoshop filters just because it made me lol.

Uhhh anyway, in reference to our brief gamejack:
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ArlenRage: Things still okay, my dear?

clas1ca: Yeah? Er. Did you think I wasn't okay?

ArlenRage: I was concerned. Don't underestimate your importance in this situation.

clas1ca: Collective 'you' or specific 'you'? In general, we're all a bit confused, but personally? I'm just dandy, thanks.

ArlenRage: Sorry for the confusion. Flies in the ointment and all that. I meant the specific you, by the way. It seems that Port is quite fond of you.


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ASimulacraOfAlex wrote:
Also, if you could email bricker and try to get some contact info for ron...? I feel as though ron might actually be able to help keep bricker safe.

Also, some thoughts for anyone who might get caught up in negotiating... BB is expendable at this point. I know that is something no one wants to hear, but it's true, and it helps our bargaining tremendously. So we need to make clear that we don't need BB, but if anything happens to him they have no chance of getting Holly/RS back. So obviously the goal is to keep BB alive, but we need to make sure they know, in no uncertain terms that he is expendable, unlike Holly/RS. That immediately puts them on the defensive, as they still need a way to keep her alive.


I'm not exactly sure I feel the same way about Ron. But that may just be me.

Also, Bricker's not entirely expendable. We still need the ending to the story, don't we? Has he sent that to anyone yet? But with that said, do they know that we don't have it already? It'd be a pretty serious bluff, but one to consider at any rate.

Also, I'm loving the comic - "Unregistered US Comic of Death" Laughing

Aww! Classi has an admirer! At least it's Port and not the morons that had Starr's phone before!

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 		This just in. I just checked my email from my phone and there is a message frpm our govermemt friend. I cant post it just yet. I will as soon as I get home.
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What's it going to take then?
 
 
I want her back and I want her back alive.  I don't care what it takes.  And tell Craig to submit whatever he wants, I don't give one shit what that pissant wants to do.
 
Don't fail me.

From: ************nsa.gov
To: T Bettelheim <distortedview>
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 9:07:11 AM
Subject: Re: Holly
 
 
 
Jerry, this is getting way the hell out of hand. Division says theres a 42% chance that AR is bluffing and that Holly is fine...which leaves what a 58% chance that shes being triple played right now by a bunch of guys that AR scraped out from under some bridge. Can we just pull the plug?


----- Forwarded Message ----
From: T Bettelheim <distortedview>
To: ************nsa.gov
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:39:14 PM
Subject: Re: Holly
 
What up Cronk?
 
It seems that your Chief's little fingerwarmer is about to sink our whole operation (lookit govtb.jpg on the G: drive). If Jer loses his nuts over this I swear I'm gonna submit a TASCO.  Do we push the button on BB?
 
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paperbound wrote:


I'm not exactly sure I feel the same way about Ron. But that may just be me.

Also, Bricker's not entirely expendable. We still need the ending to the story, don't we? Has he sent that to anyone yet? But with that said, do they know that we don't have it already? It'd be a pretty serious bluff, but one to consider at any rate.

Also, I'm loving the comic - "Unregistered US Comic of Death" Laughing

Aww! Classi has an admirer! At least it's Port and not the morons that had Starr's phone before!


Yeah, I have my doubts, but I think if he had meant BB harm, he wouldn't be checking in on him, asking him if he had a gun, etc.
Then again, maybe hes just making his presence known.

And you're right...we don't have that yet...I just meant from a bargaining standpoint, Bricker *is* expendable... *wink wink*

EDIT:

wow...I leave for a day and...two emails from our buddy T.

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from T Bettelheim <distortedview>
to Alex Galle-From <thealexster>
date Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 7:53 PM
subject Re: Randall Snodgrass
signed-by ymail.com

The attached pic was taken yesterday afternoon, yo!! At any moment we could snag somethin valuable to you too!!

Let's all play Mexican effen standoff!!


From: Alex Galle-From <thealexster>
To: distortedviewSPLATymail.com
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:28:36 PM
Subject: Randall Snodgrass

We have Randall. Is he valuable to you?

-the folded brood


Well that verifies that he's NSA...he knows the name randell.

EDIT 2:
And the second email...
This proves beyond a doubt hes working with NSA.

Quote:
from T Bettelheim <distortedview>
to <TheAlexster>
date Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:38 PM
subject Re: Holly
signed-by ymail.com

hide details 12:38 PM (1 hour ago)

What's it going to take then?

----------------------------------------------

I want her back and I want her back alive. I don't care what it takes. And tell Craig to submit whatever he wants, I don't give one shit what that pissant wants to do.

Don't fail me.

From: ************nsa.gov
To: T Bettelheim <distortedview>
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 9:07:11 AM
Subject: Re: Holly



Jerry, this is getting way the hell out of hand. Division says theres a 42% chance that AR is bluffing and that Holly is fine...which leaves what a 58% chance that shes being triple played right now by a bunch of guys that AR scraped out from under some bridge. Can we just pull the plug?

----- Forwarded Message ----
From: T Bettelheim <distortedview>
To: ************nsa.gov
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:39:14 PM
Subject: Re: Holly

What up Cronk?

It seems that your Chief's little fingerwarmer is about to sink our whole operation (lookit govtb.jpg on the G: drive). If Jer loses his nuts over this I swear I'm gonna submit a TASCO. Do we push the button on BB?

Wall-E


So, what do we want? Shit is going down. Not sure what the picture is of though...looks like a parking ramp.

EDIT 3:
This is on rage's twitter, for anyone who hasn't seen it yet.
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ArlenRageAlas, I discovered that getting her to talk just a little bit exposed the weakness in the armor. Be prepared for a downhill roll...

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 		That is the phoenix sky international airport.
( http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ogQ3e6qwgEknkf_TDRsE1A )
So bricker flew into phoenix. Fairly obvious, but interesting to note.

Also, I'm on my macbook pro traveling right now, so I don't have access to my photoshop...anyone want to take a look at that picture and see if they can bring out the reflection a little bit? I'm curious to see what T. looks like.
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ASimulacraOfAlex wrote:
That is the phoenix sky international airport.
( http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ogQ3e6qwgEknkf_TDRsE1A )
So bricker flew into phoenix. Fairly obvious, but interesting to note.

Also, I'm on my macbook pro traveling right now, so I don't have access to my photoshop...anyone want to take a look at that picture and see if they can bring out the reflection a little bit? I'm curious to see what T. looks like.


Bricker's not in Phoenix. But his wife is.

I think I can try to bring it out.

=edit=

Okay I suck at bringing out reflections. Messed around with everything and the only thing I can guess is that the guy was wearing a white shirt.

Also there's no EXIF data.

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Courtney,

This is really going too far. My wife said that Ron was asking about how I back up my computer files, if I kept any external drives and if I owned any guns. Then he just left and that was it. I've got a bad feeling about this so I'm taking my family to my sister-in-law's place in Arizona. I've finished the story and I'll send it when I get there.

--Brian


No, Bricker is in Phoenix as well. Anyways, why would TB say that:
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At any moment we could snag somethin valuable to you too!!

if he wasn't?

Anyways, its probably hard/impossible to bring out the reflection, i wouldn't really know where to begin...
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ASimulacraOfAlex wrote:
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Courtney,

This is really going too far. My wife said that Ron was asking about how I back up my computer files, if I kept any external drives and if I owned any guns. Then he just left and that was it. I've got a bad feeling about this so I'm taking my family to my sister-in-law's place in Arizona. I've finished the story and I'll send it when I get there.

--Brian


No, Bricker is in Phoenix as well. Anyways, why would TB say that:
Quote:
At any moment we could snag somethin valuable to you too!!

if he wasn't?

Anyways, its probably hard/impossible to bring out the reflection, i wouldn't really know where to begin...


I kinda thought that meant he would take his family there and then go back to his house in Cali. Don't ask why.

And TB would've said that because Bricker's family is as valuable to us as it is to Bricker. Think about it. If they nab Bricker's family, then Bricker puts pressure on us to give up Holly for his family as well as holding that final document from us until we do.

I'm kinda on the fence about this Ron guy though. Who is? What side is he on?

The only thing I can make out for sure in the photo, is that whoever took it had on a white T-shirt and the back trunk door window (whatever you wanna call it) was down.

*sigh* It might not be stegged but I don't have any programs for that.

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