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[PUZZLE TRAIL] The Least Known Secrets
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will free
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 		[PUZZLE TRAIL] The Least Known Secrets
I repeat: the least known secrets are those which aren't even recognized as such.
I repeat: the least known secrets are those which aren't even recognized as such.


In here is a tragedy — art thou player or audience?
Be as it may, the end doth remain: all go on only toward death.
















I created this little game partially inspired by Torment (and by my lack of success on those @&%$ blocks D: ) and partially by the apparent lack of these on Youtube format. Still, you probably needen't worry too much; GreenGecko has hundreds of times more knowlege on cryptography than I do.


WHO can play it? It's, of course, completely free, and with no download or registration anywhere. Some spooky/unpleasant segments may appear here and there, so you've been warned.



WHAT is it in there? Classic cryptology, celtic mythology, apophenia, subtext, subconscious, maths, myths, moths...

...sorry my atempts at alliteration are stupid; english is my 3rd language D:



HOW is it played exactly? The starting gameplay mechanics are that you're supposed to discover the starting gameplay mechanics for yourselves.





Truths and lies, life and death: a game of turning white to black and black to white.






WHERE is it played? This video gives some kind of an intro (it's widescreen, so viewing it there rather than embedded is sugested):



YouTube: Link

Its(my) Youtube channel's description gives the first cyphertext. I'd say that figuring out the gameplay style for the first part isn't too difficcult; still, I'll be glad to explain the basic mechanics/bury everything with tons of unnecesarily cryptic clues, on demand. It's the least I can do after this blatant self-promotion.


Good luck, and goodbye.





Ah, but verily... In here is a tragedy — art thou player or audience?
There is nothing which cannot become a puppet of fate, or an onlooker, peering into the cage.

PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:50 pm
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 		That really looks interesting.
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 		That is an amazing video- and amazing music too. I look forward to playing this.
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 		OK, that's what I got so far:

The quotes from Free Will posts:
Quote:

In here is a tragedy — art thou player or audience?
Be as it may, the end doth remain: all go on only toward death.
Truths and lies, life and death: a game of turning white to black and black to white.


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seems to be from SIlent Hill 3 ?!


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The code from his youtube account:

Quote:

49 20 52 65 50 65 61 54 3a 20 54 48 45 20 4c 45 41 53 54 20 4b 4e 4f 57 6e 20 53 45 43 52 45 74 53 20 61 52 45 20 74 48 4f 53 45 20 77 48 49 63 48 20 41 72 65 4e 27 54 20 45 56 45 4e 20 52 65 43 4f 47 4e 49 7a 65 44 20 41 53 20 73 75 43 68 2e


decodes to

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Hex:
I RePeaT: THE LEAST KNOWn SECREtS aRE tHOSE wHIcH AreN'T EVEN ReCOGNIzeD AS suCh.

only small letters:
eeantatwcrerzesu


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The hint from the video comments:

Quote:

In case a clue is needed, I repeat: Gur yrnfg xabja frpergf ner gubfr juvpu nera'g rira erpbtavmrq nf fhpu.

Fgrtnabtencul vf gur neg naq fpvrapr bs jevgvat uvqqra zrffntrf va fhpu n jnl gung ab-bar ncneg sebz gur fraqre naq vagraqrq erpvcvrag rira ernyvmrf gurer vf n uvqqra zrffntr.


decodes to

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ROT13:
The least known secrets are those which aren't even recognized as such. Steganography is the art and science of writing hidden messages in such a way that no-one apart from the sender and intended recipient even realizes there is a hidden message.

The seond sentence is from wikipedia


But no idea how to proceed ...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:44 pm
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AUZ505 wrote:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):

ROT13:
The least known secrets are those which aren't even recognized as such. Steganography is the art and science of writing hidden messages in such a way that no-one apart from the sender and intended recipient even realizes there is a hidden message.

The seond sentence is from wikipedia


But no idea how to proceed ...


I'm guessing that the image he posted in this thread is stegged. Its actually a .gif image even though its titled as a .jpg . I am not sure how to unsteg it, but thats my suggestion for future action lol.

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 		You can download the jpg version formhis youtube account. But no luck up to now with destegging.
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 		EDIT: Nevermind?



Oriza wrote:
That is an amazing video- and amazing music too.


^_^ kawaiiabo emote is pleased.

It's The Enemy Within, from the awesome soundtrack from the awesome Deus Ex. Even the song's name seemed incredibly appropiate so I had to toss it in.

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 		The red text is from Silent Hill 3.

will free, can you maybe give us a hint? All of us are stuck on this.... Confused
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 		Since in the wikipedia article Bacon cipher is mentioned I tried this on the decoded sentence (A = big letters, B = small letters). Even though the number of letters fits nothing useful come up.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:38 pm
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AUZ505 wrote:
Since in the wikipedia article Bacon cipher is mentioned I tried this on the decoded sentence (A = big letters, B = small letters). Even though the number of letters fits nothing useful come up.


What exactly is "nothing useful"?

P.S.: I'm not sure if there was a problem with the destination, but even if it was it should be fixed now.

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 		Hey, seems like I was on the right track Smile

OK, here is what I came up, which I think is not useful:

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I RePeaT: THE LEAST KNOWn SECREtS aRE tHOSE wHIcH AreN'T EVEN ReCOGNIzeD AS suCh.
A ABABBA AAA AAAAA AAAAB AAAAABA BAA BAAAA BAABA ABBA A AAAA ABAAAAABBA AA BBAB

AABAB f
BAAAA r
AAAAA a
AAAAB b
AAAAA a
BABAA w
BAAAA r
BAABA t
ABBAA n
AAAAA a
BAAAA r
ABBAA n
ABBAB o

frabawrtnarno


Maybe I made an mistake. So anybody can double check?
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 		I'm really bad at Bacon Ciphers...never did learn how to do them.
I tried ROT-ing it-- nothing. Anagrams didn't seem to help either, there was way too many of them...
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AUZ505 wrote:

OK, here is what I came up, which I think is not useful:


No one can deny the usefulness of something if he hasn't used it.


Look at the channel description again: it's not just WHAT to use, but WHERE.

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will free wrote:
AUZ505 wrote:

OK, here is what I came up, which I think is not useful:


No one can deny the usefulness of something if he hasn't used it.


Look at the channel description again: it's not just WHAT to use, but WHERE.


Thanks for the hint, I already found it in the meantime. Unfortunately the normal search function on the "where" place does not come up with any result.

ETA: Hopefully other players soon join.
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 		I am stuck. Am I the only player here?

The only hint I see on the new page is
FRA BA WRT EAR AY
and that it means:
FRANCIS BACON WROTE SHAKESPEARES PLAYS

So what could "frabawrtnarno" mean?

There is also a fency background image which could lead to something.
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