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**Posted:** Tue May 19, 2009 4:43 am

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MercenaryMuffin

Well, it says "James II and VII", so that would be 27...but the significance of that is...what? Foily!

**Posted:** Tue May 19, 2009 4:45 am

kosmopol

Hmmm... I suppose, we have here to do not with the number 27 (twenty seven), but with the combination of 2 and 7 as a pair (i.e. not 2+7=9, but really 2 and 7 in their intercommunication).

Well, it doesn't make more sense of the story as before, but perhaps after the ingame numerlogogy, if something or somebody becames status of 27 (or 2 and 7 in the same time) [age, number etc.], it becomes something special. So disappeared brother of Elliott was (due to his nature) special enought to disappear as he was 27?

**Posted:** Tue May 19, 2009 5:05 am

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MercenaryMuffin

That makes sense. But then the question remains...how are these things connected? We're getting lots of references to gods and deities, and we know 27 is connected with a great change, but I'm stumped as to how they fit with one another.

**Posted:** Tue May 19, 2009 5:16 am

amandel

update at Who is Simeon Hobbes Blog titled Household Artifacts and Other Musings with somethings to scrutinize. Coffee

**Posted:** Tue May 19, 2009 6:05 am

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kosmopol

So so Elliott is working at Ajira. Her brother (is Elliott actually she or he?) is working at Widemore. Nice combination Smile

**Posted:** Tue May 19, 2009 6:19 am

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MercenaryMuffin

Awesome. I'll get to work on it right away.

**Posted:** Tue May 19, 2009 6:23 am

amandel

**Posted:** Tue May 19, 2009 6:35 am

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MercenaryMuffin

well...this could take a while. Tedious key-based translation has never been my forte Laughing

Wish me luck

Bah. The problem is the symbol for "A" looks exactly like the symbol for "E"

**Posted:** Tue May 19, 2009 6:38 am

MercenaryMuffin

Okay, I have the first paragraph from the first "Hobbes Letter" translated.

By page line number:

Nathaniel,
1) BLFI UZGEVEVI NVZMG Z
2) CIVZG UZOW GL FH,
3) ZMW DV ZIV ELMEIVW
4) BLF DRHE GL ULOOLD
5) RM ERHULLGHVKH. DAVM
6) ADOMIE GLOW NV DEZG
7) BLF XLFOW WL, R PMVD
8.) BLF DVIV Z KVIUVXG
9) XZMWRWZGV.

Ooookaayy....well that solves a lot Laughing

Currently at work, I'll translate the others as soon as I can.

Edit:
OH MY GOD. Oh my god I've freakin' got this **** IN THE BAG. I know what I'm doing now, boys! WOOO! I can't believe I actually figured it out...it's my first big contribution to an ARG in 2 years Very Happy

Full translation should be up very soon!

**Posted:** Tue May 19, 2009 6:51 am

amandel

@MercenaryMuffin: Don't want to get in your way and Props so far. Are you turning the alphabet around now i.e. A=Z etc?

**Posted:** Tue May 19, 2009 7:42 am

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MercenaryMuffin

Yes, as a matter of fact I am. I'm done with the 2nd paragraph now, here's what I've got:

Please note that the initial translation from glyphs to letters had some mistakes, as it was easy to mistake A for S and such.

Original

Paragraph 1:

Nathaniel,
1)BLFI UZGAPAPI NVZMG
2) Z CIVZG WVOW GL FH,
3) ZMW DV ZIV ELMEIVW
4) BLF DRHE GL ULOOLD
5) RM ERH ULLGHVKH. DAVM
6) ADOMIE GLOW NV DEZG
7) BLF XLFOW WL, R PMVD
8.) BLF DVIV Z KVIUVXG
9) XZMWRWZGV.

Paragraph 2:

1) ALDVEVI, GAV ILZW
2) ZAVZW RH OLMC. BLF
3) NZBYV Z CLLW KVIHLM
4) RM NB VBVH, YFG JACOB
5) RH NFXA AZIWVI GL KOV-
6)-ZHV. RMRGRZGRLM RMGLLFI
7) LIWVI RH ZM LOWZMW
8.) HZXIVW KILXVHH, ZMW MLG
9) GAV VZHRVHG GARMC
10) GL VMWFIV.

Translated

Paragraph 1:

Nathaniel,
1) YOUR FATHERER [read:father] MEANT
2) A GREAT DEAL TO US
3) AND WE ARE HONORED
4) YOU WANT TO FOLLOW
5) IN HIS FOOTSTEPS. WHEN
6) ADOME [note: does not translate] TOLD ME WHAT
7) YOU COULD DO, I KNEW
8)YOU WERE A PERFECT
9) CANDIDATE.

Paragraph 2:
1) HOWEVER, THE ROAD
2) AHEAD IS LONG. YOU
3) MAY BE A GOOD PERSON
4) IN MY EYES, BUT JACOB
5) IS MUCH HARDER TO PLE-
6) ASE. INITIATION TO OUR
7) ORDER IS AN OLD AND
8.) SACRED PROCESS, AND NOT
9) THE EASIEST THING
10) TO ENDURE.

Okay...2 paragraphs down. If someone else wants to contribute, go right ahead, I feel perfectly happy that I actually figured something like this out on my own Very Happy

**Posted:** Tue May 19, 2009 8:24 am

DrBunker

Nice work MM but (and I hope this wasn't already on there when you started working on it Confused

) the full translation is now on the blog:

**Posted:** Tue May 19, 2009 8:34 am

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MercenaryMuffin

FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

And I thought I was gonna be all awesome and spend 2 hours or more translating the whole thing.
Curse you, internets!

Oh well...at least I contributed something useful.

DrBunker

Kudos to you anyway for getting as far as you did. Now you can tell us what it all means Wink

Edit: the site i-theta.org has nothing to do with this and i-theta.com is blank. Also, in the system of Greek numerals theta has a value of 9 (2+7) but I don't want to read any further into that.

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