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Farlad
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 		The new notebook is up:
http://liniansociety.org/research/nbznotebooks/bloodline_notebook_pt_2.pdf

There's definitely something going on with the tree pictures. There was one in the first notebook and three in the second. The last one lost a branch and the others have differing numbers of leaves.
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 		Glad to see that our number's growing! Smile

Thanks exanor for sharing yesterday's transcript! Here's the transcript of part 2:
Quote:
[page 47] empty
[page 48] empty
[page 49] [image - Linian tree with one leaf]

[page 50]
2/2/86
Been a long time since I've written in here. So much has happened.

The truth is I haven't been much of a scholar these past years. Oh, I've worked here and there, but it's been bluff. Rehashing Cognomi's work with some modern science superimposed. Nothing real. Nothing that will change the world. I guess this particular project was soured by what was going on then, by what has been going on ever since. These Smythies are persistent and not too pleasant. I never truly got started down this path, but I think I'm finally ready.

By now the Smyth Institute probably thinks I've given up.

I can't just sit by any longer. Something has stirred my interest.

Going back through the recounts of Smyth's voyages, I stumbled across this entry from the journal of crewmember Henry Thales:

"...during our stopover at Stamfar whaling station, South Georgia ... there was a young girl, 13 or so. Perhaps the only female on this island. Her skin was of a color I cannot quite describe. A beautiful color. She watched us with much fascination and would follow us around, though she said nothing. ... of all the whalers at hand, none could provide the origins of this girl, only that she "belonged to the station master" and was called Helena. Captain Smyth seems to have taken a particular interest in her."

Henry Thales, 1885

Where did she come from?

I'm reapplying myself to the bloodline. Searching for Helena of Stamfar.

[page 51]
2/5/86
Very little record of this girl, Helena. Looking through the accounts of men working at the station, there is a reference to a young girl spending her days at the Church and the Library. No indication as to how she came to be at South Georgia, or how long she was there. Earliest reference is 1880, one year after the station was established. From Thales' account we can assume she was about eight at this time.


[picture - maybe library of Stamfar station]


2/10/86
It seems the Stamfarstation master at the time was a Norwegian by the name of Kenneth Aagesen. He fathered a child, Ingrid, in 1891 near the end of his tenure, but no mention is made of the mother. Need more info, but could it be Helena?


2/12/86
Have found that after his time in South Georgia, Aagesen moved to Bemidji, MN where he joined his brother in running a farm. In the 1894 census he is listed as having a wife an[sic] child, but no names are given.

Going to head to Bemidji. This will be my first trip out of town in 20 years.

[page 52]
2/23/86
Bemidji

Farm is now owned by Johnson family. Took it over from Aagesen's brother in '90's. Saw someone else on the property. Not a farmer. Maybe Smyth Inst. is still watching me. Need to be careful.


2/24/86
1899 census lists wife Helena and children Ingrid and Bjorn. Aagesen died in 1916, age 62

After his death, the family relocated to Ozark, Missouri.
Must go to Ozark.
Going to low lay for a few days first just to be safe.

[picture - probably Aagesen farm]


[page 53] [empty]
[page 54] [picture Linian tree with four leaves]


[page 55]
3/2/86
Ozark
Helena never remarried. Died in 1960.
Found her grave. The grave of Helena of Stamfar. Birthdate says 1876. Somewhat later than I thought. Might be wrong.
Must admit I thought of digging her up.

Not sure if Smythies are still on me. If so, they must be wondering what in the world I'm doing in Ozark, Missouri.

[picture - grave of Helena Aagesen]


[page 56]
[add - Riverside Inn, Ozark, MO.]

3/3/86
Having a hard time tracking the children. No record of where they went once Helena died.


3/4/86
Actually made some progress today. Looks as though Ingrid Aagesen moved east after marrying. Still nothing on Bjorn.
I think the Smythies are still on me. Going to head up to Vancouver to throw them off. See an old friend.


[page 57]
3/6/86
Vancouver
Lyman has a good life, teaching history. I feel sorry for him though. He still hopelessly devoted to me.[sic]
I'll have access to a good library here. Hopefully I can get something done.

3/7/86
Found something on Bjorn today. Seems he moved to Canada at some point. Not sure what became of him after he left for the war.

[picture - declaration of recruit, Bjorn Aagesen]


[page 58]
3/8/86
Smythies are definitely still on me. They must have more interest in what I'm doing than I thought. Need to get out of Vancouver.
I should hide these notebooks just to be safe. Can't compromise this work. But where? Can't give them to Lyman, don't want to involve him. Need them to be safe in case something happens.

[page 59]
[picture of Linian tree with broken branch, no leaves]



exanor wrote:
... Maybe someone who's really good at PhotoShop can work some magic and see what else is there.

ETA* I also think I see hidden in there, the words "William Ward".


Well, I'm NOT good at image manipulation but I tried anyway and had no luck with the ink stain. Where do you see 'William Ward'?
While I couldn't find any hidden messages I had some luck with the script that 'shines through' from the backside of each page. The text IS from the notebook, but it's not always at the right location. Sorry, I'm bad at explaining this, maybe it's best when you see for yourself. This is just one example, page 50; I manipulated contrast and brightness and flipped the page, so that the mirrored script is legible:




I agree with Farlad that the trees look suspicious.

Side note: the "Riverside Inn" in Orzak has a website: http://Riversideinnrestaurant.com. Looks very real and OOG to me.

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 		My 3 cents worth
I've been lurking, but thought I would chip in with three things:

1. If you look closely at the picture of the library, there is a little girl looking out the window. An interesting fact, but not too important given that NZB's journal entry was talking about Helena in the notebook.

2. At first I thought the leaves on the tree was referencing back to how many people had been identified with Linian blood. First there was one leaf when only Helena was identified. Then there were for when you had Helena and her two kids... wait, that only adds up to three. Then when with Helena dead, Bjorn probably killed in the war, and the daughter off married somewhere, the branch is broken.

But why hide that information in a picture of a tree when that is what the whole journal is talking about?

3. We never figure out clue 1 did we? I was wondering if the orientation of the letters was significant. Some are normal, some read up the page and some down. As best I could figure...

Normal = REAENRNOFDE
UP = NOTSOTONS
DOWN = TSIENOE

Hard to be sure about it though because some letters look the same going up the page or down.

I ran an anagram program on the letters but didn't come up with much except you can get Norene out of the first bunch.

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 		Hey everybody,
I'm new to this, I've been posting on rootsofatree.com
I had no idea about this site but found it through google. I'm one of the few people that actually found out about Linian Society by going to the exhibit/lecture in April, thinking it was a real history exhibit and lecture.

Never done an ARG before but loving it so far!

Anyway, I had some thoughts about the notebook. Sorry if I repeat others.

maybe each question has an answer in the notebook. like the first question "does the linian line lead to a great city, as so many lines do?"

on the inside cover there is a logo for a paper company with a bunch of lines. the company is based in New York. This seems like confirmation of our earlier New York leanings.

Not sure if this is anything but it seems to fit.

There is definitely something to the tree as well. "if we follow the family tree through time, what fallen marker do we find?" To me, it seems like the answer is "limb" or "branch" or something.

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 		Arcas, glad to see you join in, you make some interesting points about the number of leaves on the tree. Why would there be four?


ArchDuke glad you found us, welcome to unFiction! Very Happy The graphic of the paper company is an interesting observation.

ArchDuke wrote:
There is definitely something to the tree as well. "if we follow the family tree through time, what fallen marker do we find?" To me, it seems like the answer is "limb" or "branch" or something.


I just can't get it out of my head, that Part II of Norene's Poems is pointing us to NYC Library, Main "Branch". As you can see the Lions sit outside this branch.

ETA* Part 2 of the Bloodline notebook as noted by Trillian, has several pictures: Linian Tree (3), Library, Farm, Grave "Marker", "Inn", Recruit Record. I think the key to Norene's Poems Part II are the pictures. It's the only thing that would make sense why Norene wrote "withinn". Also I'm positive there is a message hidden in the Farm picture down in the grass. See picture below.
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 		Agree that it's pointing us to a library.
"how have they marked the structure in which they keep their secrets locked?"
In the notebook there's a photo of a structure marked "library"
But where to look at the library?

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 		Putting together what all the previous posters have said:

does the linian line lead to a great city, as so many lines do?
The answer to this is New York as pointed out by Archduke

can we find the clue invisibly hidden in their blood, so red?
As enaxor said, the word "public" can be seen in the red ink.

how have they marked the structure in which they keep their secrets locked?
I'm pretty sure the answer here is library since that is where Norene found all the information on Helena and her ancestors.

what roaring place have they found withinn which they may dwell?
This might be referring to the lions outside the Main branch of the NYC library like Enaxor said, but I'm not sure if the double n in withinn has any significance.

if we follow the family tree through time, what fallen marker do we find?
This refers to the fallen branch in the last picture of the second notebook.

Putting it all together:
New York Library: ?(Maybe Main) Branch
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Farlad wrote:
what roaring place have they found withinn which they may dwell?
This might be referring to the lions outside the Main branch of the NYC library like Enaxor said, but I'm not sure if the double n in withinn has any significance.


See my post above, I was editing it while you were posting. Pretty sure it's pointing us to the picture of the Riverside Inn.

ETA* There's a Riverside Branch of the NYPL, located at 127 Amsterdam Avenue [at W. 65th St.].
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 		Here I go double posting again. Wink Fritz updated his blog with pictures of the Bloodline notebook. I commented about the pictures and the idea that it was pointing to Riverside Branch NYPL. Fritz followed with a comment...

Fritz wrote:
I looked up the address of the Riverside Branch of the NYPL. It's very close to where Norene's body was found on Manhattan's upper west side. I think you may be onto something.

How do the last three questions factor in?
And the third section?

Whatever Norene went to all this trouble to hide must be extremely important. Either that or she was nuts. Either way, I bet the Smyth Institute is going to be very interested in getting there before we do. If I know them, they're watching me somehow. I think we're close. Lets try to crack this thing. Daniel and Lyman will thank us later.


I commented with my next crazy theory...

enaxor wrote:

enaxor on Thu, 08/20/2009 - 22:14 Hmm, How do the last three questions fit in? Notice how the pages of the notebook are numbered and the rest appear to be ripped out? If that's the way the notebook was found and Norene is the one who ripped out the pages, maybe we add the page numbers together. The inside cover is marked page 1, and the entries start on page 42 and continue through 59, with the inside back cover marked 89, so... 1+42+43+44+45+46+47+48+49+50+51+52+53+54+55+56+57+58+59+89=999.

As to the symbol, I found this mentioned in a blog, that seems tied to the Linians: This is from Ben Macker's blog

"I found three separate paintings that showed people facing each other -- either two people two groups of people. It looked to me like they were in two different tribes or something.

In each picture the tribe shown on the left was taller, and one of the taller figures was always reaching out to the figures on the right. I couldn't tell if it was supposed to be a fight or a bargain or what, but the taller figure was holding something shown as a kind of stylized "x". I thought it might be a weapon or something; couldn't really tell. In one there might the painter might have been trying to show that the "x" thing was important with dabs of lighter color pigment around it."

If the X is the correct symbol, could she have meant 999x999=998001? Does it mean anything to you? Or maybe we need to find something at the Riverside Branch, that will help us with Part III.

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 		Just to let you guys know, I sent in an initial translation with a few comments and thoughts, well done to those who transcribed, i was only half way through when you posted. i also said that i had a feeling that there may be more notebooks hidden in the library. i told them these were only initial thoughts due to other work commitments.

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 		Here's the response I got back from 'Coop regarding my transcription/analysis:

Quote:
Thank you for your prompt work.
While the Society agrees with your interpretation of what Byrnes was seeking, we believe she was in a delusional state while engaged in this investigation and put very little stock in her findings. Her paranoia regarding the Smyth Institute (an unfortunate side-affect of her admittedly sour but non-threatening episode with them in 1977) seems to have taken over her life and impaired her reason.

We believe any attempt to find deeper meaning in this work to be a waste of resources Still, we believe the document is important to posterity and a full understanding of this important scholar.

Again, thank you for your good work. We will be making our decision next week.


What decision is he talking about? Are they deciding who the lucky person is who gets to be an unpaid research assistant, typing their fingers sore transcribing journal entries?

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Arcas wrote:
What decision is he talking about? Are they deciding who the lucky person is who gets to be an unpaid research assistant, typing their fingers sore transcribing journal entries?

Yepp! Laughing

@exanor Just wanted to say WOW! and Well done! I don't know how you came up with the page numbers/sums idea, I would have NEVER found that out! Fritz seems to like it, too:
Fritz wrote:
I'm not sure about the content of this blog you mention, but we have no reason to believe that "x" was a symbol of worship for the Linians. I have never encountered any such reference.
Still, I think we're on the right track. Particularly when you consider the subject headings of that number.


@ArchDuke Welcome to uF! Yours sounds like the ideal way to discover ARGs! Smile Can you tell us a bit about the lecture? E.g. How many people where there? What exactly was the lecture about? Did the people realise that they were listening to fictional facts and how did they react?

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 		So does anyone live in the New York Area, particularly near Riverside Library? There's probably something hidden at call number 998.001. According to the NYPL catalog, there are no books in the 998 section at Riverside, so maybe one of the PMs added a book there.
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 		I wish I was in New York to visit the library. I have some friends there that I could ask, but it should probably be a player.

@Trillian the lecture was really interesting. There were probably about 200 people there, I don't know if any of them knew what they were in for. It was advertised as pretty legit. There were Smyth people out front in white jackets handing out pamphlets, protesting the event. I wish I had saved the pamphlet now...

Inside there was the exhibit and then Lyman gave a lecture. It was about the Lynians leaving antarctica in ancient times and talked a little about the history and the geography of the lynian sea. I don't remember everything, it was pretty dense. A guy from the Smyths kept interrupting and caused a big scene at the end, smashing one of the exhibits. For me it was just confusing at the time, but now it makes sense.

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Trillian wrote:
@exanor Just wanted to say WOW! and Well done! I don't know how you came up with the page numbers/sums idea, I would have NEVER found that out! Fritz seems to like it, too:


Thanks, but I'm still not sure that's the right solution. I was just trying to figure out why Norene would have torn out all the other pages. There's so many other numbers in there that could be used for the same thing. Apparently, I did hit on something when I mentioned Bjorn's religious notation of "Z", since Fritz now thinks it's quite possible that's the symbol they worship. How it fits in with the sum of their numbers, I have no idea. There is no listing at that library branch for 998 Z or 999 Z .

I guess we need to get somebody to check it out, but I don't want to send somebody over there without knowing specifically what we're looking for.

@ArchDuke, I'm so jealous that you actually got to attend the lecture. I wish we'd discovered this a little sooner, but without Trillian, I don't think we'd have ever seen it.
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