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msheadwound
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 		Re: Holy crap
The Last Gent wrote:
I think we can safely conclude at this point that TTA is not human. There's no way in hell J didn't notice a guy standing RIGHT behind him filming while he was going through the house. He's either a spirit, or SM himself.


I don't know this is necessarily true. J has tweeted about blacking out before so he could have passed out, not just tripped and fallen, he was coughing heavily when he was getting up, and it was very dark in the house.

(I don't like the idea of TTA being SM, though, so I think if he is meant to be, I will resist this for a long time.)

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The Last Gent
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 		Still rubs me the wrong way.

I'm trying to picture TTA sneaking around behind him in the darkened house, possibly even lying in wait, and it just doesn't feel realistic to me for another human to be in that house nearby him and for him to never even notice it once. If he was being followed by something normal and corporeal you'd think it would have been seen at some point in the entry. No one's that stealthy in the dark in a messy, cramped house.

I don't really like the idea of TTA being non-corporeal, but I don't see how else that video could have been recorded.

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Kilo
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 		Re: Holy crap
The Last Gent wrote:
I think we can safely conclude at this point that TTA is not human. There's no way in hell J didn't notice a guy standing RIGHT behind him filming while he was going through the house. He's either a spirit, or SM himself.


Eh... that seems like it's jumping the gun a bit.

Let's go over this scenario here. It's a dark house, right? J has absolutely no idea what to expect. He brings a white flashlight, and just walks right inside, not really knowing what he's going to find.

Looking at J's power of perception, it's already quite diminished. Fun fact about white light: It messes up your night vision. You ever sit in a near-totally dark room, turn on the light for a little bit, and then turn it off? Your pupils just constricted from the bright light. Pupils will dilate immensely for a low/no light environment, but that takes time- upwards to a half hour to be totally acclimated. J may have had this walking up the house, but in the house, he totally lost it because of his flash light. So, basically, he limited himself to seeing whatever it was he illuminated at the time. The answer to that problem is a red light- it interferes with your night vision less, meaning when you kill the light, you can go back to seeing like a cat much, much faster.

J is also quite visibly ill. I mean, he collapsed from a coughing fit. That doesn't exactly point to excellent fitness and health. He's not in good shape, probably less likely to notice or respond to certain things. He's preoccupied by the things he's seeing. And, honestly, he seems quite numb- he doesn't seem to react to a whole lot. And, again, he doesn't know what he's walking into. Compare that to TTA, who obviously is capable of navigating the house without a light, who's purpose isn't so much as investigating the house as it is following the guy with the light, well...

I think this doesn't so much fall on TTA for being an awesome ghostninja, as it is J taking points out of Perception and putting them... well, I honestly don't know where. Obviously not Luck.

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 		One thing(of many) I am unclear on: Is #16 in Alex's house? I've seen spec on this, and I am trying to watch entry #11 closely, to figure out the layout is the same. I really think it is.
Why else would he walk in to a home for which he received info on Brian, but call out for Alex first? It doesn't make sense any other way for me. And I think it is very plausible for a person to sneak up behind you in total dark when you are scared/sick with out you knowing.

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 		Re: Holy crap
Kilo wrote:

Looking at J's power of perception, it's already quite diminished.


Agreed. I'd like to add that, from personal experience, I can say that sneaking around a small house is not very hard at all. I used to live with a guy who could be sitting at his computer looking at the internet, and it would take him upwards of thirty seconds to notice me standing behind him. (Disclaimer: I realise that may sound a bit creepy... well I thought it was amusing anyway). The point is TTA is probably better at sneaking than I am. Take a look at my post on the entry 16 topic if you haven't already, I actually think we both hear and see TTA in the entry. It just isn't obvious.

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 		The latest installment from TTA really brings he/she/its motives and relationship to J into question. The videos, starting with Exit, show that there has been an interest in J long before he began searching through the videos. The clip in Exit is no less than 3 years old, since it was done while Marble Hornets was filming and Alex was around. Either TTA was already suspicious of J or targeting him.

Also, if TTA wanted J offed, would it have had an easier opening then when he is on his hands and knees in an abandoned house? Probably not.

As for being being nonhuman, I'm pretty sure it sounds like someone walking into/shutting a sliding glass door before J has his coughing fit, when we now know that TTA is standing in the room with the shredded paper J first investigated.

EDIT: Agree with hiding in a small environment. It was pretty dark in there, and especially if TTA had been there already, he would have the knowledge of the lay of the land, if you will. Meanwhile, J is focused on upside down furniture and little things. I'm not so sure that TTA is supernatural as it might be someone who is playing some messed up games.

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Kilo
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Clueless wrote:
The latest installment from TTA really brings he/she/its motives and relationship to J into question. The videos, starting with Exit, show that there has been an interest in J long before he began searching through the videos. The clip in Exit is no less than 3 years old, since it was done while Marble Hornets was filming and Alex was around. Either TTA was already suspicious of J or targeting him.

Also, if TTA wanted J offed, would it have had an easier opening then when he is on his hands and knees in an abandoned house? Probably not.

As for being being nonhuman, I'm pretty sure it sounds like someone walking into/shutting a sliding glass door before J has his coughing fit, when we now know that TTA is standing in the room with the shredded paper J first investigated.

EDIT: Agree with hiding in a small environment. It was pretty dark in there, and especially if TTA had been there already, he would have the knowledge of the lay of the land, if you will. Meanwhile, J is focused on upside down furniture and little things. I'm not so sure that TTA is supernatural as it might be someone who is playing some messed up games.


I'm telling you man, TTA is that chick who J rejected in the second grade. She's never gotten over him.

But, in all seriousness. There's been 3 clips featuring people, right? Exit, Advocate, Addition. Exit and Addition are both clips featuring J, being filmed without his knowledge, 3 years apart. And their names seem fitting enough- Exit implies J left before something happened (I guess we can return to the theory of Alex being cursed with SM or whatever). Addition is, well, an addition to the most recent video.

Advocate is unique in that it gives a clip that shows us actual filming. Did we ever get a ruling on whether or not it was actually happening during entry 7? I remember a discussion on the tree to the right of the clip...

Anyway, I believe Advocate is key here. I think that it may be attempting to reveal a lot. Sadly, there are so many ways you could spin it at this point that it will probably only lead us in circles.

EDIT: New Twitter post from J.

Totheark is MOCKING me: http://bit.ly/iULxs

I think it's a little odd he takes it as a personal attack more than anything. I mean, honestly, I would freak out, but I would perceive it as more of a threat on my life than.

Unless, again, J knows more than he's letting on.

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 		marblehornets Totheark is MOCKING me: http://bit.ly/iULxs14 minutes ago from web

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Kilo wrote:
Clueless wrote:
The latest installment from TTA really brings he/she/its motives and relationship to J into question. The videos, starting with Exit, show that there has been an interest in J long before he began searching through the videos. The clip in Exit is no less than 3 years old, since it was done while Marble Hornets was filming and Alex was around. Either TTA was already suspicious of J or targeting him.

Also, if TTA wanted J offed, would it have had an easier opening then when he is on his hands and knees in an abandoned house? Probably not.

As for being being nonhuman, I'm pretty sure it sounds like someone walking into/shutting a sliding glass door before J has his coughing fit, when we now know that TTA is standing in the room with the shredded paper J first investigated.

EDIT: Agree with hiding in a small environment. It was pretty dark in there, and especially if TTA had been there already, he would have the knowledge of the lay of the land, if you will. Meanwhile, J is focused on upside down furniture and little things. I'm not so sure that TTA is supernatural as it might be someone who is playing some messed up games.


I'm telling you man, TTA is that chick who J rejected in the second grade. She's never gotten over him.

But, in all seriousness. There's been 3 clips featuring people, right? Exit, Advocate, Addition. Exit and Addition are both clips featuring J, being filmed without his knowledge, 3 years apart. And their names seem fitting enough- Exit implies J left before something happened (I guess we can return to the theory of Alex being cursed with SM or whatever). Addition is, well, an addition to the most recent video.

Advocate is unique in that it gives a clip that shows us actual filming. Did we ever get a ruling on whether or not it was actually happening during entry 7? I remember a discussion on the tree to the right of the clip...

Anyway, I believe Advocate is key here. I think that it may be attempting to reveal a lot. Sadly, there are so many ways you could spin it at this point that it will probably only lead us in circles.

EDIT: New Twitter post from J.

Totheark is MOCKING me: http://bit.ly/iULxs

I think it's a little odd he takes it as a personal attack more than anything. I mean, honestly, I would freak out, but I would perceive it as more of a threat on my life than.

Unless, again, J knows more than he's letting on.



i dont think j is thinking of it as a personal attack, more that he feels like he's being mocked that he/she/it is flaunting their power over him and that he cant do anything about it.

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 		:/ There's so much upturned furniture and stuff left to be investigated by J, it'd be no hard task to hide behind something, under something, or inside something, and then get a quick shot of J while he coughs and leave.

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 		joined just to say this:For the people wondering about what medication J took or why he took it. Why don't you just aask him? He is good about answering people that PM him on youtube

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 		Well, TTA could be a friendly ally, who is just watching out for J, making sure that he doesn't get mauled by SM.

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msheadwound
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Murder101 wrote:
joined just to say this:For the people wondering about what medication J took or why he took it. Why don't you just aask him? He is good about answering people that PM him on youtube


I did. He hasn't replied.

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 		Ah, how long has it been since you askedd him?

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Murder101 wrote:
Ah, how long has it been since you askedd him?


I asked on the 16th.

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