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The Last Gent
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 		You know, I'm kind of thinking that TTA is at the very least, immune to SM, seeing as he was likely in the same house as him.

Either that or he's a Renfield-type servant that has a bit of his power, hence the visual tear.

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madebz
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The Last Gent wrote:
You know, I'm kind of thinking that TTA is at the very least, immune to SM, seeing as he was likely in the same house as him.

Either that or he's a Renfield-type servant that has a bit of his power, hence the visual tear.


Have you noticed tape tears in entry 2?

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Kilo
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 		I don't really believe TTA has any of SM's power. I do believe there is a connection between the two- that's twice now that TTA has footage of J when SM was around (Well, allegedly, if we take the visual tears as evidence)

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BadAndi
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 		Hey, long time reader, first time poster.

Anyway, someone mentioned something about SM having religious connotations and the parallels between him and TTA.

Just a thought here, but what if TTA is 'worshipping' SM somehow? Or if not, then at least views him with some sort of reverence, like some kind of angel. Just an interesting train of thought I came across.

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kevrock
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 		While playing around w/ the Internet Anagram Server, I discovered that...

MARBLE HORNETS

... can also spell...

ABHORRENT ELMS

... which in some ways is a more appropriate name for this story. Smile

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Two2teps
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Kilo wrote:
I think people need to stop getting hung up on SM canon. For what feels like the fifth time saying it, nothing is known for sure about SM, expect what is presented to us in the videos.

So, really, the whole kids thing needs to be tossed. TOSSED I SAY.

Also, I really don't like the idea of Slender Men. I'm content with taking entries 13 and 14 as tentative proof that he's one hell of a Houdini.



Agreed. People seem to be getting crazy with him and creating powers and abilities for him and then stacking theories on top of conjecture. As it stands, I feel there are only two clear paths to what is going on based on the information we have.


Path #1; Supernatural
The entity we are referring to as Slender Man (SM) is some variety of paranormal entity. We do not know what exactly, could be alien, monster, ghost, etc. As such we don't know what, if any, extra-natural abilities he may have over people and his environment. All we know is he seems to have stalked Alex at one point, and caused him to have a sort of mental break down. Again we don't know if that's a power of his, or just the stress of having some unknown beastie harassing you.

Beyond that we cannot guess as to what influence he has over people. We don't know if he is or can control people, we don't know if there is more than one of him, and we don't know if he can "turn" people into more like himself.

Path #2; "Gaslight"
I'm referring to this one as Gaslight, based off an old movie. The gist of the old movie was a husband started doing things to his wife to convince her, and others that she was insane. Making her think she was hearing voices, rearranging rooms and acting as if nothing was wrong etc. The end goal was to have her institutionalized so he could proceed with some nefarious objective.

All of that aside, its' also probable that everything Alex experienced was an elaborate prank (for lack of a better term) the motives and outcome of which we don't know. Perhaps the prank got out of control and something much worse happened, a death or someone being driven insane.


With that laid out we also cannot assume what TTA is or isn't. In situation #1 he could be someone driven batty by experience or in some other way involved. Without evidence that's the best we can do. Yes we can hypothesize that he is SM or that he's possessed but without knowing what SM is we can't say.

In situation #2 he could easily just be a co-conspirator in the possible "gaslight" situation. If something did go horribly wrong in some manner of speaking it could just be in his best interest to try and cover it up. Perhaps even by driving J, who's investigating it, equally as insane as Alex was at one point.

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The Last Gent
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 		I think the entry where SM went into Alex's room kind of chucks out the fact that the Slender Man isn't paranormal, strictly because he wanders into the room, and then vanishes when the lights turn on.

[Meta] it'd be a simple trick to do when filming, just go where the camera isn't in the dark, however I think the intention was that he completely disappeared, as Alex would have seen him if he was anywhere in that tiny room [/meta]

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eggopm3
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 		In response to not all the videos with slenderman having audio and/or visual distortion. My friend who was watching the videos said he thought that might have to do with HOW slenderman appears.

I don't know if that gives anybody any ideas or anything. But I hadn't seen that idea suggested here yet, so I thought I'd share it.

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kevrock
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The Last Gent wrote:
I think the intention was that he completely disappeared, as Alex would have seen him if he was anywhere in that tiny room [/meta]


Some have noted that he is intensely staring at something off screen rather than looking into the camera when he is shown bloodied.

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TheAtroxious
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 		Hm, it looks more like he was just really tired or emotionless. I'd go with something said a while back, that Alex was waiting for the tape to run out so he could immediately pop in a new one.

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 		Tim's admittance of "dead animals showing up on Alex's lawn" does make me think he may have been in on the gaslighting. As far as we know, SM isn't into that sort of thing; it sounds like something a bunch of college kids would think up to get their "revenge".

Speaking of Gaslight, the "Screaming Skull" (from MST3k) did something similar - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Screaming_Skull. The husband was faking ghosts to freak out his wife, but then the real ghosts showed up. This opens up a possible Path 3. Maybe someone was pretending to be SM *and* the real (paranormal) one was also skulking around. It could explain the multiple SM's per scene.

Motives: Alex's personality shift during the course of filming, or a SM fan got jealous at Alex for getting too close to SM. This places any motive-driven pranking near the middle of shooting MH - Alex turned antisocial only after initial SM encounters.

At times, Alex seems to be chasing down SM. If he thinks someone is pretending to be SM, maybe he's trying to hunt him down to figure out who's behind it. It's a reckless move, but J was equally reckless in the latest entry (and was under equal levels of stress).

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Two2teps
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morscata12 wrote:

Maybe someone was pretending to be SM *and* the real (paranormal) one was also skulking around. It could explain the multiple SM's per scene.


I'd definitely get behind that angle as well. It definitely fits with the idea that it starts as a prank and then "something" goes wrong. I'd say invoking the real SM would be a bad thing.

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kevrock
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Two2teps wrote:
morscata12 wrote:

Maybe someone was pretending to be SM *and* the real (paranormal) one was also skulking around. It could explain the multiple SM's per scene.


I'd definitely get behind that angle as well. It definitely fits with the idea that it starts as a prank and then "something" goes wrong. I'd say invoking the real SM would be a bad thing.


I pointed this out in another thread: One could speculate that the chalk O+X symbol on the ground in Entry #13 and the drawings from Entry #8 could be sigils either of protection or summoning of SM.

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Omega_Absolute
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lady_noreen wrote:
DavFlamerock wrote:
Hardly--even in Victor Suero's initial conception of the Slender Man, he made posts about adult hikers getting lost in a misty forest and meeting an unfortunate end


Misty forests? Doesn't that kind of throw out the Slendy's-afraid-of-water theory, and make it more likely he's attracted to water? I forget if that was already agreed on.


There was no such theory. One of the things in the SA forum was that he was attracted to water, not the other way around.

EDIT:
"Even though The Slender Man is a total fabrication, people have already claimed sightings. He appears to the unwitting mostly at night, and most always peering out of wooded areas or near rivers. He has also been reported to peek inside left open windows and to walk out in front of lone motorists on long uninhabited roads. The Slender Man or men, have appeared everywhere from Japan, Norway, and America to name a growing few. "

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Omega_Absolute
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 		I hate double posting but, you'll live. I just thought of the "OXO" or "DXD" or whatever from #16. The sequences from Program follow a 1-2-1 pattern. Similar to OXO or whatever. I dunno, maybe im over thinking.

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