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chaos
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static1800 wrote:
I'm thinking SM is paranormal and was stalking Alex for an unknown to us reason. You have to remember that the entries are not in order as the to actual events.

At first I think Alex is interested in who the man is (entry 2) maybe starts looking for him like in the park. SM then starts to follow Alex and finds his house (entry 1) leading onto the other encounters at his house.

Which also occurs while he is filming example entry 7 when Alex is clearly disturbed by SM's presence.

We can see why Alex would have moved away but one thing to me is why Alex gave the tapes to J, he told J to burn them but really who would? you would want to look at them. Maybe J having the tapes and being aware of SM will lead him to being stalked also and in doing so Alex may have released himself from SM.

Just a theory, we will have to wait and see how it all pans out.

i reckon entry 7 was a bit earlier than you put it..
if alex'd been in full-psycho when SM was in the middle of 'em like that, he'da been a speck on the horizon after 5 seconds...

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chaos wrote:
static1800 wrote:
I'm thinking SM is paranormal and was stalking Alex for an unknown to us reason. You have to remember that the entries are not in order as the to actual events.

At first I think Alex is interested in who the man is (entry 2) maybe starts looking for him like in the park. SM then starts to follow Alex and finds his house (entry 1) leading onto the other encounters at his house.

Which also occurs while he is filming example entry 7 when Alex is clearly disturbed by SM's presence.

We can see why Alex would have moved away but one thing to me is why Alex gave the tapes to J, he told J to burn them but really who would? you would want to look at them. Maybe J having the tapes and being aware of SM will lead him to being stalked also and in doing so Alex may have released himself from SM.

Just a theory, we will have to wait and see how it all pans out.

i reckon entry 7 was a bit earlier than you put it..
if alex'd been in full-psycho when SM was in the middle of 'em like that, he'da been a speck on the horizon after 5 seconds...


that does make sense...

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static1800 wrote:
I'm thinking SM is paranormal and was stalking Alex for an unknown to us reason. You have to remember that the entries are not in order as the to actual events.

At first I think Alex is interested in who the man is (entry 2) maybe starts looking for him like in the park. SM then starts to follow Alex and finds his house (entry 1) leading onto the other encounters at his house.

Which also occurs while he is filming example entry 7 when Alex is clearly disturbed by SM's presence.

We can see why Alex would have moved away but one thing to me is why Alex gave the tapes to J, he told J to burn them but really who would? you would want to look at them. Maybe J having the tapes and being aware of SM will lead him to being stalked also and in doing so Alex may have released himself from SM.

Just a theory, we will have to wait and see how it all pans out.



I'm definitely feeling this as a good reason. It would explain why he seems to be searching for him in some entries and fleeing in others. It makes me think of the "Noh Face" in the anime movie "Spirited Away".

In the film the character befriends a spirit that is typically ignored and left to its own devices. The spirit starts following her and eventually starts causing trouble.

Perhaps Alex's interaction with Slender Man in Entry 12 started the stream of events leading to his paranoia and general case of the crazies. It could also give credence to the theory that Alex "passed" SM to J by giving him the videos.

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Two2teps wrote:
static1800 wrote:
I'm thinking SM is paranormal and was stalking Alex for an unknown to us reason. You have to remember that the entries are not in order as the to actual events.

At first I think Alex is interested in who the man is (entry 2) maybe starts looking for him like in the park. SM then starts to follow Alex and finds his house (entry 1) leading onto the other encounters at his house.

Which also occurs while he is filming example entry 7 when Alex is clearly disturbed by SM's presence.

We can see why Alex would have moved away but one thing to me is why Alex gave the tapes to J, he told J to burn them but really who would? you would want to look at them. Maybe J having the tapes and being aware of SM will lead him to being stalked also and in doing so Alex may have released himself from SM.

Just a theory, we will have to wait and see how it all pans out.



I'm definitely feeling this as a good reason. It would explain why he seems to be searching for him in some entries and fleeing in others. It makes me think of the "Noh Face" in the anime movie "Spirited Away".

In the film the character befriends a spirit that is typically ignored and left to its own devices. The spirit starts following her and eventually starts causing trouble.

Perhaps Alex's interaction with Slender Man in Entry 12 started the stream of events leading to his paranoia and general case of the crazies. It could also give credence to the theory that Alex "passed" SM to J by giving him the videos.


So how does Brian and the other actors come into play?

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incedio wrote:
Two2teps wrote:
static1800 wrote:
I'm thinking SM is paranormal and was stalking Alex for an unknown to us reason. You have to remember that the entries are not in order as the to actual events.

At first I think Alex is interested in who the man is (entry 2) maybe starts looking for him like in the park. SM then starts to follow Alex and finds his house (entry 1) leading onto the other encounters at his house.

Which also occurs while he is filming example entry 7 when Alex is clearly disturbed by SM's presence.

We can see why Alex would have moved away but one thing to me is why Alex gave the tapes to J, he told J to burn them but really who would? you would want to look at them. Maybe J having the tapes and being aware of SM will lead him to being stalked also and in doing so Alex may have released himself from SM.

Just a theory, we will have to wait and see how it all pans out.



I'm definitely feeling this as a good reason. It would explain why he seems to be searching for him in some entries and fleeing in others. It makes me think of the "Noh Face" in the anime movie "Spirited Away".

In the film the character befriends a spirit that is typically ignored and left to its own devices. The spirit starts following her and eventually starts causing trouble.

Perhaps Alex's interaction with Slender Man in Entry 12 started the stream of events leading to his paranoia and general case of the crazies. It could also give credence to the theory that Alex "passed" SM to J by giving him the videos.


So how does Brian and the other actors come into play?


Collateral damage. As SM begins stalking Alex, he comes into contact with Brian. For unknown reasons, he begins to stalk them both. Whent they find out that they are both experiencing the same phenomenon, they both hole up in Alex's apartment. Complications arose, ensued.

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chaos
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or the animals thing is a red herring[maybe for brian as well{thought he was being stalked because of that when he actually wasn't}]
and he was safe from SM...

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Two2teps
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incedio wrote:

So how does Brian and the other actors come into play?


Funny you should mention that. I was watching Entry #14 and there is a shot of the hall outside Alex's bedroom and what appears to be stairs leading down immediately outside the bedroom door. Also in his room is a dresser directly behind his door, in line of site down the stairs.

In J's video exploring the house where Brian was supposed to be located he looks up the stairs and sees a wooden cabinet/dresser in the same location that Alex's was located in, as well as the rooms location in the house. [Problem here is the 3yr gap between videos.]

Now I bring this up because J was looking for Brian but called for Alex first, why call Alex's name? Because the house was/is Alex's. (Other evidence to support this is J saying he had "Alex's drawings" not Brian's, or just flat out "drawings")

If this is true that means that Brian was hiding/squatting in Alex's house, another cast member of Marble Hornets. This could also account for Tim's apparent uneasiness about answering questions about MH if two people from this movie went bonkers.

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static1800 wrote:
Maybe J having the tapes and being aware of SM will lead him to being stalked also and in doing so Alex may have released himself from SM.


I like this idea. Its basically the plot to the Mothman Prophecies (the book, not the movie). The deeper John Keel investigated Mothman and Indrid Cold, the worse it became - both more violent. more invasive. In the end, he had to stop reacting to instances of them, stop investigating, hanging up when they called his house, etc.

Now that I think about it, they have a lot in common. Even the idea of SM is very Mothman-esque.

"He who fights against monsters should see to it that he does not become a monster in the process. And when you stare persistently into an abyss, the abyss also stares into you." -Nietzsche

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Stupid thing; it randomly logged me out and I can't for the life of me remember my password, and I couldn't find which email I signed up with, so it won't let me login for half an hour. Boo-urns

I just wanna say that in Entry #12, when SM is staring at the MH crew, I got this vibe that he was, I dunno, angry or upset. It doesn't seem like SM's MO to stand in the center of a clearing in broad daylight, exposing himself to several people at once. I think it's a possibility that one of the crew members (probably Alex) unwittingly did something to upset or provoke SM in someway prior to this incident. Just a thought.

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BaronVonCake wrote:
I just wanna say that in Entry #12, when SM is staring at the MH crew, I got this vibe that he was, I dunno, angry or upset. It doesn't seem like SM's MO to stand in the center of a clearing in broad daylight, exposing himself to several people at once. I think it's a possibility that one of the crew members (probably Alex) unwittingly did something to upset or provoke SM in someway prior to this incident. Just a thought.


I concur; If SM was just gonna spy on them, he'd have skulked around in the shadows and trees like he does most of the time. SM is also agile enough that its not as if he was strolling home and WHOOPS there's some dudes filming! It was definitely more of a, "Oooh, tasty brains. Hey guys, look at the big scary monster over here! Oh, you're gonna step to me? Bring it!" Smile

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chaos wrote:

i reckon entry 7 was a bit earlier than you put it..
if alex'd been in full-psycho when SM was in the middle of 'em like that, he'da been a speck on the horizon after 5 seconds...


Alex did leave straight away though, as soon as Brian moved his head back Alex froze up in terror/shock until Brian asked him the question. He was clearly disturbed by his presence.

Come to think of it maybe Alex was in a state like he is at the end of Entry 14 and snapped out of it when Brian speaks to him like the alarm does.

But in saying that Alex was more like himself, not abusive to the actors like in other entries. So it could well be before SM turns up at his house.

But we are splitting hairs here, I was mainly using it as an example of SM stalking him.

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Two2teps wrote:
incedio wrote:

So how does Brian and the other actors come into play?


Funny you should mention that. I was watching Entry #14 and there is a shot of the hall outside Alex's bedroom and what appears to be stairs leading down immediately outside the bedroom door. Also in his room is a dresser directly behind his door, in line of site down the stairs.

In J's video exploring the house where Brian was supposed to be located he looks up the stairs and sees a wooden cabinet/dresser in the same location that Alex's was located in, as well as the rooms location in the house. [Problem here is the 3yr gap between videos.]

Now I bring this up because J was looking for Brian but called for Alex first, why call Alex's name? Because the house was/is Alex's. (Other evidence to support this is J saying he had "Alex's drawings" not Brian's, or just flat out "drawings")

If this is true that means that Brian was hiding/squatting in Alex's house, another cast member of Marble Hornets. This could also account for Tim's apparent uneasiness about answering questions about MH if two people from this movie went bonkers.


Biggest problem with your theory is that Alex was J's close friend. He'd recognize the address once tipped off to him.

No, I think it is Brian's house, or a place they were both staying in. I do, however, agree that this is the same house that was featured in some of the videos.

Certain Entries [I believe 3, case in point] feature a very cabin-y, small-dwelling area where Alex is working, when his Cell Phone goes off. Not a lot of woodsy furnishings in this big place, though. Certainly no electrical systems.

That's one thing no one really mentioned; The house had to have been either abandoned for quite some time, or Alex and Brian have literally been hiding out there for so long that the electric and water companies had to come and turn everything off themselves. If the latter is true, it could have been what forced them from their hiding.

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static1800 wrote:
I'm thinking SM is paranormal and was stalking Alex for an unknown to us reason.


I think so too.

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We can see why Alex would have moved away but one thing to me is why Alex gave the tapes to J, he told J to burn them but really who would? you would want to look at them.


One of the main mysteries in my opinion. As you say, Alex seemingly moved to get away from SM, but handing over the tapes to J doesn't make much sense - unless Alex was trying to apply some last ditch "supernatural treatment" to his problem in hoping to off the SM to J.

Which does seem to have worked, but perhaps too late for Alex after all these years. From what it seems, just watching the tapes and seeing SM on them was enough to "infect" J with this Ringu/Grudge-style "curse".

It seems imo the key (from the evidence so far) for gaining SM problems is for the victim to see SM in "reality" or on recorded tape. The tapes stayed happily enough with J for three years until he viewed them.

edit:

if all that is a possible scenario (of probably billions), perhaps we should keep an eye out on Alex and J's relationship regarding clues on why Alex might try and offload the SM on J (instead, for example, on Brian or Tim).

Going by the evidence that viewing SM on tape is enough to cause trouble, it could have played out like this:

Alex gives the tapes to J hoping to get shot of SM, but J doesn't watch them for three years. Alex eventually succumbs to SM. Brian was either in on "infecting" J, or perhaps figured it out himself eventually. Once J starts viewing the tapes and broadcasting, Brian discovers this and becomes TTA in order to mess with J's head in revenge for Alex's disappearance and document J's succumbing.

This is all just rambling supposition, don't take it too seriously.

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Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on.

If SM is as superstitious, ominous, and magical as we're lead to believe, how would moving away solve anything?

SM needed something from Alex. He either got it, or Alex didn't have it.

Something smells fishy. Even moreso than yesterday, and that's saying something.


Shit smelled like salmon yesterday.

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I agree it wouldn't solve anything, but it seems Alex could have believed it would, just as he might have felt giving the tapes to J could "clear his name".

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