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Two2teps
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Entry #17 seems to give one or two possible reasons for Alex's constant tapping of himself.


1) His memory was compromised similar to the way J's was. He couldn't clearly remember things, or at least SM so he began taping himself as a way to really see what was happening. Since his memory was a lie.

and/or...

2) The taping kept SM at bay in the sense he wouldn't make a serious move towards Alex as long as the camera was on and filming. Obviously he's caught on film in quite a number of entries however he doesn't ever seem to make contact.

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Kilo
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Two2teps wrote:
Entry #17 seems to give one or two possible reasons for Alex's constant tapping of himself.


1) His memory was compromised similar to the way J's was. He couldn't clearly remember things, or at least SM so he began taping himself as a way to really see what was happening. Since his memory was a lie.

and/or...

2) The taping kept SM at bay in the sense he wouldn't make a serious move towards Alex as long as the camera was on and filming. Obviously he's caught on film in quite a number of entries however he doesn't ever seem to make contact.


Eh... I don't know what you mean be serious contact. I mean, SM basically cuts him off in 13 when Alex took off running from him. 14 actually involved SM breaking and entering his home- even though he bails for whatever reason (Allegedly). I'm convinced that 1/6/10 are all from the same night, and that involved SM giving chase.

SM obviously wants something with Alex, and the camera isn't doing a great job of deterring him.

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BaronVonCakeman
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Son of a bitch. Video was posted almost the exact time I said it would.

I'm wondering if since J doesn't remember Entry #17 taking place, SM was affecting him way back then. This caused me to wonder if maybe SM was always after J, and at some point during or before Marble Hornets began, J passed him off onto Alex, but doesn't remember. Maybe that's why some of totheark's videos can be seen as malicious towards J. Maybe in Entry #13, when J leaves Alex, he had already set up the trap for Alex to get "captured" or "targeted" by SM. That could be why totheark was filming him. Kinda like "Gotcha, you bastard."

I dunno. Just something I don't think was brought up before.

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MarieDarling
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Did J's amnesia protect him from SM 3 years ago? And now that he's starting to remember/see SM he's become a target?

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Pogo
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Mad props on the pumpkin. To the guy joining the Navy, nice. A good friend of mine is a sea bee. I'm joining the Air Force, for my love of planes.

Okay now back to SM.

Notes:

*J is the only one that is cold.

*Tim was thirsty, again with the water. (Could this eliminate the idea that SM is afraid of water? He still stood there even though there was water near him. Perhaps water is just a totheark thing.

*Brian was probably more involved with MH than we know. They ask where Brian is and apparently he ran down to the store to get some snacks. Could he have sensed a creeping SM, got scared, and left?

*Slender Man does indeed move, it doesn't seem like this is the mannequin to me, but the dude in the suit in the previous entry.

*The crazy weird effects happens after J leaves the frame. OH GOD.

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Kilo
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I'm telling you, SM projects a god damned field. The memory thing plus the destroying the tape thing is from SM freaking out.

OK, look, SM projects a field. This field messes up all electronic equipment in the area. That's his natural state. I believe it can also mess up people's minds- possibly alters their perception of things, or makes their memory go wonky. However, SM can "Dim" himself- reduce his signature, withdraw his field when he doesn't want to be noticed. That's why he was able to stand outside the window the whole time. When he dims himself, your eyes just naturally skate over him unless you're looking for him (I hate using "him" as a pronoun for SM, but it feels more natural than "it"), and he doesn't mess with the electronic equipment.

I feel that this can justify previous inconsistencies in the entries- number 11, where supposedly Alex couldn't find SM, even though he was obviously near and there's no audio distortion. It can also explain some of the heavier distortion- he somehow amped up the field in 12, so everybody saw him and the tape was messed up heavily.

In 17, SM freaked out from the water- an "outburst" for SM was basically cranking the field x10, which more or less destroyed the tape and wiped everyone's memories.

Obviously, this all theoretical, but it makes sense in my head.

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BaronVonCakeman
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Kilo wrote:
I'm telling you, SM projects a god damned field. The memory thing plus the destroying the tape thing is from SM freaking out.

OK, look, SM projects a field. This field messes up all electronic equipment in the area. That's his natural state. I believe it can also mess up people's minds- possibly alters their perception of things, or makes their memory go wonky. However, SM can "Dim" himself- reduce his signature, withdraw his field when he doesn't want to be noticed. That's why he was able to stand outside the window the whole time. When he dims himself, your eyes just naturally skate over him unless you're looking for him (I hate using "him" as a pronoun for SM, but it feels more natural than "it"), and he doesn't mess with the electronic equipment.

I feel that this can justify previous inconsistencies in the entries- number 11, where supposedly Alex couldn't find SM, even though he was obviously near and there's no audio distortion. It can also explain some of the heavier distortion- he somehow amped up the field in 12, so everybody saw him and the tape was messed up heavily.

In 17, SM freaked out from the water- an "outburst" for SM was basically cranking the field x10, which more or less destroyed the tape and wiped everyone's memories.

Obviously, this all theoretical, but it makes sense in my head.


I agree completely. I was always under the impression that SM's presence emits some kind of technological interference, and that he can control its intensity. I think it's pretty safe to say that at least one of the main reasons Alex was filming himself is that he was blacking out and couldn't remember things happening/what he was doing.

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Ugly Myfanwe
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Man everyone thinks this Marble Hornets film is a load of crap. Check out the look on Tim's face after he finds out Alex wrote all the dialogue and compare that to J's "pretentious film school fare" comment.

Probably irrelevant but I think it's funny and sad that they aren't even trying to be nice about it.

Also the captcha on this site is effing ridiculous. I exceeded my attempts every single time because it's damn near impossible to tell what letter goes where. Every single time I have some stray, half-buried letter overlapping another one and you can't tell where it goes. ARGH.

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BaronVonCakeman
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Ugly Myfanwe wrote:
Man everyone thinks this Marble Hornets film is a load of crap. Check out the look on Tim's face after he finds out Alex wrote all the dialogue and compare that to J's "pretentious film school fare" comment.

Probably irrelevant but I think it's funny and sad that they aren't even trying to be nice about it.

Also the captcha on this site is effing ridiculous. I exceeded my attempts every single time because it's damn near impossible to tell what letter goes where. Every single time I have some stray, half-buried letter overlapping another one and you can't tell where it goes. ARGH.


That's something else I've noticed and have been pondering: I wonder if the whole project was made up by Alex just as an excuse to film himself and his friends/other people?

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Ugly Myfanwe
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BaronVonCakeman wrote:
Ugly Myfanwe wrote:
Man everyone thinks this Marble Hornets film is a load of crap. Check out the look on Tim's face after he finds out Alex wrote all the dialogue and compare that to J's "pretentious film school fare" comment.

Probably irrelevant but I think it's funny and sad that they aren't even trying to be nice about it.

Also the captcha on this site is effing ridiculous. I exceeded my attempts every single time because it's damn near impossible to tell what letter goes where. Every single time I have some stray, half-buried letter overlapping another one and you can't tell where it goes. ARGH.


That's something else I've noticed and have been pondering: I wonder if the whole project was made up by Alex just as an excuse to film himself and his friends/other people?


!!!

Holy crap, I didn't think of that when I posted, now I feel slow. That certainly skews the entire thing, doesn't it. Although I have to question, if that's the case, why he chews out his actors when they don't get into character.

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AxMxK
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I don't think someone would need to have such an elaborate lie just so one could film themselves. Besides, Alex would have been stressed from the beginning, if that was the case. Also, if I was falsely making a film, I wouldn't feel a need to go location scouting beforehand, especially with someone else filming it.

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Ugly Myfanwe
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I'm inclined to agree with AxMxK, although it WOULD certainly be handy for him later, when he needed an excuse to tote cameras everywhere and was already filming constantly.

Although to be fair, the location scouting thing COULD have been a very elaborate attempt to have someone else filming him while he stood in a spot he had suspicions about, so that later he could check the film for anomalies. Not dismissing one or the other, just a thought.

Then again if I told my friends, "hey, some weird crap happened out by this old climbing wall, come film me!" I am sure they'd be all for it without the need for an elaborate ruse. It does seem unnecessary.

Wouldn't it also, though, explain the random title that no one has figured out yet? Didn't J point out that Alex's house was full of bric-a-brac and he'd named the film after some item in the house that (supposedly) played a role in the plot? Was it that situation or was it a "uh, my name is Mr.... Door. Yes. Door. And this is my friend, Mr.... Tree. Yes, Mr. Tree" type of thing?

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TheNightmareComplex
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@Kilo: Going in as Operation Specialist in the good ol' US Navy

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Kilo
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An OS, eh? I can't tell you much about that except that you're gonna be on a ship in about 4 months.

I'm still a baby by Navy standards because I've only been in for 8 months on November 17, but if you have any questions about boot camp or anything, feel free to hit me up. I can actually talk about boot camp with some authority, because I was just there.

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Ugly Myfanwe wrote:
I'm inclined to agree with AxMxK, although it WOULD certainly be handy for him later, when he needed an excuse to tote cameras everywhere and was already filming constantly.

Although to be fair, the location scouting thing COULD have been a very elaborate attempt to have someone else filming him while he stood in a spot he had suspicions about, so that later he could check the film for anomalies. Not dismissing one or the other, just a thought.

Then again if I told my friends, "hey, some weird crap happened out by this old climbing wall, come film me!" I am sure they'd be all for it without the need for an elaborate ruse. It does seem unnecessary.

Wouldn't it also, though, explain the random title that no one has figured out yet? Didn't J point out that Alex's house was full of bric-a-brac and he'd named the film after some item in the house that (supposedly) played a role in the plot? Was it that situation or was it a "uh, my name is Mr.... Door. Yes. Door. And this is my friend, Mr.... Tree. Yes, Mr. Tree" type of thing?


I'm not too sure about the theory either. Remember that in Entry 2, Alex links the first encounter with SM (that he can remember) with leaving the set of Marble Hornets after filming. If he was using the movie as a cover to film, he should have remembered seeing SM beforehand. Otherwise, he would have no motive to keep up the facade of filming MH.

That scenario would work with Memento logic: Alex realizes he MUST film in the forest for SM-related reasons, so he sets up a movie project in that location. The movie project would continue despite SM wiping his memory, putting Alex in a situation to continually encounter SM.

Actually, after writing that out it seems somewhat possible.

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