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gordon_ramsay
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Ok, strange thought.


What if the ARK that TTA refers to is the destruction of the tapes? I mean, those really are the only things that prevent SM from slipping back into anonymity.


(Yes, I realize this supports the TTA=SM theory, but truly, I haven't made up my mind as to who TTA is.)

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TheAtroxious
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Kilo wrote:
Alright, camera guy is TTA.

Camera guy doesn't seem brainfucked in the brief moments we see him. Gradual thing over time? Or is it an act?

I'm still convinced that SM and somebody are in a servant/master relationship. I guess that still could be SM/TTA, since neither have really revealed themselves to be malicious. Well, not yet anyway. Except for Alex going crazy, but that's more of a side effect thing.


I believed something like this initially. Rather, in my version that there was a power-play of some sort going on between TTA and SM, but I can't help but feel now that this is very unlikely, though that may have to do with the TTA=Camera Dude theory.

I guess that there's the SM/Tim servant/master theory. Something's wonky about Tim, that's for sure, and there seems to be rather...specialised distortion when he gets screentime. I'd not be so quick to write that one off myself.

Hah, wouldn't it be weird if everyone involve in MH had their own dealings with SM, but were all too paranoid to talk about it? It's a valid theory, though, I think.

Also, I would definitely agree that Blackshirt is Brian. There's a very similar body language and structure from what I can see. Call me convinced.

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Chammycham
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New twitter update!

Quote:
Going back to the house tomorrow.


http://twitter.com/marblehornets

(Yes, I've been lurking...)

PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:15 am
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BaronVonCakeman wrote:
"I wonder if, in Entry #12, there was something substantial or incriminating even that J decided to leave out. For the most part, J has a comment at the end of the clips he shows us, but not for Entry #12. totheark says "THEREWASM0RE" in Impurity; the response to Entry #12. Furthermore, I am convinced that whether or not it was caught on film, something must have happened, because Alex actually walks right up to Slender Man and tries to get him off the set. I don't imagine Alex saying "Hey buddy, we're filming here, would it be too much trouble if you were to go be creepy somewhere else?" to which Slender Man would reply "Oh! Frightfully sorry, old chap! I do believe I shall evacuate the premises immediately!".

The fact that totheark knew there was more alone doesn't imply that he/she was there that day. I knew there was more, and I wasn't there. But, the fact that he tells J (as opposed to one of us asking) that there was more implies that not only does he know J left something out that was on the tape, but that he/she was there."

Or the tape actually did cut out, and either J wasn't there or (like with Entry 17) he can't remember what happened that day because SM or someone else has wiped his memory. I wouldn't really blame this on impropriety on J's part so much as going back to the whole "J can't be trusted because he's human" thing.

Which is another thing - I'm thinking there's more to the "he's human so can't be trusted" remark than was let on. I think there's a good chance that's been a reference to SM's ability to wipe human memories all along.

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tedandhenry
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just my opinion.
but considering how small the cast is for MH, I'd assume that any character that appears would have some sort of importance. especially someone who has an argument and appears on screen with Alex. This is why I think Cameraman is TTA, among everything else everyone has said already.
I think the girl, will have something to do with it, soon, as well.

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eggopm3
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What if the cameraman is in cahoots with SM? He's either possessed by him or he can control him or something like that. So the reason the tape cuts off early in entries like #12 is cus the cameraman purposely stopped it. He knows all about SM and is trying to sabotage the production and the other people working on it.

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MrHawthorne
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Alright so time for MrHawthorne's new observations.

But before I delve in I got two questions.

1st: Did anyone try matching the Operator sound to the last 22 seconds of Entry 12? Any opinions on that?

2nd: I found something that's linked to Entry 2 and while I watched that Entry I got to wondering about Rocky the Dog. Who's dog is he? Where is he now? I think somebody must have asked J this, because I remember somebody saying something like that.

Now to my observations.

The video in Advocate is nowhere in the Entry #7. I wonder what this means...

Some more support for the Operator being CameraGuy:
The word Operator pops up in three places from totheark.

1: The Operator video in title.

2: The Anagram in Exit.

3: And faintly in Impurity.

Did anyone notice that the description of Impurity has 9 zeroes in it?
Pointing to Entry #9 maybe, where the CameraGuy is introduced.


The Operator Video has sound in it that I personally think is from Entry 12
where Alex found the Operator symbol on the ground, where totheark was filming J
in Exit in which the Anagram for The Operator (RAT, HE, ORE, TOP) flashes (which I think is just like a signature.
TTA saying, "Yeah I took this footage and this is who I am, The Operator.").

Anyway, I think that puts more fuel to the "CameraGuy is TTA" fire.

That's about it...for now.

EDIT: I think the oddest thing about Entry 12 just cuttting out is that J controls the cutting of the entries and J doesn't comment on the end of 12, which is weird.
It just cuts out with no explanation. That's the odd thing about 12, something the camera operator has nothing to do with. J doesn't even remark, "The tape just cuts out there".
There's no recording ending disruption. It's just end of video. I find it weird that J does this in some videos and not others.

He doesn't do it for, 6, 10, 11, 12, 13 and 15.

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BaronVonCakeman
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MrHawthorne wrote:
Alright so time for MrHawthorne's new observations.

But before I delve in I got two questions.

1st: Did anyone try matching the Operator sound to the last 22 seconds of Entry 12? Any opinions on that?

2nd: I found something that's linked to Entry 2 and while I watched that Entry I got to wondering about Rocky the Dog. Who's dog is he? Where is he now? I think somebody must have asked J this, because I remember somebody saying something like that.

Now to my observations.

The video in Advocate is nowhere in the Entry #7. I wonder what this means...

Some more support for the Operator being CameraGuy:
The word Operator pops up in three places from totheark.

1: The Operator video in title.

2: The Anagram in Exit.

3: And faintly in Impurity.

Did anyone notice that the description of Impurity has 9 zeroes in it?
Pointing to Entry #9 maybe, where the CameraGuy is introduced.


The Operator Video has sound in it that I personally think is from Entry 12
where Alex found the Operator symbol on the ground, where totheark was filming J
in Exit in which the Anagram for The Operator (RAT, HE, ORE, TOP) flashes (which I think is just like a signature.
TTA saying, "Yeah I took this footage and this is who I am, The Operator.").

Anyway, I think that puts more fuel to the "CameraGuy is TTA" fire.

That's about it...for now.

EDIT: I think the oddest thing about Entry 12 just cuttting out is that J controls the cutting of the entries and J doesn't comment on the end of 12, which is weird.
It just cuts out with no explanation. That's the odd thing about 12, something the camera operator has nothing to do with. J doesn't even remark, "The tape just cuts out there".
There's no recording ending disruption. It's just end of video. I find it weird that J does this in some videos and not others.

He doesn't do it for, 6, 10, 11, 12, 13 and 15.


That's exactly my point. Totheark says "THEREWASM0RE" because there HAD to have been more, because something happened. Whatever happened with that Entry, I do not believe the camera was shut off, or at least, was not supposed to have been (like the idea that the Camera Guy shut it off on purpose for some reason).

The reason I'm more inclined to believe J left out something for whatever reason (maybe too disturbing, maybe he thought it irrelevant somehow, maybe by accident) is because totheark said there was more, probably meaning there was more on the tape.

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The Last Gent
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New theory regarding THEREWASMORE:

TTA either has immunity against the SM memory loss, or else he just saw the complete and unedited tapes. Someone, likely Alex, edited them while under the influence of SM, and he has no evidence of it.


Also, I think we've discovered SM's motivation for following Alex. He's some kind of supernatural panhandler:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acBnEHT-fBo

PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:43 pm
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Kilo
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Alright, new train of thought. I'm still working on a servant/master thing, in case anybody is wondering.

Anyway, if TTA was the cameraman (Which seems feasible)... why would he want to point out himself? I think the cameraman is significant in a way, but I'm starting to doubt that he's TTA himself. It could potentially explain a lot, but it doesn't make any sense to me (Not like much else about this shindig does). I think that the camera man is an important player in all this, but isn't TTA.

My prediction on how this will climax:

Cameraman/SM are somehow linked, somewhat malevolently. TTA is a neutral party in all this. Alex was the victim of some grand conspiracy that TTA is trying to lead J to (And possibly led Alex to, and then SM brainfucked him)

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marcopolo
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cameraman

(delurking)
just read 129 pp of discussion on here. apologies if this has already been brought up--i should have seen it if so, but that was a lot of text!

the icon that alex drew on slenderman's face, and the icon seen on the ground--the oval w/cross through it. doesn't it remind anyone of a camera viewfinder or rifle scope?

you know, crosshairs?
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&um=1&sa=1&q=crosshairs&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g10&start=0

that would seem to implicate the cameraman guy in this somehow. not that he's slenderman, but that he's involved with this idea of camera being a predatory tool, that there's a similarity to a camera and a gun and the "eyes" of a monster.

that's all i gots.

(relurking)

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iunno about crosshairs..
they're normally vertical/horzontal, not diagonal

and random thought- maybe SM is the one who is the servant int eh master/servant relationship? o.O

though still no proof of the relationship, or any inkling as to the other participant, if it exists..

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A master is usually a higher power than the servant, no?

Again, dragging the story back to the Trilby games... The Chzo...

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GrimBloodyFable
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Re: cameraman

marcopolo wrote:
(delurking)
just read 129 pp of discussion on here. apologies if this has already been brought up--i should have seen it if so, but that was a lot of text!

the icon that alex drew on slenderman's face, and the icon seen on the ground--the oval w/cross through it. doesn't it remind anyone of a camera viewfinder or rifle scope?

you know, crosshairs?
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&um=1&sa=1&q=crosshairs&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g10&start=0

that would seem to implicate the cameraman guy in this somehow. not that he's slenderman, but that he's involved with this idea of camera being a predatory tool, that there's a similarity to a camera and a gun and the "eyes" of a monster.

that's all i gots.

(relurking)


This makes sense. As in, the symbol represents crosshairs and the camera is a weapon against Slendy? Yeah, I see where you're coming from, but Alex made the operator symbols, not Cameradude. Nice thought, though.

Also, I vote we give a name to the camera dude. All who votes we call him 'Cameron', say aye.

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madebz
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Re: cameraman

GrimBloodyFable wrote:
marcopolo wrote:
(delurking)
just read 129 pp of discussion on here. apologies if this has already been brought up--i should have seen it if so, but that was a lot of text!

the icon that alex drew on slenderman's face, and the icon seen on the ground--the oval w/cross through it. doesn't it remind anyone of a camera viewfinder or rifle scope?

you know, crosshairs?
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&um=1&sa=1&q=crosshairs&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g10&start=0

that would seem to implicate the cameraman guy in this somehow. not that he's slenderman, but that he's involved with this idea of camera being a predatory tool, that there's a similarity to a camera and a gun and the "eyes" of a monster.

that's all i gots.

(relurking)


This makes sense. As in, the symbol represents crosshairs and the camera is a weapon against Slendy? Yeah, I see where you're coming from, but Alex made the operator symbols, not Cameradude. Nice thought, though.

Also, I vote we give a name to the camera dude. All who votes we call him 'Cameron', say aye.


I thought Alex found the operator symbol at Entry #13. He didn't create it. Just started copying it \ using it for SM face.

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