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Didz
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Could the sound distortion be from the camera lying on the floor? Where is the mic on the camera? If it's on the side that the camera fell on would it muffle it?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:21 pm
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Fenrirwulf
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While we don't have any concrete proof that the Slender Man can manipulate memories, we do have some circumstantial evidence.

-Slender Man was around, in entry #17, where J has no recollection in the slightest. Slender Man was also nearby in entry #13, where his memory was admittedly blurry.

-Alex was filming himself and we're left to assume that it was at a nearly non-stop basis. We have records of Alex taping himself driving, sitting at his computer, and even shopping - there's likely in game footage of him eating, using the restroom, showering, etc. But that -isn't- important to the story.

-On the Something Awful forums, there's a lot of talk about how he can effect people's minds. People "reporting" how they drew him years ago and entirely forgot, how they saw him as a child and the thread triggered it, how he can control people and the like. While I realize a good deal of you say that its out of game, we -have- to take in to consideration that this series was dropped in that thread. J could have as easily started a new thread, saying "hey, this Slender Man stuff is reminding me of something..." Instead, he posted it on that particular thread. And it is a -shared- mythos.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:28 pm
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I couldn't hear EFG say "boo", even with my computer volume all the way up. I think I can hear what sounds like a breath or whisper, though - is that it?

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Didz
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SweetHat wrote:
I couldn't hear EFG say "boo", even with my computer volume all the way up. I think I can hear what sounds like a breath or whisper, though - is that it?


That's what I heard too. I couldn't hear the boo.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:30 pm
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BaronVonCakeman
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Yeah, that breath is it. It sounds a bit like boo, and it's in the proper place for it to have come from EFG to alert J to his presence, so I'm gonna go ahead and assume he did in fact say "boo".

As for the distortion, no. It started when EFG attacked J, not when he was on the floor.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:32 pm
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Didz
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BaronVonCakeman wrote:
Yeah, that breath is it. It sounds a bit like boo, and it's in the proper place for it to have come from EFG to alert J to his presence, so I'm gonna go ahead and assume he did in fact say "boo".

As for the distortion, no. It started when EFG attacked J, not when he was on the floor.


ah, wasn't sure it started when Masky attacked J.

Has anyone managed to clear up the audio?

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AxMxK
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The idea that Alex was filming himself constantly because HIS memory was failing just occurred to me.

J is beginning to suffer from the same symptoms.

This memory distortion and recording device distortion may be part of Slender Man's natural defense mechanisms, helping him remain obscure and mysterious.

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Fenrirwulf wrote:
While we don't have any concrete proof that the Slender Man can manipulate memories, we do have some circumstantial evidence.

-Slender Man was around, in entry #17, where J has no recollection in the slightest. Slender Man was also nearby in entry #13, where his memory was admittedly blurry.

-Alex was filming himself and we're left to assume that it was at a nearly non-stop basis. We have records of Alex taping himself driving, sitting at his computer, and even shopping - there's likely in game footage of him eating, using the restroom, showering, etc. But that -isn't- important to the story.

-On the Something Awful forums, there's a lot of talk about how he can effect people's minds. People "reporting" how they drew him years ago and entirely forgot, how they saw him as a child and the thread triggered it, how he can control people and the like. While I realize a good deal of you say that its out of game, we -have- to take in to consideration that this series was dropped in that thread. J could have as easily started a new thread, saying "hey, this Slender Man stuff is reminding me of something..." Instead, he posted it on that particular thread. And it is a -shared- mythos.


Don't forget one of the pages J took from the house the last time he was there said: Forget What I See

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blue5213
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Two2teps: We can at least agree that SM is doing something to Masky's brain that is severely affecting his actions, right? To me, the idea of SM mind-controlling people is less interesting/relevant/important than the idea/evidence that even mere knowledge of SM's existence can have/has brutal effects on people's minds.

I still think there's something to EFG (what does that stand for?) basically announcing his presence to J, then just sitting there and staring at him for a few seconds before attacking. He didn't ambush J, which he easily could have. He waited until J saw him, then attacked him. That's got to be significant.

A big part of the whole forgotten/repressed memories thing on SA is that memories of Slender Man are just so horribly tramautic that he's constantly forced to the back of the mind by anyone who encounters him-even if he doesn't actually do anything to them. In that way, it may be an unintentional side effect of his existence, rather than something SM is doing on purpose.

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Two2teps
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blue5213 wrote:
Two2teps: We can at least agree that SM is doing something to Masky's brain that is severely affecting his actions, right? To me, the idea of SM mind-controlling people is less interesting/relevant/important than the idea/evidence that even mere knowledge of SM's existence can have/has brutal effects on people's minds.

I still think there's something to EFG (what does that stand for?) basically announcing his presence to J, then just sitting there and staring at him for a few seconds before attacking. He didn't ambush J, which he easily could have. He waited until J saw him, then attacked him. That's got to be significant.

A big part of the whole forgotten/repressed memories thing on SA is that memories of Slender Man are just so horribly traumatic that he's constantly forced to the back of the mind by anyone who encounters him-even if he doesn't actually do anything to them. In that way, it may be an unintentional side effect of his existence, rather than something SM is doing on purpose.


Agreed, hes definitely effecting peoples behavior either directly or indirectly in a negative way. EFG = Epic Fail Guy, someone earlier in this thread said that, I guess because his grand attacked failed due a case of the Slender Man Shakes.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:02 pm
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dopeopleguest
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Slender Man and Mind Alteration and Control 101 =3

tetsuyabh wrote:
blue5213 wrote:
Come on. We have very solid evidence Slender Man can mess with people's heads.


No, we don't. If you really think there is solid evidence, please, supply it. And please, no speculation.


Not sure if this was cleared up but let's go over what has lead me to believe SM messes with peoples mind.

Now, the orginial myth goes along the lines that he hypnotizes people (mostly children) into just walking into him and him consuming or doing whatever a SM does.

-In the Marble Hornet world we see memory lose, a sign that something is messing with the mind. J can't even remember the taping of entry 17, which goes to show you that SM has a great degree of controlling memories

-Also, in entry 18 we see a clear sign of a seizure by EFG (confirmed by J in an effort to debunk the stabbing theory). I don't know much about the brain but a seizure is sure as hell isn't caused by the spleen or the heart. Along with this incite into EFG, I can only conclude that SM was the master of the puppet. If SM wasn't controlling him, I believe that after the seizure he wouldn't have just pushed J off, I seems impossible that he could click back into reality that fast with out the aid of a supernatural being or ability.

-Along with this we have had J blacking out multiple times throughout this entire thing. I can say, without risk of looking like a dolt, that SM is in fact messing with people's minds within Marble Hornets.

The theory of mind control on TTA's end I am not sure but I rather assume that every character in this story is affected by SM and therefore we will never really know the full truth unless someone (like TTA) has some how escaped from this effect. With that said, I believe J has be compromised from the beginning. The instant he saw SM in the first clip, SM became a very real thing for J, messing with him and the fact might be that SM is just using J to get to everyone else involved in ssolving it **chills**

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Didz
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ok so why don't we all give some in put about what we DO know about the characters? Stuff thats been proved with the videos, not speculation.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:07 pm
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Future Sith
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Didz wrote:
ok so why don't we all give some in put about what we DO know about the characters? Stuff thats been proved with the videos, not speculation.


I agree, this topic is getting nowhere. All I see are pages and pages of rampant speculation that's really counter-productive. We need to go back to the facts, things we know that have been shown in either the videos or through J's responses to our messages we've been sending him. I have a hard time believing that, after eighteen entries and a handful of TTA responses, we have no way of figuring out anything about what's going on. There has to be something we're not seeing. We've got to look at this a different way.

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Didz
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I believe I'm on a roll tonight Very Happy lol.

So do we stick it in this thread or create a new thread about the facts?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:35 pm
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MrHawthorne
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Stuff We Know

Confirmed Characters:
Alex
J
Brian
Tim
Sarah
CameraGuy
TTA
Slenderman

There's distortions to the videos including:
Visual Tearing
Visual Bleeding
Visual Color Change
Absent Sound
Sound Warping
Sound Muffling
(A list of of which videos have this distortion and what was happening during them might be helpful, we could probably compile that from what's on the wiki)

Alex's mood has changed in multiple videos. Sometimes he's balanced, other times irritable, other times extremely paranoid. He once had a clip of him with blood running down his face but what caused this is unknown. That was the first sign of a physical attack.

J has had more physical ailments. He's currently sick but its undetectable by a doctor. In Entry 17 he was cold. At one point in Entry 5 he coughed (but that doesn't mean he was sick then). He's lost chunks of his memory on multiple occasions.

Words that could be made out on the papers:
Sees
Sees Me
Finds Me
Speaks To Me
Tree
Trees
Hi
"Hel(unfinished)"
Kills Me
Operator
Forget What I See
(Unreadable) These Pines
Don't Run
Run Away

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