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TNC
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Shaoken wrote:
TNC wrote:
Did someone say porch?

I foresaw this argument, and trust me, sir, I did my research.

There is no video evidence to support your statement. A porch is not filmed, because J does not film the area surrounding the door. Neither is the upper part of the door ever filmed. There is no photographic proof that this is a different house.

I await hard, cold evidence.


There is logical proof though;

WHY THE **** WOULD J NEED A TIP TO LOOK FOR ALEX IN HIS OWN ******** HOUSE? [/mock explosive outburst]

Seriously though, it doesn't make sense that J would need a tip to find Alex's house, especially considering that A) he knew Alex well and B) when he started looking for Alex it would have been the first place he would check.

Besides, you haven't really shown any evidence that they are the same house. Alex looks out his first story window at Slender Man (seriously look at the angle, SM does NOT look up), whereas we don't see a front door in the second house.

Sorry dude, you're not making sense.


Several possible reasons.

Because it's not Alex's house.

Because it could be Brian's house.

Because J didn't know where Brian was.

Because the anonymous tip was the location of Brian's place.

J would assume Alex might be there because of Entry 1/6, in Entry 3 Alex is clearly not in the same place as in 16 and 18, but it's still entirely possible that 16/18 and 1/6 are the same house.

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TNC
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TNC wrote:
Shaoken wrote:
TNC wrote:
Did someone say porch?

I foresaw this argument, and trust me, sir, I did my research.

There is no video evidence to support your statement. A porch is not filmed, because J does not film the area surrounding the door. Neither is the upper part of the door ever filmed. There is no photographic proof that this is a different house.

I await hard, cold evidence.


There is logical proof though;

WHY THE **** WOULD J NEED A TIP TO LOOK FOR ALEX IN HIS OWN ******** HOUSE? [/mock explosive outburst]

Seriously though, it doesn't make sense that J would need a tip to find Alex's house, especially considering that A) he knew Alex well and B) when he started looking for Alex it would have been the first place he would check.

Besides, you haven't really shown any evidence that they are the same house. Alex looks out his first story window at Slender Man (seriously look at the angle, SM does NOT look up), whereas we don't see a front door in the second house.

Sorry dude, you're not making sense.


Several possible reasons.

Because it's not Alex's house.

Because it could be Brian's house.

Because J didn't know where Brian was.

Because the anonymous tip was the location of Brian's place.

J would assume Alex might be there because of Entry 1/6, in Entry 3 Alex is clearly not in the same place as in 16 and 18, but it's still entirely possible that 16/18 and 1/6 are the same house.


Also: I did show that there is a window by the front door with which Alex could have peaked through in Entry 6; However, there is no evidence to support that Alex was looking out the front door in Entry 1, either. As we never see a door. In fact... My uncle has a rather large house. The "porch" you claim to see in Entry 1 is nothing more than a railing and a walkway, which, on my uncle's house, leads from the side of the main house down to a guest house or shed farther down the property. Easy to miss in the dark.

Don't start throwing "mock" expletives my way when I'm trying to explore all venues of possibility, rather than discredit things based on speculation. Speculation should put all options on the table, not half-assedly throw them away.

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 		Just going through some of the entries again, and I noticed that in #16, J unlocks a door (somewhere between 5:00 and 5:24), but doesn't go through it. I'm pretty sure that's the front door.
Was this mentioned before? I remember reading somewhere that a lot people considered it strange when J left through the front door at the end of the entry, but can't remember if anyone noticed this.

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Kilo
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 		It's not terribly strange. In fact, it may be the only moment J was actually thinking in his whole escapade to the house. It's always best to have multiple exits available, anywhere.

Either that, or the front door gets him back to his car faster, which seems totally plausible as well.

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Kilo wrote:
It's not terribly strange. In fact, it may be the only moment J was actually thinking in his whole escapade to the house. It's always best to have multiple exits available, anywhere.

Either that, or the front door gets him back to his car faster, which seems totally plausible as well.

I think you might have misunderstood me. What I meant was, a lot of people mentioned that the front door was locked at the start, but when J left it was unlocked.
I'm not entirely sure, but I think a lot of people attributed the door being unlocked to totheark.
I couldn't remember if anyone pointed out that J unlocked the door himself, so I posted my previous post.

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Kilo
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 		Oh, OK. Gotcha.

By the way, if Mask is/was TTA, I'm gonna be unbelievably pissed. Just an FYI.

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Brados
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Kilo wrote:
Oh, OK. Gotcha.

By the way, if Mask is/was TTA, I'm gonna be unbelievably pissed. Just an FYI.


why's that?
i'd actually prefer it if masky was TTA
i like the idea of TTA being out to get J
it makes the videos alot more creepy, which essentially i believe they were made for.

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Kilo
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 		Well, I want answers. And I think TTA has them. But if TTA is planning on being a god damned creeper and hanging out in decrepit buildings and attacking people, we probably won't get those.

And SM doesn't like to talk.

So.

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Tyran
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Brados wrote:
Kilo wrote:
Oh, OK. Gotcha.

By the way, if Mask is/was TTA, I'm gonna be unbelievably pissed. Just an FYI.


why's that?
i'd actually prefer it if masky was TTA
i like the idea of TTA being out to get J
it makes the videos alot more creepy, which essentially i believe they were made for.


That'd be nice, but Signal and Addition seemed to be a request to talk to J if anything else, even if they were insanely creepy.

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TheNightmareComplex wrote:
gonzaw wrote:
RedBlade2021 wrote:
Entries 1, 3, 6, 8, 11, 14, 16, 17, and 18 are all shot in the same house.

Trust me on this one, you can see similar factors in all of them.


As said before, entries 1/6 have windows beside the front door and have those semicircle kind of windows above it I think..
11 and 16/18 aren't the same house since the layout of the floor below the bedroom in both of them is different, and the room that would include the trash cans in 16 in fact is kind of a small studio in 11.
3 and 8 have wooden-patterned walls which don't fit with entries 11/14 or 16/18, but I think they might with entries 1/6.

So you would have 3 different houses.

House 1: Entries #1,3,6,8
House 2:Entries #11,14
House 3:Entries #16, 18

There are parts of house 2 we didn't see and it was way too dark, so hosue 2 and house 1 may be the same one.
And Entry #17 could belong to any of them, since all houses contain windows on the second floor (in entry 16 the window he sees is in fact the one from the room behind the locked door blocked by the red chest, unless that door helds a hallway with more rooms).


Erebus wrote:
The house in entry 1 had a window on the front door...in 16 and 18 there was no window on the door.


Science disagrees.


Entry 1 had a window somewhere above the first floor, as Alex looks DOWN on Slender Man, who then looks UP to see Alex.

In Entry 6, Alex makes his way around the door and looks out the window, towards the front of the house, where Slender Man is now standing.

And... What do we see in the beginning of Entry 16?

HWA-BAM, SON!



Look at 0:20 of Entry #6, there are those semicircle kind of windows above the (supposed) front door.
Where do you see those in entry 16/18?

TheAtroxious wrote:
Way to be unnecessarily convoluted. You forget that these guys are college students. I don't think it would be either viable or convenient to use three to four houses, and trash two of then quite thoroughly.

No, I think that we have far too little evidence either way to decide on the house thing. They may very well be using the same house because it's the one they have the most access to, and the one whose owners don't mind it being turned into a complete fucking mess for a while. Alternately, it could be Alex's house in-game, supported by the fact that J called out "Alex" when he entered, or countered by the fact that J seems like the sort who would have made mention that it was Alex's house somewhere.

But really, for those who think it's a completely different house, he was probably going around to different sides of the house. Side and back doors for two videos, and front door for the shot with the porch.


Of course it could be a giant mansion of some of the MH guys which OOG is used for every house...

Yet, In-game those "part of the mansion" showed in each different entry have nothing in common, which assuming in-game Alex's house (or where he was staying) wasn't that before-mentioned mansion (and his IG house is a normal one) we can say that IG they are different houses.


However, the mansion theory seems kind of unplausible to me, meaning they could well use 2-3 different houses which would belong to any of the guys in this production.

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 		Why J Needs Directions to Alex's House
Oh yes.
This is responding to the post that asked, why would J need directions to look in Alex's house to look for Alex?

I have two reasons:

1) He got the address, but didn't know Alex's home address off the top of his head. When he got there, he realized that it was Alex's but just went, "o wel lol" and broke in.

2) He had been there to look for Alex previously, and had knocked politely on the door and no one answered, so he, like a sane human being, left. He gets tipped off to go back to the house and knocks again; now that he "knows" he is in there and is possibly slipping further into madness, he breaks in.

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 		Look, guys.

The reason J knew something was up was because the tip said that Brian could be found at Alex's house. When J saw this, he realized that, seeing as he never told anyone Alex's address, this person must know something about the incidents. Also, he was really looking for Alex, as was very clearly stated at the end of Entry 14.
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TNC
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gonzaw wrote:
TheNightmareComplex wrote:
gonzaw wrote:
RedBlade2021 wrote:
Entries 1, 3, 6, 8, 11, 14, 16, 17, and 18 are all shot in the same house.

Trust me on this one, you can see similar factors in all of them.


As said before, entries 1/6 have windows beside the front door and have those semicircle kind of windows above it I think..
11 and 16/18 aren't the same house since the layout of the floor below the bedroom in both of them is different, and the room that would include the trash cans in 16 in fact is kind of a small studio in 11.
3 and 8 have wooden-patterned walls which don't fit with entries 11/14 or 16/18, but I think they might with entries 1/6.

So you would have 3 different houses.

House 1: Entries #1,3,6,8
House 2:Entries #11,14
House 3:Entries #16, 18

There are parts of house 2 we didn't see and it was way too dark, so hosue 2 and house 1 may be the same one.
And Entry #17 could belong to any of them, since all houses contain windows on the second floor (in entry 16 the window he sees is in fact the one from the room behind the locked door blocked by the red chest, unless that door helds a hallway with more rooms).


Erebus wrote:
The house in entry 1 had a window on the front door...in 16 and 18 there was no window on the door.


Science disagrees.


Entry 1 had a window somewhere above the first floor, as Alex looks DOWN on Slender Man, who then looks UP to see Alex.

In Entry 6, Alex makes his way around the door and looks out the window, towards the front of the house, where Slender Man is now standing.

And... What do we see in the beginning of Entry 16?

HWA-BAM, SON!



Look at 0:20 of Entry #6, there are those semicircle kind of windows above the (supposed) front door.
Where do you see those in entry 16/18?

TheAtroxious wrote:
Way to be unnecessarily convoluted. You forget that these guys are college students. I don't think it would be either viable or convenient to use three to four houses, and trash two of then quite thoroughly.

No, I think that we have far too little evidence either way to decide on the house thing. They may very well be using the same house because it's the one they have the most access to, and the one whose owners don't mind it being turned into a complete fucking mess for a while. Alternately, it could be Alex's house in-game, supported by the fact that J called out "Alex" when he entered, or countered by the fact that J seems like the sort who would have made mention that it was Alex's house somewhere.

But really, for those who think it's a completely different house, he was probably going around to different sides of the house. Side and back doors for two videos, and front door for the shot with the porch.


Of course it could be a giant mansion of some of the MH guys which OOG is used for every house...

Yet, In-game those "part of the mansion" showed in each different entry have nothing in common, which assuming in-game Alex's house (or where he was staying) wasn't that before-mentioned mansion (and his IG house is a normal one) we can say that IG they are different houses.


However, the mansion theory seems kind of unplausible to me, meaning they could well use 2-3 different houses which would belong to any of the guys in this production.



For the four millionth time, the top of the door is never shown in Entry 16 or 18. That means I don't have proof that this is the same house, but you don't have proof it's a different one.

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Sirdangolot5 wrote:
Look, guys.

The reason J knew something was up was because the tip said that Brian could be found at Alex's house. When J saw this, he realized that, seeing as he never told anyone Alex's address, this person must know something about the incidents. Also, he was really looking for Alex, as was very clearly stated at the end of Entry 14.



This scenario is so plausible, it makes my face hurt from the smiling.

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 		bored of the massive quote combo, but, at the moment, it doesn;t really matter either way if the house is alex's or not
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