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Signed up so I could address one issue I just noticed. I havent been paying attention to the trailhead lately so I'm unsure if this was noticed. In 17 Tim's heads' shadow is really weird and pixelish. However his bodys' shadow is completely normal. Could be an effect of the camera or another hint.

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Another newbie here. I really think Messages is ToT's way of telling J to talk to Tim again. Consider his last video, Signal, which most everyone thinks meant ToT wanted J to go back to the house. That's exactly what J did, too. So I think he's basically guiding J to the truth. And the next step to the truth is, apparently, talking to Tim. He must know something.

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Kind of obvious two-and-two adding up thing that I just figured out. So Masky fell and seized for a few seconds, right? Maybe the pills that J found the first time he went to the house belong to Masky.

Whose pills were those?

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dystopiate wrote:
Shaoken wrote:
Six wrote:
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tetsuyabh wrote:
I posted this is the "Messages" thread, but just to cover bases, I'll post it here, too:

It says "Smile for the camera" because Tim is an actor.

The face is definitely Tim's, debate over.


No, it's not. The TTA face has no sideburns, is showing teeth and has a different v-neck style shirt. The only similarities between the two is that the head is on a similar angle, and that proves nothing.



The sideburns ARE there.

And are you saying Tim just DOESN'T HAVE TEETH? Why does the fact that he's showing his teeth in one picture and not another complete derail this???


Because the whole arguement is based on the fact that the one still shot of Tim perfectly matches TTA's photo. I'm pointing out that they don't completely match.

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I'm sorry but "that V Neck is 2 cm lower and the slope of the brow is 2 degrees steeper" type arguments are just actually making me lost complete faith in people here.


The whole arguement that it is Tim boils down to the idea that the photo is taken from entry #17. I'm just pointing out that it is a completely different photo with no visible sideburns or hair. Not saying that they aren't there, just that the contrast on the photo as rendered them completely invisible.

Granted your side-by-side comparison does look similar, but the TTA photo is kinda hard to make out, and it cut out the most distinctive features. I'm not sure I like the idea of it being Tim since it seems to just be a pointless curve ball, but we'll see how J reacts.


Uh uh, Six is right. I'm a portrait artist as well, and that is definitely the same person. Also, the guy that did the original comparison took a still from entry 17. If you took a screenshot 2 seconds later, Tim would be at a different angle. Just because that one particular frame doesn't match up perfectly does not mean that another frame wouldn't. However, I for one am not going to go through the video frame by frame to find it.

Also, though it's hard to figure much out before this next entry comes out (I have the feeling it's going to be pretty important), I wonder if this latest vid was a threat from ToT. Perhaps he's letting us know that J knows more than he is telling us (as has been theorized) and is saying to J, "tell them more, or something is going to happen to Tim". "Smile for the camera" seems threatening to me. Granted, I'm not quite sure if I believe this theory myself, but it popped into my head and I figured I'd let it be heard.


I didn't think of that. TTA is threatening J for more information? That seems possible. But I still like the idea that Tim has some information that he hasn't told J. Though, J's position as a trustful narrator has been challenged before, especially when he has control of what he wants us to see and his memory loss.

Oh, and ToT? That's a weird name....I like TTA, To The Ark...

ToT = First three letters?

@above

Lol, yeah someone said J stole Masky's meds Razz someone mentioned that J replied to a question asking about the meds, and he said he was going to post it in a video or something.

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I like the idea of TTA threatening/demanding more info from someone. But, I think that TTA already knows what's been hidden anyways. I imagine that he already knows most of this anyways. I see this "You have been keeping secrets" as more of a calling out, maybe on our behalf. Kinda like a confrontation. Whether he's threatening J with Tim's safety to tell us more, or pointing J in Tim's direction, I'm not sure.
Either way, I think that TTA at least has a good idea as to what's being hidden.

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Nonmetals Nerd wrote:
I'm going to just bail on the Marble Hornets thing.

If you -- like me -- decide to just wait it out and watch everything together at the end once it's all said and done, I don't think you'll be missing anything.


I wish i could stop watching and wait til the end but the series is so interesting that i have to check youtube every week.

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Okay, been lurking for a few weeks, registered to post this since I couldn't find it already mentioned,

Should it actually be Tim at the end of Messages, and no one can find a frame that matches up perfectly, wouldn't that mean that it would be from excess footage that did not get edited together? And since it was Alex making this movie, it is just one more thing that points to Alex being TTA

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JohnOmega wrote:
Okay, been lurking for a few weeks, registered to post this since I couldn't find it already mentioned,

Should it actually be Tim at the end of Messages, and no one can find a frame that matches up perfectly, wouldn't that mean that it would be from excess footage that did not get edited together? And since it was Alex making this movie, it is just one more thing that points to Alex being TTA

Yeah, it would have to be from some other source. Possibly from the in-game raw footage of MH, or something from Alex's videos.

Edit: Or, if TTA kidnapped Timmy-boy and is holding him, could be recently taken.

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JohnOmega wrote:
Should it actually be Tim at the end of Messages, and no one can find a frame that matches up perfectly, wouldn't that mean that it would be from excess footage that did not get edited together? And since it was Alex making this movie, it is just one more thing that points to Alex being TTA


Interesting point made on additional footage (or footage as yet unseen by us). Based on the data I've collected here I've assumed some of the audio from TTA's clips are actually missing audio from J's clips.

This raises the question where was (and is) the Unknown Camera Operator while all these happenings are taking place? Seems logical he would have at some stage had access to the original footage which might explain why it has been appearing in TTA's clips. [?]

As for TTA = Alex? I suspect it's a little too early to jump to this conclusion just yet.

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Maybe the message isn't to Tim maybe it's to J. Maybe in the video he showed the picture to say "Hey remember that thing about Tim you didn't talk about? Yeah, I know." That or it could just be a picture that only J would recognize... Confused

edit: also more water stuff involved here cuz of the boat. also noticed in entry 16, the second J picks up the water bottle to examine it the video tears, then right when he puts it down it stops Shocked

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Uh uh, Six is right. I'm a portrait artist as well, and that is definitely the same person. Also, the guy that did the original comparison took a still from entry 17. If you took a screenshot 2 seconds later, Tim would be at a different angle. Just because that one particular frame doesn't match up perfectly does not mean that another frame wouldn't. However, I for one am not going to go through the video frame by frame to find it.


Oh GOD I could hug you.

A thought: I thought maybe perhaps the TTA video was taking a bit because the OOG creators were waiting for it to rain, as lots of TTA videos are taken during the rain, near water, reference water, etc. However, I think maybe the symbolism of the ship is just nothing more than a reference to arks/ships/water. Maybe the creators were simply like "Fuck, it's not gunna rain for a while...we need water, and creepy/cryptic."

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Oi.

Everyday someone new posts saying something like "Oh hi guys I've been following since the beginning and I was just wondering did anybody notice that thing you all had a huge discussion/debate over about 10 pages back?" If you were following, you probably would have noticed it had already been dismissed/addressed.

Also, we discover something that's pretty much fact (due to the nature of this story, nothing is 100% fact, but a lot becomes obvious enough that debating it is like beating a dead horse), and people dispute it, either because they don't like it, or they don't get it. This face thing at the end of Messages is a good example of this; it's Tim. Get over it. It doesn't necessarily mean that totheark is Tim, so nothing is ruined, and you are defending nothing. A lot of energy is being wasted on pointless arguments. "Hey guys, you're all wrong; Slender Man's tie is blue, not black." Let's not forget about the "robots theory". Ugh.

That being said, Messages seems to be a message (ha) to J, telling him that Tim's messages (ha) in Entry #15 were either lies or misleading or both. This is the water thing all over again. They seem to be shoving it down our throats that Tim has more to do with this than was previously thought.

Tim is acting suspicious (as I previously stated long ago) in Entry #15, his face gets blurred out in Entry #17, and now he's in totheark's Messages video. The fact that Tim's face gets blurred the way it does due to Slender Man's presence seems to indicate (to me, at least) that he's connected to Slender Man somehow, maybe more so than totheark.

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BaronVonCakeman wrote:
Oi.

Everyday someone new posts saying something like "Oh hi guys I've been following since the beginning and I was just wondering did anybody notice that thing you all had a huge discussion/debate over about 10 pages back?" If you were following, you probably would have noticed it had already been dismissed/addressed.

Also, we discover something that's pretty much fact (due to the nature of this story, nothing is 100% fact, but a lot becomes obvious enough that debating it is like beating a dead horse), and people dispute it, either because they don't like it, or they don't get it. This face thing at the end of Messages is a good example of this; it's Tim. Get over it. It doesn't necessarily mean that totheark is Tim, so nothing is ruined, and you are defending nothing. A lot of energy is being wasted on pointless arguments. "Hey guys, you're all wrong; Slender Man's tie is blue, not black." Let's not forget about the "robots theory". Ugh.

That being said, Messages seems to be a message (ha) to J, telling him that Tim's messages (ha) in Entry #15 were either lies or misleading or both. This is the water thing all over again. They seem to be shoving it down our throats that Tim has more to do with this than was previously thought.

Tim is acting suspicious (as I previously stated long ago) in Entry #15, his face gets blurred out in Entry #17, and now he's in totheark's Messages video. The fact that Tim's face gets blurred the way it does due to Slender Man's presence seems to indicate (to me, at least) that he's connected to Slender Man somehow, maybe more so than totheark.


Well, i'm gonna be the ass here and say:

Unless you're someone in the MH ARg, you cannot tell anyone 100% that it's tim. Get over it. Sure, the evidence does seem to point to Tim, but nobody can say that for sure until either J or TTA tell us it is.

Having said that, the whole entry 15 and tim's blurred face in 17 does indicate that Tim knows more than he is saying. It would be wise for J to follow up on this lead.

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From the way that you can see the white bars on the edge of the photo at the end, for some reason I got the impression that it was a picture taken from a yearbook or something like that... Although, to be fair, people usually smile a bit more than that in their yearbook photos.

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gordon_ramsay wrote:
BaronVonCakeman wrote:
Oi.

Everyday someone new posts saying something like "Oh hi guys I've been following since the beginning and I was just wondering did anybody notice that thing you all had a huge discussion/debate over about 10 pages back?" If you were following, you probably would have noticed it had already been dismissed/addressed.

Also, we discover something that's pretty much fact (due to the nature of this story, nothing is 100% fact, but a lot becomes obvious enough that debating it is like beating a dead horse), and people dispute it, either because they don't like it, or they don't get it. This face thing at the end of Messages is a good example of this; it's Tim. Get over it. It doesn't necessarily mean that totheark is Tim, so nothing is ruined, and you are defending nothing. A lot of energy is being wasted on pointless arguments. "Hey guys, you're all wrong; Slender Man's tie is blue, not black." Let's not forget about the "robots theory". Ugh.

That being said, Messages seems to be a message (ha) to J, telling him that Tim's messages (ha) in Entry #15 were either lies or misleading or both. This is the water thing all over again. They seem to be shoving it down our throats that Tim has more to do with this than was previously thought.

Tim is acting suspicious (as I previously stated long ago) in Entry #15, his face gets blurred out in Entry #17, and now he's in totheark's Messages video. The fact that Tim's face gets blurred the way it does due to Slender Man's presence seems to indicate (to me, at least) that he's connected to Slender Man somehow, maybe more so than totheark.


Well, i'm gonna be the ass here and say:

Unless you're someone in the MH ARg, you cannot tell anyone 100% that it's tim. Get over it. Sure, the evidence does seem to point to Tim, but nobody can say that for sure until either J or TTA tell us it is.

Having said that, the whole entry 15 and tim's blurred face in 17 does indicate that Tim knows more than he is saying. It would be wise for J to follow up on this lead.


Well even if that wasn't Tim, J should go talk to Tim some more to see if he remembers anything, especially since he was in that video with J and Tim was acting suspicious during the interview.

I thought the picture in TTA's video looked like a drawing, like an anime character...nobody mentioned this? D: I thought people would have noticed this too, but I guess I was wrong. Still looks like Tim to me though, and some artists have confirmed it so I'm convinced.

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