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Arison
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I always thought the thing to the right of the window was Slenderman, if it was anything.

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gordon_ramsay
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Arison wrote:
I always thought the thing to the right of the window was Slenderman, if it was anything.



So did I.

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Ahh yes, I just had to join. Couldn't resist. Razz

Sooo... What does EFG stand for? I know EFG is Masky, but... Yeah.

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jjocke
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EFG was a humorous moniker given to "the masked one" meaning "Epic Failure Guy" for attacking J and then being repulsed and having convulsions on the floor.

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Ahh, thanks for responding fast. Smile But yeah, Masky is a much better name. Razz

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gordon_ramsay
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Call Meh Toast wrote:
Ahh, thanks for responding fast. Smile But yeah, Masky is a much better name. Razz


agreed. although....the Epic Fail mask on Masky would be Epic WIN.

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Spudsy2061
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Hate to say it but I just joined this site for this discussion, and forgive me if I don't spend countless hours readin up on 189 pages I missed since I just got into this Wednesday. Anyway going back, I think we need to look at a few things. Comparing ear lobes was mentioned, but I don't think that's something people can see with the naked eye and say "Ah those earlobes are exactly the same as the ear lobes in Entry X". Sure they could do that now, but in future entries, can we really pick up on that quickly? Hair color would be one I'd pay attention to with the masked man. I haven't gone back and looked at them yet, but there was ample lighting to see what his hair color is from entry 18. Use this and let's evaluate other cast members to narrow the choices of who this could be. Another thing I think we're missing is the first visit made to Byran's house. Now, it was an anon tip that led J there, but who's to stop anyone from saying it was TTA setting Tim up? Also, in entry 16, the first visit to the house, Tim randomly falls down to the ground in the wooden hallway, but upon close inspection I could not see anything that he could have tripped on. Remember when we first see him walk into what I will call the living room, which had the couch and table. Now sure in that room there was plenty of junk on the floor, but the hallway remained clean as a whistle, so was J shoved without knowing or finding out who did it? I think possibly, because at the end of that entry he did admit he heard strange noises. Also in Entry 16 there's tons of dried blood in the sink in the upstairs bathroom. The blood was dusty, so as to say it'd been there at least a good week. Remember when blood first dries on a surface like that, particularly that amount of blood, it becomes hard and crusty, to the point where I could pick up an entire stick of it like a well cooked piece of bacon. It then needs plenty more time to break down and degrade into a paste that saints the sink. Remember that there was also a bullet casing found, so some kind of shot had to fired, but I doubt it was a suicide because there was no body and no gun as well as no blood stains on the carpet the casing was found in, so this means the following:

1. The gun had to be shot from a distance.

Why: If the gun was shot as a suicide over the sink, the gun casing would be on the bathroom floor, and there would be no motive for anyone to move a simple bullet casing.

2. Since the gun was shot from a distance and no mechanical mechanism was found in the opposite room the gun casing was in, there was no suicide.

3. There was was not a whole lot of blood for a gun shot wound, particularly on the bathroom floor, which only contain a light drop trail. What I mean if, there would have been a much larger blast radius if it was a straight shot to the head, and even then for any other bullet wound, say a shot to the back, there would be little blood in the sink, and a lot on the floor.

4. The person who was not killed immediately and tried to move after being shot.

Why: If the person shot fell to the ground and was dragged, there would be a MUCH larger streak of blood in the bathroom.

5. The blockade put in the front of the bathroom door was done so after the shooting incident took place.

Why: If it was not, then there would have maybe been a body, but even if the body was moved, the victim would need some place to bleed out a lot more, thus there would be more blood in the bathroom.

6. The sink could not have been turned on after the shot was fired.

Why: Quite simply, if you look at it, there would be less blood in the sink then, because while turning the sink on may not have gotten most of the blood out, it would not trail as much down the sides and into the drain.

7. Someone entered and exited the house between J's two trips.

Why: Now we know the masked man was there but ASSUMING the part previously stated that on Entry 16, J falling was actually J bring shoved, someone was in the house then, but that doesn't necessarily mean he entered and exited since then. Evidence shows the couch in the main room was lying face down on Entry 16, but in 18 it is flipped to the side. Also, the sliding entry into the house was off the tracks and busted on Entry 18, unlike when it was just shut on 16.

This leaves us with two problems.

Problem Number 1: Why is there no blood on anything except in the bathroom?

If there was a shot fired from a distance and victim attempted to escape, as it said was plausible, then there would have obviously been a blood trail down the steps. This was not the case. What happened to the victim after being shot, if he could not have been left in the bathroom to bleed out and did not leave evidence throughout the rest of the house, or at least a path of retreat outside?

Problem Number 2: Why is Alex's drawings in a location other than Alex's old house.

If this was Bryan's house, why are Alex's drawings in there? This is why I say that it is not actually Bryan's house but Alex's. If we take the audio from a previous tape or TTA response (forget exactly which one it is) and speed it up to 2x speed, we here someone very eerily stating "Bryan dead". Now, I think the tip was a set-up then into Alex's old house, where Alex invited Bryan over since they were both friends and then shot him. It explains the distant bullet casing, the drawings being there, and the scene for at least Alex and Bryan to be at the house (regardless of who's it is) together at the same time. This also gives Alex a motive to move, to run from the law. Alex can also not be the Masked Man, because if we remember clearly Alex does not have long or wavy hair, he keeps it cut short, almost buzzed. Now of course this presumption can be easily defeated by saying "anyone can choose to grow their hair". Yes, and I have nothing to argue that Alex could have done just that, but ASSUMING that Alex did not let it grow, we're left with two men. The camera man, and Tim. Of these, looking at the hair similarities, I say the Masked Man is Tim. Both are relatively short (the Masked Man is no taller than 5'10'' since J, the few times we see him looks to be 6' and when we see the interview in Entry 15, before they both walk into the room, the camera is at eye level with J, and sloped slightly down). Both are of medium builds. Both have darkish brownish hair. Therefore I think the Masked Man has to be Tim. Any objections/comments?

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Wow, great analysis, and a great point too. I tried to avoid saying Alex shot himself in the head, because the blood wasn't consistent with such a wound. I figured maybe he shot himself in the chest or something and that would explain it. But I like your theory more, except I don't remember the "Brian dead" thing, I'll have to find which video that was.

It would make sense that Alex killed Brian out of insanity (I'd assume that'd be the only reason he'd shoot his friend) and then hide the body somewhere, maybe after he'd stopped bleeding and died. Then Alex flees and, once he finds out about J and what he's doing, assumes the identity of TTA to try and scare the hell out of him. He doesn't want his old friend to get stalked like he was (and maybe still is.)

See what happens when we work with the facts? Good things.

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jjocke wrote:
EFG was a humorous moniker given to "the masked one" meaning "Epic Failure Guy" for attacking J and then being repulsed and having convulsions on the floor.


also, this guy


EDIT: and we don't know for certain who drew on the papers J found in the house

or what's on those papers either
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jamiel8668
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Spudsy2061 wrote:
Any objections/comments?


Hmmm... here's my thoughts.

1: The shooting idea;

I like the idea of someone being shot at somewhere in the story-line. This would explain the bullet casing J found in Entry #17. However, I'm not convinced the amount of blood seen in that Entry suggests that someone had actually been shot.

2: Why Alex' pictures were in Brian's house?

Awesome question! [I don't have an answer yet.]

3:Sped-up audio;

Are you referring to the 'Alex... Brian... Alex... Brian...' in TTA's response to Entry #17?

4: Masky = Tim?

Though I've an inclination to agree, something tells me in isn't going to be that simple.

Very Happy

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Vazhar
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Slendy isn't the bad one?

Alright, I've been lurking for sometime trying to figure this all out and just watched ep 19 today. And the first thing I noticed was camera distortion when masky was next to the camera. Just like in 18.

Due to this, as well as masky having video taped Jay, and Slenderman never actually "attacking" Alex or Jay. Hell, Jay has never even seen Slendy apart from in the videos. Masky has attacked Jay, there was blood found in a locations that Masky was at, possibly linking him to it. I have personally come to believe that Masky is the "Bad" person in this situation. Why he would sit over Jay, I have no idea. BUT if Slendy was bad, why would he follow Alex at a distance and never actually hurt him.

Its my opinion that Masky is the bad one, and unlike how some people have suggested that Masky is protecting Jay from Slendy, I propose the opposite. Whenever Alex ran into Slendy, it was from a distance. A safe distance. Slendy walked around the parimeter of his house, Slendy watched from behind a tree, Slendy was there, but distant. The only exception to this is when he goes into Alex's room, and I still have no clue where he went when alex got up and turned on the light and couldn't see him. Or, at that point, wasn't bothered by him.

The distortion doesn't come from Slenderman. It comes from the Mask guy. Case in point, the episode in which they're doing lines in the car, Six I believe, Slendy is there and relatively close. There is no distortion. Also, Alex walking around the corner when looking for locations with Jay runs into Slendy lurking about, he is very close and no distortion. Thats because Masky is off in the woods taping Jay as we find out in a responce.

Slenderman is there to protect them. Masky is the threat, and when Masky charged Jay Slenderman protected him. Was it the slenderman doll? Was it Slenderman himself? I don't know. I'd guess the doll. But look at it without assuming Slenderman is bad, he follows but never threatens. Nothing about him is ever really threatening. Masky has been proven to be.

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My only problem is I think it's extremely doubtful that J was shoved. Yes, he fell oddly suddenly, but I seem to recall this discussion ending with most of us agreeing that was probably a bit of over-acting for his coughing fit collapse, seeing as it would have been illogical for J to continue investigating the house, had he been shoved, and one would assume that he would mention it.

I also doubt anyone was shot. Maybe someone just took the powder/pellet thingies out of the casing for some reason.

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Re: Slendy isn't the bad one?

Vazhar wrote:
Slenderman is there to protect them. Masky is the threat, and when Masky charged Jay Slenderman protected him. Was it the slenderman doll? Was it Slenderman himself? I don't know. I'd guess the doll. But look at it without assuming Slenderman is bad, he follows but never threatens. Nothing about him is ever really threatening. Masky has been proven to be.


This isn't a bad theory, except we never see Masky in Alex's footage, just Slender Man being a creeper (God, I hate that word.) That would be an interesting direction for this to go in, though. The masked man is a serial killer who is trying to kill Alex, but someone dresses up as a faceless man in a suit to scare him off. Reminds me a bit of the prank theory that seems pretty baseless now.

But, you need to recall Entry 6, when Slendy floats past Alex's window in a downright scary manner. That seems like someone who wishes ill-will to me.

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BaronVonCakeman wrote:
My only problem is I think it's extremely doubtful that J was shoved. Yes, he fell oddly suddenly, but I seem to recall this discussion ending with most of us agreeing that was probably a bit of over-acting for his coughing fit collapse, seeing as it would have been illogical for J to continue investigating the house, had he been shoved, and one would assume that he would mention it.

I also doubt anyone was shot. Maybe someone just took the powder/pellet thingies out of the casing for some reason.

Where did this "J being shoved" come from? I thought we had agreed that he just fell in that coughing fit. Probably a little too dramatically, but still from the coughing spell he was involved in.
If he was pushed, he would have said so.

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maybe i was a little quick to assume this but, i didn't read the blood in the sink as coming from a wound. With J getting sick i assumed that Alex or brian must have been as well, to the point that they have been coughing up blood. In this case it got pretty serious.

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