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The Last Gent
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That's what I got, too, simply because there was distortion to the cuts, too.

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morscata12
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Loved the music video. Brought to mind one item on my list of MH Unsolved Mysteries - why does Alex keep turning lights off when SM is nearby? He turned the lights off in at least three entries (1, 8, 11). After seeing the flashing hallway lights in Return associated with the return of Slenderman, it seems like an important theme. Does SM need light to exist?

Most entries support this theory:
- Entry 1: Standing outside under the porch light
- Entry 2: Alex drives to the SM sighting, which is under a street light.
- Entry 4: Running around a well-lit park
- Entry 6: Bright porch lights
- Entry 7: Daylight
- Entry 12: Daylight
- Entry 13: Daylight
- Entry 14: Lit hallway, SM seems to disappear when entering Alex's dark room
- Return: Flashing lights in hallway

There are a few entries not completely supporting this theory:
- Entry 10: SM was definitely standing around in the dark for most of this. HOWEVER this was his big teleport-a-thon, where he seemed to appear wherever Alex shined his flashlight.
- Entry 11: This was in the dark, but we don't know if it was Slenderman that caused the breeze in Alex's room
- Any hidden SMs found through adjusting contrast/brightness.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:29 pm
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Sylvine
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msheadwound wrote:

I don't know. Before Masky shows up, the cuts are fade to black/fade from black, but while Masky is there, the cuts are immediate, which makes me think they're not meant to be read as cuts J put in himself, but rather distortion, or edits that were already made (by Masky?) before J looked at/used the video.


And why couldn't EFG have edited it himself? J was gone for 3 hours. That's a lot of time to mess with the tapes.

And while we're at it: J might have messed with the tape himself, without remembering it. I mean, it's not like it's a rare occurence to kinda forget stuff in this one, is it?

~Sylv

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Badgerconda
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Yeah, there's nothing to show that Masky/TTA can teleport. The video is edited/distorted by either J or masky. Unless J can teleport between different sleeping positions too.

Also, the Slendy light thing.... I always thought that it was just Alex trying not to get noticed, at least, in that one entry where he's looking out his windows and stuff. If you turn your indoor lights on and look out at night, you're really easy to see (and it's much harder to see anything outside), so you'd logically switch your indoor lights off when looking outside to see if slendy was stalking across your front lawn.

Otherwise, I think it just makes it creepier that slendy appears in broad daylight a bunch of times. It's much harder to mistake him for a normal person, or background scenery, if he's well lighted, and it's not what you expect from an eldritch horror type monster-- monsters usually hide in the shadows. Slendy isn't afraid of the light, so turning them on won't save you....

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AxMxK
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morscata12 wrote:
Loved the music video. Brought to mind one item on my list of MH Unsolved Mysteries - why does Alex keep turning lights off when SM is nearby? He turned the lights off in at least three entries (1, 8, 11). After seeing the flashing hallway lights in Return associated with the return of Slenderman, it seems like an important theme. Does SM need light to exist?

Most entries support this theory:
- Entry 1: Standing outside under the porch light
- Entry 2: Alex drives to the SM sighting, which is under a street light.
- Entry 4: Running around a well-lit park
- Entry 6: Bright porch lights
- Entry 7: Daylight
- Entry 12: Daylight
- Entry 13: Daylight
- Entry 14: Lit hallway, SM seems to disappear when entering Alex's dark room
- Return: Flashing lights in hallway

There are a few entries not completely supporting this theory:
- Entry 10: SM was definitely standing around in the dark for most of this. HOWEVER this was his big teleport-a-thon, where he seemed to appear wherever Alex shined his flashlight.
- Entry 11: This was in the dark, but we don't know if it was Slenderman that caused the breeze in Alex's room
- Any hidden SMs found through adjusting contrast/brightness.


That's an interesting theory. At first, I thought the primary reason Alex kept his lights off was to hide HIMSELF from the Slender Man. I'm thinking that at first Alex thought Slender Man was an actual person, stalking him. So by logic, if Alex can't be seen he can't be stalked.

EDIT: What Badgerconda said makes sense.

Also, as to the whole theory that Alex = totheark, I find it self contradictory because of Exit, where totheark is filming J as he goes back to the car. If Alex was totheark, then how/why would that be filmed? Alex was encountering Slenderman as Exit was being filmed.

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The Last Gent
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IIRC, there was a whole debate about an apparent edit in the middle of that entry, and people thought that during that edit Alex doubled back to check on Jay, and then returned to his exploration. It supports a few theories. There was even a map of the forest drawn to prove it was possible.

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AxMxK wrote:
morscata12 wrote:
Loved the music video. Brought to mind one item on my list of MH Unsolved Mysteries - why does Alex keep turning lights off when SM is nearby? He turned the lights off in at least three entries (1, 8, 11). After seeing the flashing hallway lights in Return associated with the return of Slenderman, it seems like an important theme. Does SM need light to exist?

Most entries support this theory:
- Entry 1: Standing outside under the porch light
- Entry 2: Alex drives to the SM sighting, which is under a street light.
- Entry 4: Running around a well-lit park
- Entry 6: Bright porch lights
- Entry 7: Daylight
- Entry 12: Daylight
- Entry 13: Daylight
- Entry 14: Lit hallway, SM seems to disappear when entering Alex's dark room
- Return: Flashing lights in hallway

There are a few entries not completely supporting this theory:
- Entry 10: SM was definitely standing around in the dark for most of this. HOWEVER this was his big teleport-a-thon, where he seemed to appear wherever Alex shined his flashlight.
- Entry 11: This was in the dark, but we don't know if it was Slenderman that caused the breeze in Alex's room
- Any hidden SMs found through adjusting contrast/brightness.


That's an interesting theory. At first, I thought the primary reason Alex kept his lights off was to hide HIMSELF from the Slender Man. I'm thinking that at first Alex thought Slender Man was an actual person, stalking him. So by logic, if Alex can't be seen he can't be stalked.

EDIT: What Badgerconda said makes sense.

Also, as to the whole theory that Alex = totheark, I find it self contradictory because of Exit, where totheark is filming J as he goes back to the car. If Alex was totheark, then how/why would that be filmed? Alex was encountering Slenderman as Exit was being filmed.

[OOG] might just be for him to be visible on camera...

either way, reminds me of drawnbypain
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AxMxK wrote:

Also, as to the whole theory that Alex = totheark, I find it self contradictory because of Exit, where totheark is filming J as he goes back to the car. If Alex was totheark, then how/why would that be filmed? Alex was encountering Slenderman as Exit was being filmed.


My take on that is after Alex sees SM he bolts back to the car to see if SM was actually Jay screwing around with him. We don't know how far into the woods Jay and Alex where when Jay left to get the batteries or how much further in Alex went before seeing SM. We also don't know, chronologically speaking, exactly when either piece of footage was shot. Just that Exit was filmed some point after Alex asked Jay to get batteries.

If they where fairly deep in and Alex only walked a few dozen yards further before turning and running full clip back to the car he could have gotten there right as Jay was. Then he hid away to see if Jay had a black suit handy and to catch his breath and disguise his heavy breathing.

I really with Jay would address what happened after he brought Alex the batteries that piece of info alone would blow the lid off the tta=Alex debate..

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Two2teps wrote:
AxMxK wrote:

Also, as to the whole theory that Alex = totheark, I find it self contradictory because of Exit, where totheark is filming J as he goes back to the car. If Alex was totheark, then how/why would that be filmed? Alex was encountering Slenderman as Exit was being filmed.


My take on that is after Alex sees SM he bolts back to the car to see if SM was actually Jay screwing around with him. We don't know how far into the woods Jay and Alex where when Jay left to get the batteries or how much further in Alex went before seeing SM. We also don't know, chronologically speaking, exactly when either piece of footage was shot. Just that Exit was filmed some point after Alex asked Jay to get batteries.

If they where fairly deep in and Alex only walked a few dozen yards further before turning and running full clip back to the car he could have gotten there right as Jay was. Then he hid away to see if Jay had a black suit handy and to catch his breath and disguise his heavy breathing.

I really with Jay would address what happened after he brought Alex the batteries...if he remembers.


I like storytime.

Unfortunately, it's just a story. We, as a community, need to stop making stuff up. Your take is an interesting one, but we have no way to know if 13 and Exit were filmed simultaneously or sequentially, who filmed Exit, or what happened to Alex immediately following the events of 13 (remember, J had been missing time during the filming of MH, as seen in 17).

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morscata12 wrote:
Loved the music video. Brought to mind one item on my list of MH Unsolved Mysteries - why does Alex keep turning lights off when SM is nearby? He turned the lights off in at least three entries (1, 8, 11). After seeing the flashing hallway lights in Return associated with the return of Slenderman, it seems like an important theme. Does SM need light to exist?

Most entries support this theory:
- Entry 1: Standing outside under the porch light
- Entry 2: Alex drives to the SM sighting, which is under a street light.
- Entry 4: Running around a well-lit park
- Entry 6: Bright porch lights
- Entry 7: Daylight
- Entry 12: Daylight
- Entry 13: Daylight
- Entry 14: Lit hallway, SM seems to disappear when entering Alex's dark room
- Return: Flashing lights in hallway

There are a few entries not completely supporting this theory:
- Entry 10: SM was definitely standing around in the dark for most of this. HOWEVER this was his big teleport-a-thon, where he seemed to appear wherever Alex shined his flashlight.
- Entry 11: This was in the dark, but we don't know if it was Slenderman that caused the breeze in Alex's room
- Any hidden SMs found through adjusting contrast/brightness.


1:06 in eleven kinda messes up this theory too. SM is inside the house, in the darkness.

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superorange wrote:

1:06 in eleven kinda messes up this theory too. SM is inside the house, in the darkness.


I definitely see him after watching that part a few times, over and over again, but it's just too vague to be sure. We like to see Slendy everywhere, so it MIGHT be just some ordinary furniture looking like SM in the darkness.

~Sylv

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Sylvine wrote:
superorange wrote:

1:06 in eleven kinda messes up this theory too. SM is inside the house, in the darkness.


I definitely see him after watching that part a few times, over and over again, but it's just too vague to be sure. We like to see Slendy everywhere, so it MIGHT be just some ordinary furniture looking like SM in the darkness.

~Sylv


I'm sorry, but there's just no way. It's too obviously him. You can see his face, etc.

He might actually be outside though, the darkness messes up the depth with the shutters and his body. :/

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Slendy is outside the sliding glass door at that time in entry 11.

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It might be worth mentioning that, OOG, you kind of need light to see -anything- in the first place. So it would make sense to stick your otherworldly monster near lamps and such. Razz

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I also think Alex was just trying to hide himself those times he turned off the lights, I doubt SM needs light to survive. After all, he lives in the dark woods, does he not?

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