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Demongel
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Some speculation

Umm...hi guys. I just caught wind of this thing today and noticed something while going over the (outdated) Wiki and watching the videos. I'll try to explain this as best I can, but I don't think with linear thought processes so it's hard to word things sometimes. Anyway, here goes.

In a lot of ToTheArk's videos he posts messages that are broken up into two and three letters per line. And example being in his response to Entry #19 where J is shown to be sleep walking, then the Slenderman shows up. So I thought to myself "maybe this is significant?"

While on the Marble Hornet's Wiki under the characters of interest, Alex Kralie is listed right above Totheark.

Now this is where my brain doesn't exactly go linear, so I apologize if the jump confuses anyone. I looked at Totheark as To the ark, then noticed the word "lie" in Alex's last name. So I split lie from Kralie and got Kra lie.

Now I also remembered the penchant for the Marble Hornets videos AND the Totheark videos to have subliminal sounds that are backwards. This is when I reversed the nonsense Kra and got Ark.

This leads me to believe that Totheark is somehow Alex, or possibly Alex and Brian (videos tagged with Ark being Alex Kralie and videos not tagged with Ark being Brian). If this is true, I'd go on to say that any video with Ark as a tag in Totheark's account is Alex lying or otherwise misleading J, while the videos without an Ark tag are more prone to truth.

Just noticed something else...

In the Totheark video Program I noticed something about the 0 pattern and the Bleedmore message that popped out. If you notice with Program, the first line of zeros is always two, and beyond that a zero may be missing. Always two places though.

Ble
ed
mo
re

...Two spaces, aside from the first which was always filled with zeros.

dmeeoree is what I got, which to me is jibberish. But I still feel something about how Bleedmore is arranged is significant. Why break up a word like that if it didn't have meaning? Same with Closely...why break it up like that, with the same 2 letter sequence (aside from the first line)?

I dunno, just tossing some ideas out there. Hopefully they haven't been tossed out there and disregarded already, haha.

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A bit off topic, but I have more or less finished my Slender Doll. I just have to do some gluing to the lapels and tie, and probably remove the eyes. Enclosed are pics. =P

Also, I like the theory that maybe Alex has been lying to J as totheark, and Brian has been helping J as totheark.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:22 am
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Demongel
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It raises the question is to how both Brian and Alex have access to the same Youtube account. If they have conflicting agendas, why hasn't one or the other up and changed the password to deny access?

Still, I like my theory too obviously. I just wish I could support it more with the info given.

Note to Self: learn Morse code.

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Re: Some speculation

Demongel wrote:


In the Totheark video Program I noticed something about the 0 pattern and the Bleedmore message that popped out. If you notice with Program, the first line of zeros is always two, and beyond that a zero may be missing. Always two places though.

Ble
ed
mo
re

...Two spaces, aside from the first which was always filled with zeros.

dmeeoree is what I got, which to me is jibberish. But I still feel something about how Bleedmore is arranged is significant. Why break up a word like that if it didn't have meaning? Same with Closely...why break it up like that, with the same 2 letter sequence (aside from the first line)?


So this part didn't make sense to me, please explain?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:37 am
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Demongel
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Sure Moon.

If you need to review I'd recommend watching the Program video again. In the video, this sequence is shown (and repeats 3 times according to the Wiki).

00
0-
-0
0-

00
00
00
0-

00
00
0-
--

00
00
00
0-

Notice that in each grouping the first line of zeros is whole.

Now look at how Bleedmore is organized.
Ble
ed
mo
re

Notice that the first bit is three letters while the subsequent bits are two letters.

This would allow for someone to use the 0 pattern and Bleedmore together, assuming the - symbols in the zero sequence correspond to letters in the Bleedmore sequence. Since Ble doesn't fit into the binary pattern, having the first line always be 2 zeros gets around it not being compatible.

Example.

The first zero sequence is...
00
0-
-0
0-

Lined up with the Bleedmore Sequence, the - symbols would fall over d,m, and e.

I'm convinced that if I'm on the right track here I'm missing something, because all this theory gives me is a string of gibberish.

Edit: The wiki links the Program video to the Advocate video, due to the same zero pattern being used. At the start of the video we see "tick tock" written upside-down and backwards. We also see the return of the S watermark. What I haven't seen pointed out yet is the fact that the S watermark is also upside-down and backwards. Perhaps the zero pattern in Advocate is also upside-down and backwards?

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Unfortunately a great many people tried to follow that lead when the videos came out and had no luck whatsoever. At this point we've come so much further that even if there is a secret message coded in somehow it's probably something we already know or that's been given to us since then.

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If you use a Binary Clock to decode it, the one in Advocate reads 01, 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 00. and the one in Program reads 25, 01, 13, 01, repeat.

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I dunno, I usually do well with numbers so I kind of latch on to number based puzzles.

Deluge's obvious Morse Code light fixtures bothers me too. Was that ever translated?

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Fairly certain that it was, however I'm not sure about digging through 200+ pages of trailhead to find out where exactly.
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It wasn't. We have specific threads for each video so that you don't have to dig through the entire trailhead.

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Moon
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I remember someone trying to figure it out >_>

I guess it was never finished. But I HAVE read every page of the trailhead before, so I remember someone bringing that up.
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BaronVonCakeman wrote:
A bit off topic, but I have more or less finished my Slender Doll. I just have to do some gluing to the lapels and tie, and probably remove the eyes. Enclosed are pics. =P

Also, I like the theory that maybe Alex has been lying to J as totheark, and Brian has been helping J as totheark.


Slendy shouldn't fuck with Edward Elric.

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I um, I dunno about you guys, but I think the fact that the one in Advocate actually translates to the numbers 1-10 via Binary is too big of a coincidence to ignore. I think we should try to find out what 25, 01, 13, 01, etc. could possibly mean. I seem to recall us agreeing that the codes in Advocate were kind of a key to get us to understand how to work the code, by giving us the numbers 1-10.

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BaronVonCakeman wrote:
A bit off topic, but I have more or less finished my Slender Doll. I just have to do some gluing to the lapels and tie, and probably remove the eyes. Enclosed are pics. =P

Also, I like the theory that maybe Alex has been lying to J as totheark, and Brian has been helping J as totheark.


Oh, how did you make the suit? That is so cool. I got a slendi doll for myself, but I can't sew worth shit.

Also, I agree that there has been a lot of time talking about decoding the puzzles, but little actual decoding. It can be pretty frustrating. I think someone should really try working on the slowed-down flashes as Morse code and the number sequences.

Unfortunately, all I know about is basic binary decoding. I'd really have no clue on how to start learning Morse code, and I'm even worse with numerical sequences.

I'd love to help, but I'm kinda at a loss here. Sorry.

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I've tried it a lot of times. It's hard.

I'll watch them flash, short short long long short and type ..--. but then the next comes up and im waiting for it to be long, and it's two shorts! so I speed type .. but by then I've missed another flash and my whole timing is off!

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