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TheNightmareComplex
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justcurious wrote:
I just wanted to note, that at approx 1:07 you can pause and see the blood on his face, before he goes to the door. Creepy shit. He looks so different w/out glasses.

Edit: and I love the term crapmares. I may need to use that one. Razz


You go right ahead, my dad would be proud of me if I could get this term wide-spread.

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Omega_Absolute
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TheNightmareComplex wrote:
justcurious wrote:
I just wanted to note, that at approx 1:07 you can pause and see the blood on his face, before he goes to the door. Creepy shit. He looks so different w/out glasses.

Edit: and I love the term crapmares. I may need to use that one. Razz


You go right ahead, my dad would be proud of me if I could get this term wide-spread.


+1 using "crapmares"

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:46 pm
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TheNightmareComplex
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Confirmed. Alex is bleeding from the head before the 32-minute skip.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:51 pm
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Omega_Absolute
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Now what did I say earlier?

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TheNightmareComplex
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Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

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Omega_Absolute
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Oh... NvM then... Confused

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Big Johnny
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I looked at it frame-by-frame in an external player. Pre-skip blood is visible in 3 other frames for a total of 4 frames. It is visible, but not recognizable in even more.

I capped the applicable frames.





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Omega_Absolute
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"Getting the same question a lot. Nothing of interest happened in the 32 minutes. Just the camera pointed at the door.
8 minutes ago from web"

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twixbucket
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Not sure if this fits, but it seems like a spooky coincidence:

http://tinyurl.com/ycwrrja

It's getting harder to wade through all the google hits of people just talking about this stuff.


EDIT:

If we shorten Alex Kralie to "A. Kralie" the rearranging to "Ark A Lie" is more apparent.

EDIT 2:

I'm new. Hi. I spent the night reading all 52 pages so as not to seem like a fish out of water. I'll lurk most of the time, but I want to be a part of this!

I have access to the full Final Cut Pro suite, also CS2 suite. Use me. I have friends with Protools. I am a graduated film major, I know editing. Let me know!

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Pogo
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You don't know how friggen happy I am to have my door shut all the way right now, and my lights on, and Fable 2 chatter so my room isn't so quiet.

WTF @ arks response to the youtube message.

Why is Alex's head bleeding before he shut the door and why is it still fresh after the 30 or so minutes?

Is there an IRC channel in which we can discuss this? Sorry, I eyesdropped on the totheark message screen.

Alex also uses a lower quality camera when he is filming things on his own time and such, but I think this was already pointed out.

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rushinge
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twixbucket wrote:
Not sure if this fits, but it seems like a spooky coincidence:

http://tinyurl.com/ycwrrja

It's getting harder to wade through all the google hits of people just talking about this stuff.


EDIT:

If we shorten Alex Kralie to "A. Kralie" the rearranging to "Ark A Lie" is more apparent.

EDIT 2:

I'm new. Hi. I spent the night reading all 52 pages so as not to seem like a fish out of water. I'll lurk most of the time, but I want to be a part of this!

I have access to the full Final Cut Pro suite, also CS2 suite. Use me. I have friends with Protools. I am a graduated film major, I know editing. Let me know!


Can you make anything of the horizontal visual tearing displayed in many of the entries? The only cause I've been able to find for that is if encoding equipment can't process fast enough to keep up with the raw visual data being fed into it. Thinking about what's going on here it seems to me the most likely scenario is that J is running into that problem when he's encoding the tapes into his computer with whatever capture equipment he's using to make the videos.
I'm kind of hoping/thinking that the tearing is the unintended result of encoding some additional information into the video stream and the math involved in this encoding process results in noticeable visual artifacts.
One thing I thought of trying, is paying attention to the height that the visual tear occurs at. If Alex is intentionally responsible for this tearing (though I have no idea how he could be) then perhaps he has manipulated the height to send us a message, heck maybe J has since there has been mention of us not being able to trust him. Maybe you could edit a clip together with all of the instances of visual tearing and something will leap out at you or us.

Also there is additional visual distortion in Entry #12 which becomes quite startlingly obvious at around the 30 second mark. Any ideas you might have on the cause of that would be quite welcome. I haven't seen any mention of anyone performing an in depth video and audio analysis of the distortions present in the Entry videos. Has anyone even gone frame by frame through point in Entry #12 where it goes completely haywire?

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ganonscrub
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The one thing I can think of to explain the bizarre distortions in the tapes are it has something to do with the SM being around.

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Grooze
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I've tried analysing the audio distortions in a number of ways, but it hasn't really revealed any clues. There are at least two distinct types of distortion: a soft distortion heard in Entries #5 (~1:07, ~1:55) and #13 (around 0:55), and a hard distortion heard also in entry #5 (~0:34, ~1:13, ~2:34). There are other examples but these are the main ones.

The hard type of distortion sounds to me like the sound you get when you take a recording and amplify it way beyond 0dB, though it has been processed in more ways than that. I've attached an audio clip for comparison, where I've amplified the original by 48dB, filtered it to kill the treble, declipped it, amplified it again by 48, filtered and declipped it again, then amplified it once more with a hard limiter by about 15dB. I'd like to know if the rest of you audio types think the texture is similar.

Edit: Note that the original audio doesn't come from any of the Entries. This is just a test to see if we can figure out why the weird distortion appears. If you're able to decipher this, you'll find that the original audio track was a mix of some noises (white, then pink, then brown) and a newsreader talking about a giant snow-covered yetti that was spotted in North Dakota that the president wants captured for his personal menagerie.
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SvenVikson
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Grooze wrote:
I've tried analysing the audio distortions in a number of ways, but it hasn't really revealed any clues. There are at least two distinct types of distortion: a soft distortion heard in Entries #5 (~1:07, ~1:55) and #13 (around 0:55), and a hard distortion heard also in entry #5 (~0:34, ~1:13, ~2:34). There are other examples but these are the main ones.

The hard type of distortion sounds to me like the sound you get when you take a recording and amplify it way beyond 0dB, though it has been processed in more ways than that. I've attached an audio clip for comparison, where I've amplified the original by 48dB, filtered it to kill the treble, declipped it, amplified it again by 48, filtered and declipped it again, then amplified it once more with a hard limiter by about 15dB. I'd like to know if the rest of you audio types think the texture is similar.

Edit: Note that the original audio doesn't come from any of the Entries. This is just a test to see if we can figure out why the weird distortion appears. If you're able to decipher this, you'll find that the original audio track was a mix of some noises (white, then pink, then brown) and a newsreader talking about a giant snow-covered yetti that was spotted in North Dakota that the president wants captured for his personal menagerie.


I think it's similar, needs less gain to be right. In the videos some of the distorted parts are still understandable.

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Dmitri Stokes
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Shat brix. No jk. Slender man inviting himself intp the house and INTO THE ROOM was scary enough, but the bloody alex was just waaaay out there - this suggests that slender man is more than willing to harm people (there goes my philosphy of "If I see him, i'll pounce the lanky bastard"). So i'm confused, is the tape chronological? In the night slender man came in, ripped Alex's head up, or is it Alex set up the camera while bloody, then left it and slender came back later?

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