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[lighter]

I couldn't watch the original link, nothinginthesea.co.cc since I don't have that pesky plug-in, but I wonder if that's the video verloren is talking about.
Verloren hasn't been super-helpful in my email exchanges either.
It wasn't clear whether Joseph got the info from "Olivia" recently, or 10 years ago when his brother died, but I figured maybe checking for a blog about "Oh hey, stupid secret evil organization fired me today for giving out classified information" could be a way to find "Olivia".
Googling "Olivia" and "secretary" brought up some, uhh, 'interesting' (xxx)links.
I love me some sea monsters, check out the Lusca!

[theantman15]

wsad employee just added me on their yahoo messenger list and send me an offline message saying Hello?
So now I'll be able to talk to him/her through that. He isn't online right now but as soon as he is its on!
OH and Verloren emailed back saying it my my call whether or not I tell the employee about him, but I won't mention anything unless absolutely necessary.

>Edit Sent the employee back an offline message saying I'll be available around 5:30 PST to talk if he would like to, so I'm hoping he will be available too, I'll keep you guys posted.

>>Edit also give me some questions to ask this guy, what could I ask to help us figure out what's going on? Anyone have any ideas?

[Sasquatch]

It would be nice if we could get some more names of WSAD people. More people that would have access to the WSAD site. I don't know if that's information that he would give up though...

[theantman15]

Talking to the employee:

Me: good morning
wsademployee: Good morning.
wsademployee: I suppose you mean PDT?
Me: yes sorry
Me: so it seems we both have information the each other wants right?
wsademployee: Yes.
wsademployee: Like, how you that information.
wsademployee: Excuse me.
wsademployee is typing a message.
wsademployee: I'll be back in about an hour.
wsademployee has signed back in. (7/25/2009 10:12 AM)

Me: that was a quick hour I would say
wsademployee: Hm, I was back sooner than I thought.
Me: I see
wsademployee: So
Me: I know about Samuel Ryan
wsademployee: ...
wsademployee: Where did you find the name "Baldulc"?
Me: But I don't know about the Baldulc, what can you tell me about it?
wsademployee: How about, if I
wsademployee: Woops
Me: woops?
wsademployee: I give you some information, and you tell me where you found the name "Baldulc".
wsademployee: I hit enter
wsademployee: On accident
wsademployee: By*
wsademployee: So, do we have a deal?
Me: ok i agree but only if its useful information

[theantman15]

wsademployee: Right
wsademployee: What would you ki
wsademployee: Like ti know
wsademployee: To
Me: There is a few things if you don't mind, first there is a video released to the public about the Baldulc, I believe it was from you guys, any idea where I can access it?
wsademployee: I've never heard of such a video.
wsademployee: The Baldulc are top secrey
wsademployee: Secret
wsademployee: Classified
Me: Why are they so top secret?
wsademployee: Because the public can't handle the information
Last message received on 7/25 at 10:19 AM
wsademployee: How would you react if you were told that an underwater race of ancient monsters were coming to kill you all?
Me: Well I know they are gathering in the Bermuda Triangle, I know the exact coordinates in fact, but what is so special about them that you would send your employees to die to find them
wsademployee: We do not send our employees to die!
wsademployee: And we had less information back then
Me: But one did, and you covered it up
wsademployee: So?
Me: So if you died, and your family has no idea how, that would be ok with you?

[theantman15]

wsademployee: I would be dead. How would I feel anything?
Me: You know what I mean, but anyways, what did we do to the Baldulc to make them want to kill us?
wsademployee: Nothing as far as I am aware
Me: OK, do they go by any other name?
wsademployee: It seems that I'm the only one giving information here
Me: that is because I only have one valuable piece of information that you need, while I have several, and I feel If I give you what you want right away you'll stop helping me
wsademployee: Wheee
wsademployee: I mean
wsademployee: Where
wsademployee: Did you find the name
wsademployee: Baldulc
Me: I found it on a forum
wsademployee: Right... And where did this "forum" get their information
wsademployee: ?
Me: What are you going to do with this information when I give it to you?
wsademployee: It depends on the information
wsademployee: Has someone hacked into our website?
Me: no sir, no one has hacked into anything yet
wsademployee: Uh-huh.
Me: I told you it is from a former disgruntled employee
wsademployee: Rim
Me: rim?
wsademployee: And what if I
wsademployee: Don't believe you
wsademployee: That was a typo
Me: ok, well that is your choice but the more you don't beleive me the less or no info that you get, you just have to trust me
wsademployee: Qqiit...
Me: but unfortunately I have to leave for work very soon, so I would like to continue this conversation when I get home, is 5:30 ok?
wsademployee: Typi
wsademployee: Okay
wsademployee: Goodbye
Me: but before i leave wil you answer if it goes by any other names, or at least your name?
wsademployee: My name is Albert
wsademployee has signed out. (7/25/2009 10:33 AM)

That's all I got right now, can you guys check out those typos to see if they are significant. He seemed to have a lot. I'll be talking with him just as soon as i get off of work, see yall then/

[catgirl789]

Nice work antman! I'll check out the typos now, but I'm not sure how far I'll get, I'm no expert with codes.

ETA: I've looked at the typos, and although I haven't looked at them very long, they seem like honest mistakes to me.

[theantman15]

More messenging witht he employee

Me: Welcome back Albert
wsademployee: Hello
Me: by the way I don't think I introduced myself, you can call me theantman
wsademployee: Okay
wsademployee: So
Me: so may I ask a question?
wsademployee: Yes
wsademployee: And then I will
Me: What is the WSAD doing about the Baldulc problem and is there any way I can help?
wsademployee: That is classifies
wsademployee: Classified
Me: Am i going to get any info at all, or is it all classified?
wsademployee: You can try
Me: Ok
Me: well what was your question
wsademployee: Let's see
wsademployee: What do you know?
Me: Well I know that the Baldulc is going to kill us all thanks to you
wsademployee: ?
Me: I also know that one of your employees was killed on a dive that you guys sent him on
Me: you mentioned to me that ancient underwater creatures were going to kill the human race
wsademployee: They will try, at least
Me: and to be honest that's pretty much all that I know, though I'm willing to help with whatever the WSAD is doing in this investigation
Me: They will try? Does that mean you have a defense system ready?
wsademployee: Of course
Me: And what does it consist of?
wsademployee: Classified
wsademployee: And I think you know a bit more
wsademployee: You're hiding something
Me: Well I know a little more, but you are also hiding things
wsademployee: Like, your sources
Me: Classified
Me: for now at least
wsademployee: Hm
wsademployee: Your turn
Me: How can I help the WSAD?
wsademployee: Um
wsademployee: You can keep quiet
Me: What is in it for me?
wsademployee: One moment please
wsademployee: Okay
wsademployee: I don't know
Me: So there really is no incentive

[theantman15]

wsademployee: ...
wsademployee: My turn
Me: Yes sir
wsademployee: I think you have lied
wsademployee: All this information
wsademployee: Could not have just come from some disgruntled employee
wsademployee: I think
Me: Why do you think that?
wsademployee: You've breached our security somehow
wsademployee: I have a hunch
Me: What if I told you I have no idea who the informant is or his real name or anything of that nature?
wsademployee: Ha
Me: I'm being completely honest
wsademployee: What if I told you I don't believe you?
Me: Then you don't trust me, but as I see it we have no reason to lie to each other
wsademployee: What if I told you that I believe you have more than one source?
Me: I want to give you want you want, and I expect you to return the favor
Me: why would you believe that?
wsademployee: Just a feelijg
wsademployee: Feeling
Me: Well that's a strange feeling
Me: My turn
wsademployee: Wait... You keep bringing up the dead diver. Why?
wsademployee: Alright
Me: What was Samuel Ryan diving for, this dead diver you referred to
wsademployee: He was looking for
wsademployee: The cause
wsademployee: Of the
wsademployee: Disappearances
wsademployee: At that point
wsademployee: We did not
wsademployee: Know
wsademployee: What it was
wsademployee: We only recently discovered it's name
wsademployee: My turn
Me: I see
Me: go ahead
wsademployee: You keep bringing him up. Why?
Me: It is because of him how we found out about you guys
wsademployee: I see
Me: my turn
wsademployee: Go ahead
Me: Do you know what the Baldulc's next move is going to be?
wsademployee: No
wsademployee: My turn
wsademployee: How did you discover Ryan's death?
Me: Our informant informed us
wsademployee: Wait... Didnt
wsademployee: Ryan have a brother?
wsademployee: Of course
wsademployee: Him!
Me: Why did the WSAD try to cover up his death? Were they doing something illegal? Or is that classified
Me: His brother?
wsademployee: Because revealing his death would reveal the Baldulc
wsademployee: Thank you
wsademployee: For giving me the information I wanted
Me: and how is that possible?
wsademployee: Someone would ask why he was diving
wsademployee: Now if you excuse me
wsademployee: I have no more reason to talk to you
Me: you don't
Me: because there maybe someone else who is in contact...
wsademployee: We will also be running some security
wsademployee: Checks
Me: but you wouldn't be interested in that would you?
wsademployee: Hm?
wsademployee: Someone else?
Me: Didnt' think so, go run your security checks I guess,
wsademployee: Goodbye then

So I guess they will be changing their password to the website soon, Verloren has helped us before, maybe he can again. I hope I'll be able to talk to him soon.

[catgirl789]

You did great antman.

[amandel]

Nice work, theantman. Twittered Joseph asking if he was ever introduced to an Albert. Maybe Verloren will help you out with more details? No pattern in the typos for me.

[ironnikki]

Well, it sounds like Joseph may be out of a job, at the very least... Hopefully the WSAD isn't into the whole killing people to divulge too much info thing.

Nice job, theantman. As of now, I'm still able to log into the WSAD site, so lets hope that they don't take that down. Though it sounds like the Baldulc is a common enemy between the WSAD and ourselves, I'm not sure just how much we should trust them. Something just smells "fishy" about their operation... haha.

[theantman15]

[theantman15]

Just looked at the WSAD site and this shows up when you log in:

[RAD24]

That has got to be the best error message I've ever seen the best part is "we're sorry for the inconvenience" lol