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sometallusjinks
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madopal wrote:
Just a thought....but from one of the pictures I saw of the stuff from the wallets, there *was* a puzzle piece type look on the backs of the physical cards.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/47862550@N04/4385034403/in/set-72157623502211838/

Now the online site has us turn over the cards to make a picture. What if the ones that are distributed form a different picture? Maybe we might want to start getting good scans of the card backs?


Yeah, it looks the same as the original cards, there's a picture of the fully-formed original poster here:

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madopal wrote:
Ecks51 wrote:
madopal wrote:
Just a thought....but from one of the pictures I saw of the stuff from the wallets, there *was* a puzzle piece type look on the backs of the physical cards.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/47862550@N04/4385034403/in/set-72157623502211838/

Now the online site has us turn over the cards to make a picture. What if the ones that are distributed form a different picture? Maybe we might want to start getting good scans of the card backs?
If those are original cards from the 80s (or good reprints), that'd be a piece of the original movie poster as was pointed out earlier.


Sure, but there could still be something there. Even if, say, there was some pattern to where the "Flynn Lives" UV stamps were placed? Just seems interesting that the numbering on the site would be so seemingly arbitrary, that's all. Why reveal the cards in a non-numeric order then?
There may not be a reason for the randomness, except to keep the whole image from appearing linearly.
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sometallusjinks wrote:
madopal wrote:
Just a thought....but from one of the pictures I saw of the stuff from the wallets, there *was* a puzzle piece type look on the backs of the physical cards.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/47862550@N04/4385034403/in/set-72157623502211838/

Now the online site has us turn over the cards to make a picture. What if the ones that are distributed form a different picture? Maybe we might want to start getting good scans of the card backs?


Yeah, it looks the same as the original cards, there's a picture of the fully-formed original poster here:

eBay URL

Linkified forum stretching URL - E


The interesting question then is: is the order on the site the same as the order the physical cards must be put together to make the puzzle. If not, then why not? If so, yeah, it could just be passed off as a simple tribute to the original cards, but with a different movie poster image.

And to the randomness: you could distribute random cards at locations, but as far as how they set down to put the puzzle together, wouldn't the simplest thing be:

1 2 3 4 5 6
6 7 8 9 10 11

etc?
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 		It is too easy a trick to miss. There has to be a reason for distributing and releasing them in this order.

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madopal wrote:
Just a thought....but from one of the pictures I saw of the stuff from the wallets, there *was* a puzzle piece type look on the backs of the physical cards.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/47862550@N04/4385034403/in/set-72157623502211838/


Ok, so looking at that again, the card shown is #18, and it is in fact the upper right hand corner, the same as it is on the site. So there's probably nothing unique for us to gain by checking them all together.

Probably.
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madopal wrote:
sometallusjinks wrote:
madopal wrote:
Just a thought....but from one of the pictures I saw of the stuff from the wallets, there *was* a puzzle piece type look on the backs of the physical cards.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/47862550@N04/4385034403/in/set-72157623502211838/

Now the online site has us turn over the cards to make a picture. What if the ones that are distributed form a different picture? Maybe we might want to start getting good scans of the card backs?


Yeah, it looks the same as the original cards, there's a picture of the fully-formed original poster here:

eBay URL

Linkified forum stretching URL - E

The interesting question then is: is the order on the site the same as the order the physical cards must be put together to make the puzzle. If not, then why not? If so, yeah, it could just be passed off as a simple tribute to the original cards, but with a different movie poster image.

And to the randomness: you could distribute random cards at locations, but as far as how they set down to put the puzzle together, wouldn't the simplest thing be:

1 2 3 4 5 6
6 7 8 9 10 11

etc?


That doesn't happen very often in image reveals. By the time the bottom row was revealed, people wouldn't care anymore because the main part of the image had already been revealed.
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madopal wrote:
The interesting question then is: is the order on the site the same as the order the physical cards must be put together to make the puzzle. If not, then why not? If so, yeah, it could just be passed off as a simple tribute to the original cards, but with a different movie poster image.

From what I can tell from the cards we picked up in London, the positions are the same between the old poster cards and the page.

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madopal wrote:
The interesting question then is: is the order on the site the same as the order the physical cards must be put together to make the puzzle. If not, then why not? If so, yeah, it could just be passed off as a simple tribute to the original cards, but with a different movie poster image.

From what I can tell from the cards we picked up in London, the positions are the same between the old poster cards and the page.
Sounds like just a digital update of the old cards. I like it.
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 		reveal order
Can we put together a list of which card numbers were revealed in which city, and order by time?

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Wiser wrote:
That doesn't happen very often in image reveals. By the time the bottom row was revealed, people wouldn't care anymore because the main part of the image had already been revealed.


I'm not explaining well. Ok, you've got 9 cards. You have to a) put them in a specific order and b) get all of them to assemble the puzzle. The cards are numbered.

Now, in a trading card pack, you're giving them out not all at once. In this case, they can distribute them as they need to.

So, in our example, if we have the cards numbered, the puzzle assembled could look like this:

1 2 3
4 5 6
7 8 9

Now, just because it's NUMBERED that way, doesn't mean I give out 1 first. I could give you 4, 7, 8, then 1, 3, then 2, 6, 5, and 9. You would place them in that order as you saw how they went together.

This puzzle has a top row of
3 25 2 36 56 18

The question as to why that was could have been that when you get the actual cards and assemble them in that order, you get something. In this case, you do get something: the original movie poster. But if they a) had changed the back, or b) had added something with the UV, by reassembling all the cards, there could be some information we're supposed to glean from that.

Given that 18 is the upper right in both the original and the web puzzle, though, I'd say that most likely the only possibility then is that after assembling, the UV stamps gave some info. But that seems very unlikely.
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madopal wrote:
Wiser wrote:
That doesn't happen very often in image reveals. By the time the bottom row was revealed, people wouldn't care anymore because the main part of the image had already been revealed.


I'm not explaining well. Ok, you've got 9 cards. You have to a) put them in a specific order and b) get all of them to assemble the puzzle. The cards are numbered.

Now, in a trading card pack, you're giving them out not all at once. In this case, they can distribute them as they need to.

So, in our example, if we have the cards numbered, the puzzle assembled could look like this:

1 2 3
4 5 6
7 8 9

Now, just because it's NUMBERED that way, doesn't mean I give out 1 first. I could give you 4, 7, 8, then 1, 3, then 2, 6, 5, and 9. You would place them in that order as you saw how they went together.

This puzzle has a top row of
3 25 2 36 56 18

The question as to why that was could have been that when you get the actual cards and assemble them in that order, you get something. In this case, you do get something: the original movie poster. But if they a) had changed the back, or b) had added something with the UV, by reassembling all the cards, there could be some information we're supposed to glean from that.

Given that 18 is the upper right in both the original and the web puzzle, though, I'd say that most likely the only possibility then is that after assembling, the UV stamps gave some info. But that seems very unlikely.


Considering that this is really only the beginning, I think you may be over-analyzing it a bit...
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Considering that this is really only the beginning, I think you may be over-analyzing it a bit...


Could be, but as someone had mentioned a previous puzzle where images texted to various people were combined, it totally follows the crowdsourcing nature of these types of games.

If we had seen that a) the card backs no longer corresponded to the original order (flip the card over and #18 is no longer the upper right corner, for example), or b) some cards appeared to have an image that didn't fit with the original movie poster, we might have some evidence of that.

Besides, often times, these games have a trail, and after this, having it all assembled might lead to the next step.

Again, not saying it's likely, but it wouldn't be the first time that cooperation between all players was required for that.
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