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Ned21
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kadomony wrote:
Ned21 wrote:
hey ppl, have been reading for awhile but not posting..

I tried also to contact infoSPLATshineisei.jp for my 'lost password', but got the same message posted here.

I've also been trying to figure out the passwords at the site, but been unsuccessful so far. I feel that it might not be the right move to jump in with the Junsui so fast. We could try to figure out what is going on, if they are terrorist or not. Maybe the answer is on the shineisei page.

On the email they also talk say: "Thank you for your interest in the More Than Me and Junsui programs.", any idea of the "more than me" - program?

This is found on the source - NSE 日本新衛生 (JAPAN NEW HEALTH): Biotechnology & New Drugs Private Corporation in Tokushima City, Tokushima Prefecture, Japan".


I believe the "More Than Me" program to be like that movie "The 6th Day"
Shin Eisei makes a clone of you but with genetic enhancements.


So is the Junsui more like a 'lets make you a pretty wife' kinda slave program? These ppl seems to be created to be their own, not from somebody else.

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kadomony
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Ned21 wrote:

So is the Junsui more like a 'lets make you a pretty wife' kinda slave program? These ppl seems to be created to be their own, not from somebody else.


Well here's my theory so far, excuse the repost of old information:

Alfa-Tsentr (Russian paramilitary) contracted Nippon Shin-Eisei (genetics company that also does civilian projects like More Than Me) to create a group of soldiers/assassins. The resulting products were then tested in various extreme conditions.

Some of them, however realized why they were created and decided to rebel against their creators, masters, and anyone who would seek to use them for ill gains (Khozains)

Several of these women realized that to be truly "pure" and perfect, they needed to shed the taint of current society the corruption of greed, big companies and all that stuff. So they created "Junko Junsui" or a group not only pure genetically but also mentally, in their belief.

They decide to research their past and learn of Gwaschemasch'e and how she embraced the same ideals.

There are still a lot of unknowns however.
Is Alfa-Tsentr trying to bring back Gwaschemasch'e?
Are the Junsui?

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Lyssavirus
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 		Edit: Also what that guy said. ^^^

Ned21 wrote:

So is the Junsui more like a 'lets make you a pretty wife' kinda slave program? These ppl seems to be created to be their own, not from somebody else.

There does seem to be that sort of implication - especially with the Junko Junsui facebook referencing Circassian woman with the photos. Circassians were often sold into sexual slavery, and the Junsui seem to be all about motherhood/female empowerment. I got a very GATTACA feel from the NSE website - making your child OF you, but more than you by enhancing the "best" traits, designer babies, hence a Japanese couple with a black baby. I've been working under the assumption that the Russian PMC snagged one of the Junsui and are running her through the wringer, either as interrogation or to gauge and test capabilities. And maybe make genetically engineered super soldiers.

Though, admittedly, I'm having trouble processing all of this information. It's convoluted as hell.

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Redwingsfan
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 		i still think it has to do with Men of Taste.

Remember the whois, they own the Alfa Tsentr (and apparently something else judging from the whois) and are probably the oligarchs so often mentioned by the Junsui.

As i said about 20 pages ago haha (because this thread goes so fast!), I believe it has to do with the Junsui being created for the men (sex slaves, perfect women to be wed, bearing perfect children for the Men.)

I think the NSE created them for the Men, and they are using the military to conduct experiments on them and capture the free ones...

i think the junsui have realized what is going on, and have decided to rebel.

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thehaywire
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 		Umm... about the coordinates to the place in the Norwegian islands...

1)КРГ2+06756+01468 - ???

My russian friend said that КРГ means Krasnogorsk, which is a place in Moscow (also means "red mountain"). Could this have any significance?

EDIT:
There's a Krasnogorsk in Uzbekistan as well http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=fi&geocode=&q=41.09+%2B+69.40&sll=60.169879,24.938408&sspn=0.367514,1.098633&ie=UTF8&z=11&iwloc=A

...and in Turkemenistan http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=fi&q=Krasnogorsk,+Turkmenistan&sll=42.633959,70.993652&sspn=8.695577,17.578125&ie=
UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FXf2cwIdGr-dAw&split=0&ll=41.170384,60.671997&spn=2.224602,4.394531&z=8&iwloc=A

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Ned21
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kadomony wrote:
Ned21 wrote:

So is the Junsui more like a 'lets make you a pretty wife' kinda slave program? These ppl seems to be created to be their own, not from somebody else.


Well here's my theory so far, excuse the repost of old information:

Alfa-Tsentr (Russian paramilitary) contracted Nippon Shin-Eisei (genetics company that also does civilian projects like More Than Me) to create a group of soldiers/assassins. The resulting products were then tested in various extreme conditions.

Some of them, however realized why they were created and decided to rebel against their creators, masters, and anyone who would seek to use them for ill gains (Khozains)

Several of these women realized that to be truly "pure" and perfect, they needed to shed the taint of current society the corruption of greed, big companies and all that stuff. So they created "Junko Junsui" or a group not only pure genetically but also mentally, in their belief.

They decide to research their past and learn of Gwaschemasch'e and how she embraced the same ideals.

There are still a lot of unknowns however.
Is Alfa-Tsentr trying to bring back Gwaschemasch'e?
Are the Junsui?


Yea, still the junsui program seems to be open for everybody. Not sure how alfa-tsentr is connected, maybe they are just providers for these high-class Russians, like they provide other services. Seems like Junko is the first batch of this Junsui program and they are in the hand of alfa-tsentr. Or maybe its other way around? Something went wrong with the Junko (maybe they are supposed to be more like robots and not think about themselves) and NSE actually hired alfa-tsentr to get rid of them and now they are being hunt down. Maybe they are extremly unstable and dangerous for public, seems like they are cordinating many attacks on FB anyway.

I think we should try to hack the NSE website and find more info about everything.

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kadomony
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Ned21 wrote:
NSE actually hired alfa-tsentr to get rid of them and now they are being hunt down.


oo i like that theory. maybe junsui were a solo experiment Shin Eisei was conducting an the lost control. then alfa-tsentr was hired to either kill or retrieve them by Shin Eisei. Alfa-Tsentr then realized they could use the Junsui as soldiers...

i sent off an email to A-T a couple hours ago that will hopefully yield results. don't want to post my method here as Khozains may be watching Shocked

we reaaaaaally need to find a way to get into A-T's network and glean some info on Rei's exact location within the Yamantau complex

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kadomony
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 		The Junsui THENFRIEND BROADCASTMNAJDRA INJUNKO
FIND FRIEND JUNKO IN MNAJDRA THEN BROADCAST!
Click on bottom button to add to your own fb profile... ACTIVATE.
BROADCAST WILL SOON CHANGE! ))))
http://sheistheorigin.org/broadcast01/

nice. maybe we'll have something more to go on soon.

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Redwingsfan
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 		Shes mentioned mnajdra a few times... any significance?

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Lyssavirus
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 		Mnajdra is an ancient temple in Malta, Malta has huge focus on fertility. Gwaschemasch'e went to the temples on the summer solstice to purify virgins and the like.

Wikipedia on Malta wrote:
Mnarja, or l-Imnarja (pronounced lim-nar-ya) is one of the most important dates on the Maltese cultural calendar. Officially, it is a national festival dedicated to the feast of Saints Peter and St. Paul. In fact its roots can be traced back to the pagan Roman feast of Luminaria (literally, "the illumination"), when the early summer night of June 29 was illuminated by torches and bonfires.


I'd say yes, it's important.

thehaywire wrote:
Umm... about the coordinates to the place in the Norwegian islands...

I thought that was solved? http://junkojunsui.wikidot.com/coordinate-puzzle

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kadomony
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 		OH HELLO LOOK WHAT I FOUND (unless it's a repost Razz)

ok so we've looked up the whois on sheistheorigin.org right?
and we've seen this:
Registrant Phone:+356.21243677

that phone number is for a hotel in Malta
http://www.hotelcastillemalta.com/
castillehotelSPLATvol.net.mt

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kolixela
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Lyssavirus wrote:
Mnajdra is an ancient temple in Malta, Malta has huge focus on fertility. Gwaschemasch'e went to the temples on the summer solstice to purify virgins and the like.

Wikipedia on Malta wrote:
Mnarja, or l-Imnarja (pronounced lim-nar-ya) is one of the most important dates on the Maltese cultural calendar. Officially, it is a national festival dedicated to the feast of Saints Peter and St. Paul. In fact its roots can be traced back to the pagan Roman feast of Luminaria (literally, "the illumination"), when the early summer night of June 29 was illuminated by torches and bonfires.


thehaywire wrote:
Umm... about the coordinates to the place in the Norwegian islands...

I thought that was solved? http://junkojunsui.wikidot.com/coordinate-puzzle


Further research has pointed to these locations being actual sites of Goddess Worship from more information posted a few pages back.

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Lyssavirus
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kolixela wrote:
Further research has pointed to these locations being actual sites of Goddess Worship from more information posted a few pages back.


Ah, balls, I missed that. It's after 2 am, I should get my butt to bed and hope my brain sorts everything out. Sorry.

Though, as an aside, the talk on the Junko twitter about "erasing" bugs the crap out of me. Time to bust out the tinfoil hats.

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serafima
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 		symbolism and gods/goddesses
just my observations about the symbols and their associations to characters/gods/goddesses
JJ's birthday is supposedly on the solstice (the same day Gwaschemasch'e performed her fertility ritual in Malta). The solstice is the longest day and shortest night. The light (pure) triumphs temporarily but must fade and succumb to the darkness as autumn approaches... that could represent her struggle against the wolves or "them" whoever "they" are.

The symbols on Gwaschemasch'e's hand on The Junko's facebook group look a lot like certain pagan goddess images. This one is of a pregnant goddess: http://witchcraft-supplies.com/3Prod/goddess.abundance.jpg I know it's a pendant on a commercial jewelry site, but the resemblance is still there. This symbol also is reminiscent of the ones on Gwaschemasch'e's hand: http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/2/0/0/bf/1/AAAAAi0TNbIAAAAAAL8eIQ.jpg

The triangle is also a feminine symbol... But the orientation she has it in on her Twitter is the male orientation (it goes from being a chalice to being a fallic symbol with the point upwards ). The sun is also a male symbol generally. If we go with the Egyptian mythology vein (associated with the Seth Anubi character) then Horus (male) is the sun god and Aten represents the disk of the sun (also male). There were a few sun-gods... Ra, Horus and Aten were among them. So it would be male within male.

What doesn't fit the light vs dark concept of purity fighting against evil in the Egyptian mythology vein is that Nut is the goddess of the night sky (although she usually appears with Geb who is the god of the earth).

There is however a female sun-goddesses in Egyptian lore (they are not as commonly worshipped for that part of their divinty). Her name is Sekhmet, she has the head of the lioness and was responsible for punishing mankind at Ra's request. Sekhmet was the mother of Neferet who was a peacemaker. This could go into JJ being a fan on facebook of militant women who were also mothers. Sekhmet's semi-counterpart is Bastet who has the head of a cat. She was said to ride across the sky with Ra the sun god. Bastet also was said to fight Ra's enemy at night (a serpent).

There are other Egyptian goddesses that might fit into the idea of some sort of "Mother" figure. Isis was the wife of Osiris and mother of Horus... Hathor is the epitome of maternal beauty... She was the mother goddess and exemplified female goodliness. Hathor, however, on Ra's orders to protect him from his enemies, transformed from loving, motherly, cow-headed goddess to Sekhmet who was lusting for blood. That might be important although Bastet and sekhmet are usually looked at together because they are both feline... Anyway Hathor and Sekhmet might be an interesting dichotomy... Especially with the motherliness/militant thing going on...

Sorry this was such a long post >.<

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kolixela
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Lyssavirus wrote:
kolixela wrote:
Further research has pointed to these locations being actual sites of Goddess Worship from more information posted a few pages back.


Ah, balls, I missed that. It's after 2 am, I should get my butt to bed and hope my brain sorts everything out. Sorry.

Though, as an aside, the talk on the Junko twitter about "erasing" bugs the crap out of me. Time to bust out the tinfoil hats.


Tinfoil hats eh? Sounds like party time to me! Smile

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