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Seigerweiss
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Asphodel wrote:
Do they expect us to be faithful exactly like Hachiko, waiting for the next clue long after the game is dead?
Some people consider the game to be dead already after the monumental whining that happened the other day. So does that mean we're due to have something happen now? Razz

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dissentience
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alexromanenko wrote:
PaperbckWriter9 wrote:

No one deserves to have their real name posted at 4chan or anywhere else, whether you feel he provoked the PM or not. Maybe you would share a different tone if it happened to yourself?...


I know I'd definitely not like my name posted on 4chan, however I'd also like to play a game and get involved with the story rather than try to out the PM from day one and keep other people from enjoying the game.

dissentience definitely has some problems with not being able to let things go and an overinflated idea of his importance (see the numerous pages of rage on here and 5/Cool and now is probably behind Ilsa, all the while enacting some obsessed passive-aggressive attacks on the PM.


Yeah guys, I'm Ilsa. And I'm responsible for everything.

It's all me. I'm trying to take this down on my own. You caught me.

*edit* For the dumb and unenlightened out there, that was sarcasm, by the way.

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nomad
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 		Hey guys, we've got kind of a new clue.

In the NSE video there is an inscription:

C5ildren p/ogester8ne quiesc#nce toew$2 s0cial stabili*y e&nd.


And on the site with T-shirts:

HUMANS ARE NOT THEIR
RESOURCE{6$E:@&\x#vt4DMq9X
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AR>s29VrD1Wz8hcusU8j44!
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{S?3@33,4(:s\rRz8prmOBKRl3kM^
69o|F]~1#

So perhaps we can decipher it, using the first incryption to find out what the second says. But we haven't got much luck with it, probably because our English is not native.

Have you guys tried this?

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Nighthawk
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 		Besides the embedded message, is there actually anything wrong with what Ilsa did?

It's not a gamejack: they're using the game's content!

It's not a fabrication or a deception; it's using what's already out there. It just makes it easier to view the feed, it seems: don't have to go through the fake Google page, don't have to worry about moving the mouse, you can view it at the office 'cause it has no sound, etc...

It's no different than taking the video and posting it on YouTube, in my opinion.
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Seigerweiss
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Nighthawk wrote:
Besides the embedded message, is there actually anything wrong with what Ilsa did?

It's not a gamejack: they're using the game's content!

It's not a fabrication or a deception; it's using what's already out there. It just makes it easier to view the feed, it seems: don't have to go through the fake Google page, don't have to worry about moving the mouse, you can view it at the office 'cause it has no sound, etc...

It's no different than taking the video and posting it on YouTube, in my opinion.


I don't think it's the actual feed. Every time you go to it, she's lying down in the fetal position, sits up cross-legged and then raises her arms. It seems to loop that last bit over and over. There's no other activity -- no puking, no nakedness, no bags on heads. I think it's solely there for the embedded message.

No idea as to nomad's little puzzle. I see "social stability" in that first line of text, which makes me think that the NSE had a problem with that in their genetic engineering -- Junsui is certainly not stable.

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 		There is nakedness if you let it run long enough. I tabbed back after 10 or 15 minutes and she was naked in the semi-fetal position again.
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Seigerweiss
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Bruce wrote:
There is nakedness if you let it run long enough. I tabbed back after 10 or 15 minutes and she was naked in the semi-fetal position again.


My mistake, good sir! I shall bide my time and watch it in a few minutes. I just thought it was curious that, no matter how many times and how frequently you revisit the site, she's always lying on the floor.

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nomad wrote:
C5ildren p/ogester8ne quiesc#nce toew$2 s0cial stabili*y e&nd.


yea this was discussed a while ago

children progesterone quiescence ???? social stability

nice call on perhaps using that to determine a cypher though.
gonna try that in a min

Seigerweiss, neither of them are "live"
they're just made to appear that way and change video at random.

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kadomony
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kadomony wrote:
nomad wrote:
C5ildren p/ogester8ne quiesc#nce toew$2 s0cial stabili*y e&nd.


yea this was discussed a while ago

children progesterone quiescence ???? social stability

nice call on perhaps using that to determine a cypher though.
gonna try that in a min

Seigerweiss, neither of them are "live"
they're just made to appear that way and change video at random.


actually, nevermind about that cypher.
some letters in that line have different characters representing the same letter. wouldn't work.

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nomad
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Seigerweiss wrote:
Nighthawk wrote:
Besides the embedded message, is there actually anything wrong with what Ilsa did?

It's not a gamejack: they're using the game's content!

It's not a fabrication or a deception; it's using what's already out there. It just makes it easier to view the feed, it seems: don't have to go through the fake Google page, don't have to worry about moving the mouse, you can view it at the office 'cause it has no sound, etc...

It's no different than taking the video and posting it on YouTube, in my opinion.


I don't think it's the actual feed. Every time you go to it, she's lying down in the fetal position, sits up cross-legged and then raises her arms. It seems to loop that last bit over and over. There's no other activity -- no puking, no nakedness, no bags on heads. I think it's solely there for the embedded message.

No idea as to nomad's little puzzle. I see "social stability" in that first line of text, which makes me think that the NSE had a problem with that in their genetic engineering -- Junsui is certainly not stable.



Well, the first sentence can be read something like "Children progesterone quiescence towards social stability end", but this doesn't seem to make any sense.

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hollo
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nomad wrote:



Well, the first sentence can be read something like "Children progesterone quiescence towards social stability end", but this doesn't seem to make any sense.


Basic thought, maybe: Since quiescence is the period of time when the cells (I've seen it referred to progesterone) are stopped in time, that is not-dividing, maybe it's alluding to an idea that they're trying to modify the cells at an early stage (childhood) in order to make them age slower, leading to less chances for abnormal cell growth and cell mutations which would lead to diseases, and therefore make them "stable socially" by making people who aren't susceptible to such diseases, and therefore able to live a more peaceful life... ?

The "end" at the end of the sentence seems to me to be more like a "stop" in a telegram. Not an end pertaining to the actual meaning of the sentence, but more an acknowledgment that the sentence has ended.


kadomony wrote:
kadomony wrote:
nomad wrote:
C5ildren p/ogester8ne quiesc#nce toew$2 s0cial stabili*y e&nd.


yea this was discussed a while ago

children progesterone quiescence ???? social stability

nice call on perhaps using that to determine a cypher though.
gonna try that in a min

Seigerweiss, neither of them are "live"
they're just made to appear that way and change video at random.


actually, nevermind about that cypher.
some letters in that line have different characters representing the same letter. wouldn't work.


True, I was trying it but it doesn't work out. For one, that reason, and for two, there's just not enough symbols "known" to work it out.

There might be something else hidden in that large block of symbols, tho...

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Seigerweiss
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kadomony wrote:
Seigerweiss, neither of them are "live"
they're just made to appear that way and change video at random.


Yeah I know this, but at least the real "feed" has different sequences of events.

The feed with the embedded message to the PM follows the same cycle of events every time I've visited the site, even if you leave the site then go back to it it a second later. She's lying down, then sits up, crosses legs (almost in a lotus position) and raises both arms.

It's not important, but I thought I'd just point it out that it's not as varied as the fake Google feed. She's still sitting there in the same position now, and it's been about half an hour.

nomad wrote:
Well, the first sentence can be read something like "Children progesterone quiescence towards social stability end", but this doesn't seem to make any sense.


No, it doesn't. Funnily enough -- pure coincidence, this, by the way -- when I searched for "quiesc#nce" on Google, the first result mentioned GeneTherapy in the title. Otherwise a dead end.

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kadomony wrote:
kadomony wrote:
nomad wrote:
C5ildren p/ogester8ne quiesc#nce toew$2 s0cial stabili*y e&nd.


yea this was discussed a while ago

children progesterone quiescence ???? social stability

nice call on perhaps using that to determine a cypher though.
gonna try that in a min

Seigerweiss, neither of them are "live"
they're just made to appear that way and change video at random.


actually, nevermind about that cypher.
some letters in that line have different characters representing the same letter. wouldn't work.


It could be a simple repeating pad, you never know. Try doing an additive/subtractive or heck, even a bitwise transform on the coded text using that string as a repeated pad.

where n is an index from 0 to the length-of-cipher
deciphered[n] = ciphered-text[n] <op> cipher[n modulo length-of-cipher]
deciphered possibly is, well, decpihered.

That's what I'm trying to say here. Probably won't work, but it's worth a shot.

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Thalagyrt
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Thalagyrt wrote:
kadomony wrote:
kadomony wrote:
nomad wrote:
C5ildren p/ogester8ne quiesc#nce toew$2 s0cial stabili*y e&nd.


yea this was discussed a while ago

children progesterone quiescence ???? social stability

nice call on perhaps using that to determine a cypher though.
gonna try that in a min

Seigerweiss, neither of them are "live"
they're just made to appear that way and change video at random.


actually, nevermind about that cypher.
some letters in that line have different characters representing the same letter. wouldn't work.


It could be a simple repeating pad, you never know. Try doing an additive/subtractive or heck, even a bitwise transform on the coded text using that string as a repeated pad.

where n is an index from 0 to the length-of-cipher
deciphered[n] = ciphered-text[n] <op> cipher[n modulo length-of-cipher]
deciphered possibly is, well, decpihered.

That's what I'm trying to say here. Probably won't work, but it's worth a shot.


Correction.


where n is an index from 0 to the length-of-ciphered
deciphered[n] = ciphered-text[n] <op> cipher[n modulo length-of-cipher]
deciphered possibly is, well, decpihered.

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alexromanenko wrote:

I know I'd definitely not like my name posted on 4chan, however I'd also like to play a game and get involved with the story rather than try to out the PM from day one and keep other people from enjoying the game.

I will kindly refer you to actually read from the begining of the thread because you are incorrect. The PM kept me form enjoying the game from the get go by not wanting us to post here in the first place. Then the PM took it upon himself to post the real names of 3 uF members before all the meta & before Diss's real name was spoken. That's 4 now by my count & anyone who it has affected has every right to be upset by it. This game has been a bit of a cluster f--k from the begining & to tell the truth it's on the PM.
With that said, let's please the stop name calling here & accusing people of who's a gamejack or not. [/rant]

Oh, & please stop double posting. It's driving me crazy. If you are registered here, please use the edit button. If you're a guest, well then register... it's worth it.
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