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Deiwos
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Ad_Arcana_Tutanda wrote:
Thundersome wrote:
While I think its true we have to affiliate with MoT and AT more, Mr. Dubrovin is requesting our aid on figuring things out. I think we now have sufficient reason to know there are still puzzles and clues hidden within the media supplied, such as audio, video, and text, by The Junsui.

We have basically been charged with figuring that out now.

Maybe we should archive all coded livejournal messaged, all linked music vidoes and audio files etc in to one single place... so we can systematically examine it.


Exactly.

Which leads me to believe that the next step in this whole problemset is to piece everything we have so far together (even if it's not EVERYTHING), compile it in a nice word document or powerpoint (which I could do easily if suppllied all the information we have thus far, it's my job) and give it to Dubrovin. That way they can counteract on the Junsui which I believe would bring us to the next chapter in this story.

agreed?


Emphasis on everything, even if it isn't everything. Even things that don't look like they might be clues.

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 		Absolutely agreed!
Except we should probably dig through it a bit to see if we can find more clues, as well as handing all the data over to Mr. Dubrovin.

I'll get started compiling a heap of information as long as others agree to do the same and place it all in a single, easily accessible location.

Speaking of which... where will we put it all? Even the "What we already know" thread is rather chaotic. And the Wiki lacks alot of information and hasnt been updated in nearly a week.

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Ad_Arcana_Tutanda wrote:


Exactly.

Which leads me to believe that the next step in this whole problemset is to piece everything we have so far together (even if it's not EVERYTHING), compile it in a nice word document or powerpoint (which I could do easily if suppllied all the information we have thus far, it's my job) and give it to Dubrovin. That way they can counteract on the Junsui which I believe would bring us to the next chapter in this story.

agreed?

This sounds like a great idea to me. Should we throw in wiki content?

EDIT: I also think that we should compile what we have now and give that to him. Better to do it right away and then work on an addition IMO.

Another question: how much should we tell Dubrovin? Should we mention the security camera in Alfa-Tsentr?

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Obfuscatus wrote:
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=150873840030#/topic.php?uid=150873840030&topic=10337

Important stuff happening. If anyone has any audio files related to this it looks like there is an effort at finding hidden messages in them. This has developed within the last 2 hours.


I have been made aware that the search for hidden messages in MP3 files is part of the deception and disinformation tactics they are employing.

On the other side, Dubrovin keeps sending me messages with big words that make my head spin:

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Mr. Flor:

Let it go without saying, in the spirit of one individual to another of a similar mind, that my access to information with reference to this group is somewhat analogous to my level of annoyance as pertains to the public alacrity based around their existence.

I can do little but to implore you, and your voice in the communities with who you can place some level of trust to continue to delve. What I can find, through my own channels, I shall, of course, pass back on to you and other with whom I know I may place such trust.

Regards,
A. Dubrovin


He's got the thesaurus turned up to eleven.

I am starting to really hate this "game"...
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 		"Alacrity", "delve", and "implore" are SAT words; nothing too serious there.

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 		Are you saying that MoT are deceitfully telling people to search through audio data, when that is a false-lead?
And who have you been informed of this by?

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 		Oh fine. I registered. Stupid post limit. *grumble*

Nighthawk wrote:



Quote:
Mr. Flor:

Let it go without saying, in the spirit of one individual to another of a similar mind, that my access to information with reference to this group is somewhat analogous to my level of annoyance as pertains to the public alacrity based around their existence.

I can do little but to implore you, and your voice in the communities with who you can place some level of trust to continue to delve. What I can find, through my own channels, I shall, of course, pass back on to you and other with whom I know I may place such trust.

Regards,
A. Dubrovin


He's got the thesaurus turned up to eleven.

I am starting to really hate this "game"...


There are those with such upbringing that they abhor to lower themselves to the brutish, limited vocabulary of the simple masses.

In any case, translation:

Let me assure you, man to man, that my level of knowledge of this group is as high as the level of my annoyance regarding the enthusiasm the public show for them.

There isn't much I can do but ask you and those you trust to continue to look for information. I will pass anything I can find onto you and those I know are trustworthy.

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Thundersome wrote:
Are you saying that MoT are deceitfully telling people to search through audio data, when that is a false-lead?
And who have you been informed of this by?


I've been getting reports that The Junsui are asking their followers to spread false information that clues are contained within sound files.

I don't want to elaborate on the source.
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Soulmech wrote:
Ad_Arcana_Tutanda wrote:


Exactly.

Which leads me to believe that the next step in this whole problemset is to piece everything we have so far together (even if it's not EVERYTHING), compile it in a nice word document or powerpoint (which I could do easily if suppllied all the information we have thus far, it's my job) and give it to Dubrovin. That way they can counteract on the Junsui which I believe would bring us to the next chapter in this story.

agreed?

This sounds like a great idea to me. Should we throw in wiki content?

EDIT: I also think that we should compile what we have now and give that to him. Better to do it right away and then work on an addition IMO.

Another question: how much should we tell Dubrovin? Should we mention the security camera in Alfa-Tsentr?


The way I see it, I think we should give everything over to Mr. Dubrovin. I really think that going with him is the way to get to the bottom of everything. I'm going to make a new thread called Intel to pass off to Mr. Dubrovin. There, let's make a cleaner more cut and dry listing of FACTS, and assessments which we believe to be accurate at this moment. I'll compile everything into pretty pictures, word documents, and powerpoints, whatever is deemed necessary (hell, that's my day to day job).

I believe that that is what we need to do to get to the next chapter of this scenario.

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 		From MoT's FB group:

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As far as the notes on the fake google go, they are:
D#, F, G, A#, C, G
With differences in semitones as:
root, +1, +1, +2, +1, -5

This is a D# major scale.


It might just be me, but in all my years of piano and theory, I have NEVER heard of the Eb scale being referred to as the "D# scale".

While Eb and D# are the same thing, writing the scale out the way that he is doing it would require adding in double-sharps.

Not sure if this means anything, but anyone who knows to call a half-step a "semitone" should know that.

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 		Please also make it very clear that the Intel thread is not for discussion in, as this one is.

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Ad_Arcana_Tutanda wrote:

Which leads me to believe that the next step in this whole problemset is to piece everything we have so far together (even if it's not EVERYTHING), compile it in a nice word document or powerpoint (which I could do easily if suppllied all the information we have thus far, it's my job) and give it to Dubrovin. That way they can counteract on the Junsui which I believe would bring us to the next chapter in this story.

agreed?


Yes! I belive this is exactly what we need to do. All of the information is so scattered at the moment that it's difficult to piece together. I still believe we're missing something with the garbled text and fragments of URL, so it would be helpful to get it all together.

Where do we start? With the information in the Wiki from the very beginning or start with the past few days and work backwards?

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Deiwos wrote:
Please also make it very clear that the Intel thread is not for discussion in, as this one is.


EXACTLY.

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Nighthawk wrote:
Thundersome wrote:
Are you saying that MoT are deceitfully telling people to search through audio data, when that is a false-lead?
And who have you been informed of this by?


I've been getting reports that The Junsui are asking their followers to spread false information that clues are contained within sound files.

I don't want to elaborate on the source.


We getcha. What then? Pictures? Lots of new pictures on FB. There's also the old shot of Gswach-whatever and a guy in a tophat. The FB pics seems like a foil to me but thats just my gut. The coordinate puzzle? The only other thing I can think is that it would be easy to change up things that already exist to include hidden messages in which case we should remain vigilant. For example the camera feed could have something new hidden in it. I do know there are a few pieces of footage there that weren't before. Maybe someone should look through the fake Google swf again.

I still like the idea of compiling all media in one place, it was a good suggestion. I put forward that we may lack the ability to sort the truth from lies, and may therefore need to just go through ALL of it, brute force it, and when we have dissected it all go through the data at that time.

EDIT: it might be helpful to send all info to Ad_Arcana_Tutanda so that w don't get double posting and a bunch of clutter. Is that acceptable to you Arcana?

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