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Thundersome
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Soulmech wrote:
From MoT's FB group:

Quote:
As far as the notes on the fake google go, they are:
D#, F, G, A#, C, G
With differences in semitones as:
root, +1, +1, +2, +1, -5

This is a D# major scale.


It might just be me, but in all my years of piano and theory, I have NEVER heard of the Eb scale being referred to as the "D# scale".

While Eb and D# are the same thing, writing the scale out the way that he is doing it would require adding in double-sharps.

Not sure if this means anything, but anyone who knows to call a half-step a "semitone" should know that.


And as a guitarist... the first note played is actually a C.
Making it a C-Minor Pentatonic scale.

EDIT:
And Nighthawk... if you are not willing to elaborate on your source, do you mind if I ask why don't we just assume what you say is misinformation too? I apprecitate your prior involvement, but does that mean we should stop looking?
Also... should we inform the Men Of Taste that they are chasing a red-herring?

PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:19 pm
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Ad_Arcana_Tutanda
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Obfuscatus wrote:
Nighthawk wrote:
Thundersome wrote:
Are you saying that MoT are deceitfully telling people to search through audio data, when that is a false-lead?
And who have you been informed of this by?


I've been getting reports that The Junsui are asking their followers to spread false information that clues are contained within sound files.

I don't want to elaborate on the source.


We getcha. What then? Pictures? Lots of new pictures on FB. There's also the old shot of Gswach-whatever and a guy in a tophat. The FB pics seems like a foil to me but thats just my gut. The coordinate puzzle? The only other thing I can think is that it would be easy to change up things that already exist to include hidden messages in which case we should remain vigilant. For example the camera feed could have something new hidden in it. I do know there are a few pieces of footage there that weren't before. Maybe someone should look through the fake Google swf again.

I still like the idea of compiling all media in one place, it was a good suggestion. I put forward that we may lack the ability to sort the truth from lies, and may therefore need to just go through ALL of it, brute force it, and when we have dissected it all go through the data at that time.

EDIT: it might be helpful to send all info to Ad_Arcana_Tutanda so that w don't get double posting and a bunch of clutter. Is that acceptable to you Arcana?


I just made the intel thread.

We'll post what we know and what we believe to be true there, and then after compiling it, we'll try to seperate fact from crap, so that way I can say "this is what we know, and this is what we assess to be true".

Problem solved.

Just be sure that the intel thread is not a discussion thread, and try not to double post in there (although I completely understand it's almost unavoidable Razz)

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Soulmech
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Thundersome wrote:
Soulmech wrote:
From MoT's FB group:

Quote:
As far as the notes on the fake google go, they are:
D#, F, G, A#, C, G
With differences in semitones as:
root, +1, +1, +2, +1, -5

This is a D# major scale.


It might just be me, but in all my years of piano and theory, I have NEVER heard of the Eb scale being referred to as the "D# scale".

While Eb and D# are the same thing, writing the scale out the way that he is doing it would require adding in double-sharps.

Not sure if this means anything, but anyone who knows to call a half-step a "semitone" should know that.


And as a guitarist... the first note played is actually a C.
Making it a C-Minor Pentatonic scale.

EDIT:
And Nighthawk... if you are not willing to elaborate on your source, do you mind if I ask why don't we just assume what you say is misinformation too? I apprecitate your prior involvement, but does that mean we should stop looking?
Also... should we inform the Men Of Taste that they are chasing a red-herring?

I think he's already informed them.

Also, should we correct them on the scale or not? Not sure how important it is.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:33 pm
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Obfuscatus
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 		If there's no time limit people can just edit their own posts, including your original post.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:35 pm
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Expdragon
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 		Has anyone emailed the Japanese health site?

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Ad_Arcana_Tutanda
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Expdragon wrote:
Has anyone emailed the Japanese health site?


Yes, I emailed an inquiry of some more in depth information about their company, and all I recieved was an auto respond about how they're no longer sending out collection kits...

who knows though, maybe someone else will have better luck contacting them like a few of us have had with MoT???

It's worth a shot.

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Expdragon
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 		I emailed them and got the auto response and then emailed them again hoping for a better reply.

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Deiwos
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 		By the way, anyone have any idea what the Junsui means by 'JETZ' in the latest FB post?

Also, the 'avatar' of the Junsui is now Rhea rather than the old painting.

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Thundersome
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 		The scale doesn't seem too important. The rhythm had me interested... but i'm 99% sure its not morse or anything. Finding numerical value would be tough too, as even if it used a full 7-note scale, we couldn't derive a date from it or anything. I've had a quick glimpse at other ideas, but not really put too much effort into decoding it... if indeed it is coded. It just seems like if it were supposed to be decoded, it would be something slightly more obvious.

I saw just after posting that, that he had indeed informed MoT of the audio misinformation.

"JETZ!"... means "NOW!"

Just another command to watch the stream...
These such commands have been rising in frequency as of late.
"WATCH!" "LISTEN!" etc etc....

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Soulmech
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 		The reasons why I am concerned with the scale are:

1) An IG character (I think he's IG) posted the scale without anyone bringing it up

2) This same character made a few glaring errors when writing out the scale

It looks so much like a red herring to me, though.

PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:59 pm
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Thundersome
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 		I brought the scale up.

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Soulmech
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Thundersome wrote:
I brought the scale up.

You're right; I stand corrected. Don't know how I missed that. Sad

PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:10 am
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JDN
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 		cautionary
I would strongly suggest receiving something in return for full compilation and disclosure of what we know here. I would suggest specifically access to the alfa-tsentr site. if not for all of us at least for the person disclosing our info on the Junsui to the MoT/Dubrovin.
Why hand over all of our work without something in return? That just seems foolhearty to me.
If MoT are unwilling to grant access to their site, perhaps they would be more inclined to give intel that would help us access the Japanese New health site.
Also it may be prudent to keep at least something of value from the MoT as an ace in the hole should their traded info turn out to be useless.

p.s. I just moved to Tacoma heyoo!

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Ichi
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 		Has anyone emailed Dubrovin asking anything about the black hundreds and what he knows about them. Several things here have pointed back to the black hundreds, maybe someone should ask, I have already inquired him as to the lyrics found in the now deleted myspace page of JJ.

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inkcartridgefuneral
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Ichi wrote:
Has anyone emailed Dubrovin asking anything about the black hundreds and what he knows about them. Several things here have pointed back to the black hundreds, maybe someone should ask, I have already inquired him as to the lyrics found in the now deleted myspace page of JJ.

Hmm, I had wondered about that. Theres alot of symbolism/ similarity between the two.

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