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Soulmech
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Second thought: Maybe revolution expecting is an anagram? Try separating the lower and upper case letters.


Did that last night several times over with no results, but I may have missed something. The word "OUTTER" did jump out at me when viewing the uppercase letters, though.

Route T? True To? I can't make much sense of it.

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 		haha this is gonna be a tough one.
we supposedly have everything we need to crack a code, but we dont know what code goes where or even if the code isn't encoded itself Razz

or its really simple and we're totally missing it lol

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konamouse wrote:
Any possible stegged images?


I can only think of the kitsune one as holding any info.

-It hasn't been posted on facebook by the Junsui (FB alters image data)
-It's in a lossless format, which is common for stegging data
-It's in monochrome, so alterations in image data would be hard to see, if it is encoded
-It's on a Junsui site
-It has other info on it that's more visible

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 		I think there may have been an error with my reading of R F NOC:1
gotta look into this

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 		Usually these things are easier/more visible than you expect them to be.

What about the "shield" picture with Azef's name that was posted a while back?

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 		What about something like this?
http://www.headlineshirts.net/catalog/product/gallery/id/2205/image/1314/

Or the other shirt.

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 		Just checked that shield. There's actually a rar hidden it.
The password is "azef" and yields the key cipher.
Useless now, since we have the midi site.

edit: it's DEFINITELY NOC:1

Just had an idea about the first two characters "R F"
Dubrovin had mentioned Schumann.
Schumann always started off his coded messages with his initials.
2 letters.

SO, since the timing between the 2 letters and the rest is unique, and not codeable from that midi site, I'm thinking R F are someone's initials; an identifier of who's sending the message. Followed by the actual message of NOC:1

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Kosvinsky Mountain (Russian: Косвинский камень), is in the Urals near the locality of Kytlym, Sverdlovsk Oblast and is reputed to be the site of a nuclear-survivable strategic command post used by the Russian Strategic Rocket Forces as an alternate command post site.[1]. In early 1996 it was reported that Russia had finished the new underground command and control center at Kosvinsky Mountain. Said to be designed to resist US earth-penetrating warheads. The Washington Times citing a 1997 CIA report obtained by the paper, has reported that the facility is said to be equal to the American Cheyenne Mountain Complex [1].


the See Also link led to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Yamantaw

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Mount Yamantaw
Part of Armed forces of the Russian Federation
Mezhgorye, Republic of Bashkortostan, Russia
Type Underground military facility
Coordinates 54°15′18″N 58°06′07″E / 54.255°N 58.102°E / 54.255; 58.102Coordinates: 54°15′18″N 58°06′07″E / 54.255°N 58.102°E / 54.255; 58.102
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Mount Yamantaw
Elevation 1,640 metres (5,381 ft)
Location Republic of Bashkortostan, Russia
Range Ural Mountains
Coordinates 54°15′18″N 58°06′07″E / 54.255°N 58.102°E / 54.255; 58.102

Mount Yamantaw (Russian: гора Ямантау) is in the Ural Mountains, Bashkortostan, Russia. The name means evil mountain in the Bashkir language. It is also known as Mount Yamantau. It stands at 1,640 metres (5,381 ft) and is the highest mountain in the southern Urals. Along with Kosvinsky Mountain (600 km to the north), it is suspected by the United States of being a large secret nuclear facility and/or bunker.[1] The closed military town of Mezhgorye (Russian: Межгорье) is situated nearby. As late as 2003, Yamantaw was not yet fully operational.[1]

Large excavation projects have been observed by U.S. satellite imagery as recently as the late 1990s, during the time of Boris Yeltsin's pro-Western government after the fall of the Soviet Union.[1] Two garrisons, Beloretsk-15 and Beloretsk-16, were built on top of the facility, and possibly a third, Alkino-2, as well, and became the closed town of Mezhgorye in 1995. They are said to house 30,000 workers each. Repeated U.S. questions have yielded several different responses from the Russian government regarding Mount Yamantaw.[2] They have said it is a mining site, a repository for Russian treasures, a food storage area, and a bunker for leaders in case of nuclear war.[3] Responding to questions regarding Yamantaw in 1996, Russia's Defense Ministry stated: "The practice does not exist in the Defense Ministry of Russia of informing foreign mass media about facilities, whatever they are, that are under construction in the interests of strengthening the security of Russia."[3] Large rail lines serve the facility.[3]

Mount Yamantaw is near one of Russia's last remaining nuclear labs, Chelyabinsk-70, raising speculation that it already houses nuclear weapons. Russian newspapers reported in 1996 that it is a part of the "Dead Hand" nuclear retaliatory command structure.

On a visit to Russia, former U.S. Congressman Curt Weldon (R-PA), who had been following the story since 1995, asked about the mountain. "I went to Moscow and spoke with the deputy interior minister who was in charge of mining," Weldon said. "I asked him if there was any mining activity there. He just shook his head and said he had never heard of it. So I mentioned the other name the Russians use for it: Mezhgorye. He said he hadn't heard of that either. Then he sent an aide out to check. Twenty minutes later, the aide came back, visibly shaken. He said they couldn't say anything about it."[4]


I'm posting that in case that gets deleted as well... Stupid sour sport wiki nazi's. If it wasn't for people like us we'd all be speaking German... (/Grandpa's war stories)

does this help us any???

I'll start compiling it up to send to Mr. Dubrovin.

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 		Pretty unrelated for the most part but I thought it was interesting...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_town

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 		seriously, these guys are control freaks...

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The result was delete. deleteing because its unsourced despite efforts to do so Spartaz Humbug! 19:10, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Kosvinsky Mountain

Kosvinsky Mountain (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (delete) – (View log)
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Only a single source, no grounds for notability demonstrated. — Dædαlus Contribs 07:52, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

* Delete - article creator is also associated with the Alfa-Tsentr hoax article, this is likely related to their hoax. <>Multi-Xfer<> (talk) 08:08, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
* Keep. Actually appears to be a real place. My guess is that there are more sources than just the one on it. Protonk (talk) 09:01, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
* Keep and expand. It's a real geographic location and a notable Russian military site, to boot. youngamerican (wtf?) 11:45, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
* Keep: Per Youngamerican. Joe Chill (talk) 18:14, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
* Investigate more closely' there is no ru: page on Косвинский камень. There is no trace of either name in the NGA (?) database. We did not have an article about it which seems odd. The mention in Washington PostTimes seems legit, but
1. Can't we at least find the original article?
2. We know how inaccurate some CIA documents are...
3. We don't know if this was a genuine document, even if the Wash PostTimes article is genuine (although it appears to be).

Subsequent mentions may rely onthat article. Rich Farmbrough, 19:48, 18 August 2009 (UTC).

A perusal of the sources shown in the 'find sources' template above should immediately alleviate those concerns. Protonk (talk) 20:38, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

OK take a look at "Scholar" - 4 cites

1. a book by the author of the W. Times article - Bill Gertz.
2. A Military article! Must be correct but the wording is so familiar " A separate facility at nearby Kosvinsky Mountain is believed to be a Russian version of the Cheyenne Mountain Operations Center, but, unlike the 1950s-era US command post, one capable of surviving a modern thermonuclear weapon assault. " and the cite is... 51. Bill Gertz, "Moscow Builds Bunkers against Nuclear Attack," Washington Times, 1 April 1997, p. 1.
3. This military document says "According to recent CIA reports a new rocket complex" is being built there - strange we thought it was a command centre? The footnote will undoubtedly lead us to the CIA report, though we may not be permitted to see it.... Hm.. wait a second "91. Carey Scott, "Kremlin Refurbishes Nuclear Bunkers as Fear of NATO Grows," Sunday Times (London), 13 April 1997. a week or so after Gertz' article, unfortuantly the source is not readily available online - but it seems unlikely that Carey had access to the CIA report and more probable that he was citing Bill Gertz.
4. A book about re-engineering a navel system "Transitioning NAVSEA to the future: strategy, business, organization" says there is "substantial evidence" but only cites "US Naval Institute 1999" - we may by now believe this cite is a document similar to 2 or 3 above.

So nothing there in Scholar of any substance (unless we can trace the cite for 4, and even then we may be "unlucky"). I have previously looked extensively and although there are plenty of eminent people mentioning it (for example asking questions in House Committees (?)(forgive my ignorance of the American government), there is, alas, so far, no sign that they know what they are talking about. Rich Farmbrough, 16:28, 21 August 2009 (UTC).

That the dateline of the article is 1 April may be irrelevant. Rich Farmbrough, 16:46, 21 August 2009 (UTC).
See Talk:Kosvinsky Mountain for a 1996 news item. Also a later item that says these facilities were started in the 1970s, contradicting, I think, the 1997 article, and raising fresh questions. Rich Farmbrough, 18:10, 21 August 2009 (UTC).
Full copy of 4 at http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA409194&Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf. Rich Farmbrough, 18:26, 21 August 2009 (UTC).

only US Naval Institute cite(undated) is www.militaryperiscope.com "... researchers review information daily from hundreds of media sources worldwide. " In other words, refactored news reports of the kind we saw above. Rich Farmbrough, 18:36, 21 August 2009 (UTC).

I subscribed to Militaryperiscope, no hits on their database. Rich Farmbrough, 18:41, 21 August 2009 (UTC).

* Keep The way the government here in the USA is run, Wikipedia may need to serve as a storehouse of critical intelligence and strategic data. ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:42, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
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 		I apologize for the shotgun blast of posts, but this was just a little insight from personal knowledge...

There are ALOT of locales within the Russian Federation like this of which even within our intel communities we have NO EFFING IDEA what the hell they're doing there. We can tell the sites go down stories underground but have no way of knowing what's really there. Creepy, but true.

But then again, it's not like we don't have similar facilities. Russia's are just much more numerous.

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 		Just in case no one is watching the facebook thread...
New FB post but it seems that no one is really paying attention to that thread anymore.

The Junsui IS WAITING FOR DARK CLOUD TO PASS BY. SILENCE AND FOCUS. BE WATCHFUL.

So far all comments in Spanish.

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 		Re: Just in case no one is watching the facebook thread...
Amaranth wrote:

The Junsui IS WAITING FOR DARK CLOUD TO PASS BY. SILENCE AND FOCUS. BE WATCHFUL.


That could mean we're onto something and they're hoping we get distracted...or it could just be more random shit. Who knows?

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 		[quote="kadomony"]
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Ok so we know the Rit rune means ceremony, or ritual.

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Think there's a mistake here. I couldn't find any reference to "Rit" being used for "ceremony."
The only thing I saw rit meaning is "Raida" or "ride,journey"


I see what you are saying. I recognize the meaning resa/ride from my own rune set. BUT Armanen runes does not share the standard rune's interpretation. I should know, I have read runes for half my life.


BTW, we should have a thread for speculating about this pagan stuff. So I went ahead and created one.

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