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BooleanEarth
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Soulmech wrote:
I think we need a refresh.

Our latest clues are these two images and the "little bird perched in dark corner 77" (or something like that).

Is there anything else? Which direction do we go in now?


Ok, so the images where we got that message from were the locks, right? And the locks and keys were supposed to be used by the Junsui to hide their message from defilers/khozains/A-T/us. This being the case, it seems we can conclude that "77 little bird perched in dark corner" is either the message, or a part of it. Now we were told by Dubrovin that we had to find this message urgently because the Junsui were going to attack, yes? So now that we have their message, it seems we need to figure out how it relates to their attack? If we assume Dubrovin isn't lying to us (and I see no reason not to), then that would be the logical course of action. The problem with this is that's the same thing, practically speaking, as figuring out what the message means. We need to decode it, I guess? The easiest way to do that, I would think, would be to try to develop some idea of what information it might convey and then apply that to search through all the information we already have (here I assume we don't have to wait for something new). But how to do that? Oh, how indeed.

Edit: on another note, we also have all those clues about the water ritual, right? Now objectively speaking we have no idea what's going on. We each have our theories, but there's very little information to back up most of them. What we DO know is that something big involving water is going to happen, presumably on the solstice...unless we prevent it? Do we want to prevent it? I think I do. We have plenty of time until the solstice. I mean PLENTY of time. So that would give the impression that there's probably a lot more we need to do before that point. Is it safe to assume the message is the next puzzle?

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Orions_arrows
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 		on the image topic.

the images posted on wooloo gave me a little insight that might be valuable for data expectation purposes.

i figured out that there are gaps in the postings. there seems to be a "standard" way that Gwaschemasch'e Efendi posts.

ie. album01, album02, etc.

i was goofing around for a bit and realized that there were some gaps.

using:
http://www.wooloo.org/public/userfiles/gwaschemasche/images/album01.jpg
as a base URL, i figured out that album 01, 02, 03, 07, and 08 work.

i'm still working on finding the "posting standard" for the other images on the site to see if anything interesting happens.

i don't know if this actually means anything, or gives warning for known unknowns and what-not, but just some data

Smile

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Quote:
Mr. Flor. Forgive my brevity as I am restricted presently to phone. Basil Florentine seems to be pseudonym used by multiple people since start of terrorists campaign. At present A-T considers these individuals low value targets. Regarding disclosure of your name in uF we apologize since message to Tutanda was not intended for public disclosure. However know that we do advise you use more discretion when handling these affairs. We understand your excitement during some situations but broadcasting or adding hyperbole rarely increases focus of a team doing analysis work. – A.D.

Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T


I'm going to assume, for now, that Basil Florentine was an error. But, just to be thorough, I asked for confirmation of that.

Either way, I take that to mean to forget about Basil.
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Orions_arrows
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Orions_arrows wrote:
on the image topic.

the images posted on wooloo gave me a little insight that might be valuable for data expectation purposes.

i figured out that there are gaps in the postings. there seems to be a "standard" way that Gwaschemasch'e Efendi posts.

ie. album01, album02, etc.

i was goofing around for a bit and realized that there were some gaps.

using:
http://www.wooloo.org/public/userfiles/gwaschemasche/images/album01.jpg
as a base URL, i figured out that album 01, 02, 03, 07, and 08 work.

i'm still working on finding the "posting standard" for the other images on the site to see if anything interesting happens.

i don't know if this actually means anything, or gives warning for known unknowns and what-not, but just some data

Smile


i bring links...

also disregard previous post... pretty nonstandard naming convention

http://www.wooloo.org/public/userfiles/gwaschemasche/images/palace.jpg
http://www.wooloo.org/public/userfiles/gwaschemasche/images/album01.jpg
http://www.wooloo.org/public/userfiles/gwaschemasche/images/album08.jpg
http://www.wooloo.org/public/userfiles/gwaschemasche/images/album07.jpg
http://www.wooloo.org/public/userfiles/gwaschemasche/images/album03.jpg
http://www.wooloo.org/public/userfiles/gwaschemasche/images/album02.jpg
http://www.wooloo.org/public/userfiles/gwaschemasche/images/painting_circassian01.jpg
http://www.wooloo.org/public/userfiles/gwaschemasche/images/photo_circassian01.jpg
http://www.wooloo.org/public/userfiles/gwaschemasche/images/photo_circassian03.jpg
http://www.wooloo.org/public/userfiles/gwaschemasche/images/01_abdulhamid_C.jpg
http://www.wooloo.org/public/userfiles/gwaschemasche/images/01_abdulhamid_B.jpg
http://www.wooloo.org/public/userfiles/gwaschemasche/images/01_abdulhamid_01.jpg

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 		 lulz
so I thought I'd check revision histories for Alejandro Cao on his wikipedia article.... A lot of people have been active on it within the last six months.


If anybody wants to check if he's in-game or not, feel free to give him a call:
Contact him directly via him telephone: +34 616 496 994 or via snail mail at his home address (when he's not at the Embassy of North Korea in Bangkok): C/Moles 8, E-43763 Vespella Gaia, Tarragona Catalunya Spain.

Cao de Benos has aparments in Spain (above), Bangkok, and Pyongyang.


don't believe this is real?
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alejandro_Cao_de_Benos_de_Les_y_P%C3%A9rez&diff=290308454&oldid=290308381

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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 		Response from Dubrovin in regard to the error above...

Quote:
Yes, Basil VALENTINE. I apologize. I have been many hours without sleep and now have to depart my plane for a meeting with the Deputy Interior Minister of Chile. – A.D.

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THE ORIGIN
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 		i don't know if this actually means anything, or gives warning for known unknowns and what-not, but just some data

:)[/quote]


I fond latest alpha tsentr video OMG!: http://www.wooloo.org/wooloo-tv/10897/125524

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THE ORIGIN wrote:
i don't know if this actually means anything, or gives warning for known unknowns and what-not, but just some data

Smile



I fond latest alpha tsentr video OMG!: http://www.wooloo.org/wooloo-tv/10897/125524






..............................................

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 		Probably this has nothing to do with this.
But, while i' ve been watching that strange video. I feel somthing about it.
So i did a little research, about Andrzej-Rafalowicz

http://www.artslant.com/global/artists/show/60512-andrzej-rafalowicz

If you see his paintings.. the most of it has a strange number patterns:

http://old.likeyou.com/artistsbios/artist.php?a=351
Maybe those are some kind of coordinates


Sorry if this has nothing to do with it.

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Nighthawk wrote:
Response from Dubrovin in regard to the error above...

Quote:
Yes, Basil VALENTINE. I apologize. I have been many hours without sleep and now have to depart my plane for a meeting with the Deputy Interior Minister of Chile. – A.D.


Ok you guys know I have been here since pretty much the beginning... so don't shout that I'm feeding disinformation... but I have been wondering about the whole Chile connection... and where that comes into play...

Seeing how this PM seems to try and blur IG/OOG events I found it interesting this morning as I listened to the radio that Chile just issued arrest warrents for people from the Pinochet regime... here's a link to an ap article:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iwSfEVflEqp-8J6i0xnDzcenjDdwD9AEPAFG4

Perhaps Mr Dobrovin had 'something' to do with that? Take it for what you will... I just thought I'd throw it out there...

EDIT: God god I just read the last couple of posts again and I just want to say once again my post is a legitimate question and at the very least Dobrovin could be asked if that was why he was in Chile

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Soulmech wrote:
I think we need a refresh.

Our latest clues are these two images and the "little bird perched in dark corner 77" (or something like that).

Is there anything else? Which direction do we go in now?


The following is the latest from Mr. Dubrovin

The first paragrah I'm just going to paraphrase... the success rate we've had within the past 72 hours is making A-T wonder whether or not they should allocate efforts elsewhere due to the steep decline in productivity as of late.

Bottom line: we need to step it up and weed out the unneeded tangents.

Quote:
There is a lot of rubbish information gathered there in that forum. But I would advise checking it for known associations of the target that might have been established previously. Marckesano hardly an expert criminal. He is one party to the terrorists' communication system and your people seem to have sure done a lot of idle chatter on him. Put that curiosity to good use. Find out who he might collaborate with if he was trying to conceal information. He must have stolen something valuable because our monitoring has been inundated with nonsense. Somebody wants us off the trail and so far I would say they have succeeded. The PE4 purchases in Hong Kong were corroborated today by the second detainee. The simple fact of the matter is that nobody has the the faintest notion who might have that ordinance now. Check Marckesano's associates. He couldn't be doing all his own technical execution, specifically any sophisticated obfuscation.

Regards,
A. Dubrovin

That should hopefully give us come clear guidance as to where our focus needs to be.

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 		I personally believe that we're falling victim to our own disinformation campaigns. As of late, we have been our own enemies.

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 		PE4 purchases - Dubrovin mentions this in his MoT posts. My understanding is that Alfa-Tsentr has sent a team to Japan in response to this. My question is, what kind of connections do we have that link to PE4 or Hong Kong in any way? I don't recall hearing about it before Dubrovin mentioned it.

I'm going to keep trying to talk to Patrick, see if I can get anywhere. I don't know how else to figure out who he's working with, unless we can get into homeostatic.net

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Ad_Arcana_Tutanda wrote:

The first paragrah I'm just going to paraphrase... the success rate we've had within the past 72 hours is making A-T wonder whether or not they should allocate efforts elsewhere due to the steep decline in productivity as of late.


yeah well, they haven't exactly given us a whole lot to work with. so screw 'em.

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 		I really kind of think we got muddled in our thought and we missed something which will constitute another facepalm... Everything we've missed thus far has been blindingly obvious in hindsight.

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