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[ZT] Twitter Intel: Sotpyrk and KJantiNWO
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ahaigonebananas
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 		Cleartext has been sent to John.

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:33 pm
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Lucavex
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 		Just a theory, but is it possible that Sotpyrk is infected with a dormant strain of Z1 (H1N1)? One that he/she knows will eventually mutate into Z1 and send him on a killing rampage? If that were true, perhaps his hatred of humanity comes from the fact that he knows there's nothing that can be done. Being able to contact members of the KRF Group in person, is it possible he's an associate among them, and knows something we don't?

Again, just something that dawned on me.

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 		AbbyPapanai
'AbbyPapanai-I hope that I've made myself clear'

makes it seem like she wants us, based on her previous 2 posts, tell Sotpyrk that we're a united front

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 		With the constant space references, and the comments that insinuate he is aside from humanity i'm going to with thinking if not a human infected with a superior strain of virus he is certainly another life form.

With all of this talk of trailing between two worlds and the creator arriving it seems as though its pointing at least partially to the alien card.

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Kefrus wrote:
With the constant space references, and the comments that insinuate he is aside from humanity i'm going to with thinking if not a human infected with a superior strain of virus he is certainly another life form.

With all of this talk of trailing between two worlds and the creator arriving it seems as though its pointing at least partially to the alien card.


Or perhaps believes that he is, because the creator told him so.

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grokken wrote:
Kefrus wrote:
With the constant space references, and the comments that insinuate he is aside from humanity i'm going to with thinking if not a human infected with a superior strain of virus he is certainly another life form.

With all of this talk of trailing between two worlds and the creator arriving it seems as though its pointing at least partially to the alien card.


Or perhaps believes that he is, because the creator told him so.


<insert Buffy The Vampire Slayer's "I've got a theory" musical score here>

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dangermonkey
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 		KJantiNWO
I will be posting some info on the IG SC mssg boards. I received a request from Abby to call John tonight in regards to KJ. I discussed what information I've gotten from KJ, and how he seems to warm up more and more, but how I haven't found that angle yet to get him to open up and trust me.
Here's the info they do have. They are almost positive that KJ is a person who was hired as an outside contractor to do HTML stuff (that we pretty much knew). He was let go for what sounded like a misuse of information. He became too"fascinated" with fellow employees and abused his access to certain information to his advantage. Sounds like a sexual harassment type thing to me.
John stressed that it's of utmost importance to figure out who KJ's connection is. (Or was, I suppose.) He said if KJ is the person he thinks he is, he is the type to be easily suede by a movement or group that will give him hope that things can be reversed- particularly if that group offers him a way out or some sort of concrete redemption.
John thinks that having a bunch of people contacting him from various angles could be enabling KJ's paranoia, so we need to really unify our methods. We should also not mention the personal things we know about KJ to him, or he'll be prone to get overly paranoid and shut down. My method with him has been direct messages, to establish a relationship with him and give him the feeling that he is having a private conversation. I find that he divulges more information that way.

I also brought up Sotpyrk, and the network issues. My concern was that the network issues could have let something out, but John's belief is that it was solely to cripple them for a few days, which it did. He said they're not sure what the meaning of the coded messages are (as in, their purpose), but as long as Sotpyrk is sending them, there is the possibility that he will eventually slip up and reveal his identity or something that could be connected to his identity. He even suggested possibly finding a way to bait them by getting them to think that we'll pull a KJ and give away some goods to them. Just a thought.

Like I said, a lot of this will be in the IG SC board. Any brainstorms are welcomed!

On a side note, I always get tickled with these calls. I'll give my first name and say aka "Dangermonkey", but it is unbelievably hard to not giggle when identifying myself as dangermonkey. Laughing

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 		Wow, great stuff, folks. Glad we're moving on again!

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 		I wanted to post Abby's IG response for those of you not in SC.

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I agree that we are missing something. KJ seems lost and Sotpyrk is a jerk but we need both of them to talk. It seems like brick walls everywhere we turn. Something different has to happen for us to have any hope.

I think KJ will be easier to break but he probably knows less than Sotpyrk. I think if KJ had an independent group to turn to for support he might open up. He seems like the "follower" type and that is probably why he got suckered in the first place. Maybe you could create a front of some kind, build a web page, and reach out to him for recruitment. People always like it when they feel special.

Sotpyrk is going to be tough. His taunts aren't revealing much but it is more than we knew before he started this. Maybe he can be tricked into taking some kind of bait too - if there is a tempting enough target. I don't know. Creativity and teamwork is really our only hope.


I think the website is an excellent idea, and we should run with this. Thoughts?

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scotgaz
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 		@dangermonkey yeah i totally agree with a website to get KJ onside, I,ve never made a site before but would be willing to give it a try if no one else has the time, might need a few pointers though...

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 		I had an idea and DM'd Abby about it. Since these boards are OOG, I can talk about it here :p A fake public falling out with abby so I can go to Sotpyrk or KJ as a defector

Might be fun. Might be a dumb idea. Who knows?
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scotgaz
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 		i think possibly combining the two above ideas would be a good move, someone breaking away from SC and opening up a new site to fight back against the "lies" we are being fed from ZombieTruth and the KRFgroup. i wouldn't invite KJ or sotpyrk directly, throw it around enough for them to notice, and let them think it's their idea to join.. thoughts?

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 		That does sound like a good idea. Having them "join" would be a good key.

We also need to think about what kind of information that we can give up to them as bait, especially Sotprk. Maybe we can get a "secret document" from Abby and offer that to him/her/it.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:48 pm
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scotgaz
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 		Ok I'm thinking, a few public tweets between abby and the person to leave, shortly after release the new site with only vague comments on how were being lied to, maybe hinting at the Z1 actually having been released by the KRF. but making it obvious that theres no actual proof or evidence. this may make one of them offer up something they know or have suspicions about....

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 		In addition to KJantiNWO's many recent tweets this is his reply to my asking who "the chosen" were:
KJantiNWO wrote:
@amandel77 500 people man. Just 500. Everything else will be wiped out and hunted down. We are like roaches to them. Will go out guns blazin


Please also post all replies to DMs to KJantiNWO on this thread. Thanks. From his tweets I'm reading he believes that the KRF Group is indeed trying to halt Z1. He seems to be still convinced of some religious delusion/doctrine like one who has left a cult.

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