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[Task] Tales From The Tunnels: The Grotian Grapevine
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diszaster
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Asphodel wrote:
I'm starting to be uncomfortable about how much canon we're inventing. It is one thing to take liberties with two or three points of dialect. But to decide that the Proscripts' religion resembles Abrahamic monotheism, or that there was a vast book-burning in the Tunnels, strikes me as uncomfortably likely to conflict with canon the PMs would want to release in the future.

Is this kind of deep roleplaying common in modern ARGs? Is there any precedent or custom that would tell us what is appropriate here? There is little to no reference to it in the resources I've looked at for new ARGers.

I don't want this blog to turn into gamejacking.


I think you're taking this one too seriously. It varies from PM to PM. These PMs happen to have a ... "robust" sense of humor, from what I gather.

See, for examples, their last 2 productions:
Transition Village
Transition Village2

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Asphodel wrote:
I'm starting to be uncomfortable about how much canon we're inventing. It is one thing to take liberties with two or three points of dialect. But to decide that the Proscripts' religion resembles Abrahamic monotheism, or that there was a vast book-burning in the Tunnels, strikes me as uncomfortably likely to conflict with canon the PMs would want to release in the future.

Is this kind of deep roleplaying common in modern ARGs? Is there any precedent or custom that would tell us what is appropriate here? There is little to no reference to it in the resources I've looked at for new ARGers.

I don't want this blog to turn into gamejacking.


As disza said, it varies from PM to PM. Because these guys have done other games in the past, the player base has a good feel for what they expect. Though I didn't play TV I or II, I know that some of the people playing now have, and if they saw a great deviation from the other games, I think we might have gotten a warning about it. Also, I would have expected that we might have gotten a warning IG that we were taking too many liberties, i.e: the Proscript Patriot blog saying something about how the GG was making ridiculous claims with absolutely no background. If we had been given particular examples of how things were set up in this alternate reality, then we would have a better idea on how to base this world. Since we were asked to make those examples, we are, in essence, creating the world for ourselves.

But I think that your concerns are definitely valid. I've wondered the same thing myself a few times, but since we've had no objections from anyone, I figured that we were going in the right direction.
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Tresbien
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Asphodel wrote:
I'm starting to be uncomfortable about how much canon we're inventing. It is one thing to take liberties with two or three points of dialect. But to decide that the Proscripts' religion resembles Abrahamic monotheism, or that there was a vast book-burning in the Tunnels, strikes me as uncomfortably likely to conflict with canon the PMs would want to release in the future.

Is this kind of deep roleplaying common in modern ARGs? Is there any precedent or custom that would tell us what is appropriate here? There is little to no reference to it in the resources I've looked at for new ARGers.

I don't want this blog to turn into gamejacking.


What I see is a permanent underclass of virtual slave labor. Grotians have to wear ID badges at all times and travel between buildings only via the tunnels. Most have poor language skills due to not receiving education. If they aren't educated it speaks volumes about their oppressed condition.

The book burning blog post today was very deliberate. This issue was, in fact, the impetus for the news blog. When I saw that Melissa mentioned Fahrenheit 451 on her Facebook page, I wanted to use that to connect with her and have her see that everything was not "just fine" as she told Rev_G00d, because no one complained. Today, Dusty will show the blog to Melissa, and I hope it will encourage her to make the audio statement we've been asked to get from her.

The post about faith and prayer I wrote on Sunday morning. I was imagining what it would be like to be one of these oppressed people who cannot go to any house of worship they choose. It wasn't meant to imply anything more than one person's belief in a power greater than herself.

Chaotic fiction is chaotic! Sometimes we do invent things the PMs never intended or expected. Someone very wise about ARGs, Steve Peters, said that players can't break a game. I trust that. The PMs can ignore what they don't like or work around it.

http://www.patmo.de/en/2009/01/29/15-questions-to-steve-peters (see question 12, #3)

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 		In addition to what's been said above, also bear in mind that the Blog is in effect propaganda; we are making up sob stories in order to get people on our side. In the same way that Michael Moore never tells the full story because he wants people on his side, the blog is essentially lies and half truths with a political agenda.
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Tresbien
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 		Archie commented on Katie's poem:

Quote:

"An adorable poem indeed. And all of it about me. It should be published in an anthology of great poems in between Shakespeare and Wordsworth."
Laughing

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Tresbien wrote:
Archie commented on Katie's poem:

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"An adorable poem indeed. And all of it about me. It should be published in an anthology of great poems in between Shakespeare and Wordsworth."
Laughing


<3 I think it should, too! <3
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 		Thanks to all who've provided stories thus far. If you have a story to tell about your life as a Grotian or would like an assignment, please let me know or send it to grotiangrapevineSPLATgmail.com.

Coming up we have the story of President Jameson's child with his former Grotian housekeeper, and PinkCloud will be interviewing Archie Rebel tonight.

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 		Interview with LW
We are preparing an interview with LW for the Grotian Grapevine. Anybody interested in taking LW's part and answer some (written) questions? We should do it soon since we haven't heard from LW for a while, and his omnipresence is supposed to intimidate the Proscripts. Twisted Evil
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 		Breaking news of Jameson's Grotian child
I had posted a link to our GG story on Jameson's FB account, and got this e-mail just now:

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Betreff: Fals informashun

"This is President Jamesons assistant. He askd me to tel you that you shuld not post fals informashun on his sight. Thank you very much."


false informashun? hehe
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 		Wonderful support for the GU
The Grotian Grapevine is featuring top news today with a revealing video about the situations of the Grotians, and two testimonials. The famous biographer Melissa Alsford and the beloved actor Archie Rebel speak up on the Grotian situation.

http://www.grotiangrapevine.blogspot.com/

Very Happy
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 		We're always happy to have stories for the blog; please let me know if you have any you want to submit. If you'd like to write and need a suggestion, please let me know here or at grotiangrapevineSPLATgmail.com. Thanks again to all who've participated thus far.

ETA: We will be having reporting/writing opportunities upcoming as the GU fight for equality continues. Please let me know if you're interested in writing up any of those.

So much was accomplished at our last team meeting. Think everyone who had an idea of his own or wanted to take an assignment got one. I'd like to make sure ideas continue to be heard. Would you all like to gather tomorrow to talk about coverage of the escalation of hostilities between the GU and PPP?

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Tresbien wrote:

Would you all like to gather tomorrow to talk about coverage of the escalation of hostilities between the GU and PPP?


yes! #supergreatidea Smile
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 		If you'd like to have a Comm Team chat today, please come to IRC #GU at noon EDT. It'll be shorter than last week as I don't have an assignment list and would like to hear your ideas. Any GUers who'd like to do some writing are welcome to attend.

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ironnikki wrote:
Asphodel wrote:
I'm starting to be uncomfortable about how much canon we're inventing.
(...)
I don't want this blog to turn into gamejacking.


Though I didn't play TV I or II, I know that some of the people playing now have, and if they saw a great deviation from the other games, I think we might have gotten a warning about it. Also, I would have expected that we might have gotten a warning IG that we were taking too many liberties, i.e: the Proscript Patriot blog saying something about how the GG was making ridiculous claims with absolutely no background. (...)

But I think that your concerns are definitely valid. I've wondered the same thing myself a few times, but since we've had no objections from anyone, I figured that we were going in the right direction.


We now have such a counter-claim.

On Facebook, Jezebel Nephthys wrote:
The Grey Guard has good evidence that suggests that Grotian "children" are actually GU agitators that impersonate children. This move is designed specifically to push the sentimental buttons of the public. The GU also solicits actors to play the parts of Grotians in their propaganda, and regularly invent information on The Grotian Grapevine.


Does this imply anything? I seem to remember that Jezebel Nephthys is a player, but I could be wrong about that.
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 		Expect to have some writing opportunities upcoming and would like anyone who wants an assignment to let me know (preference to those who've had the fewest opportunities). Smile

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