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[META/Discussion] What the PMs do wrong
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mamimi
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kadomony wrote:
anybody else been having crazy dreams about this?


That's why I'm reading this now, instead of sleeping. My dreams were nagging me to get up to and read. For all the things the PM has done wrong, he has me INTERESTED. Embarassed

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Obfuscatus
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kadomony wrote:
anybody else been having crazy dreams about this?


Lol not yet but now that you said it I am sure I will

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 		Nah... I dream about Russian feminist zealots trying to kill me all the time...

And "Russian Feminist Zealots from Brooklyn" would be a great name for a band! Laughing
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Nighthawk wrote:
Nah... I dream about Russian feminist zealots trying to kill me all the time...

And "Russian Feminist Zealots from Brooklyn" would be a great name for a band! Laughing


It would be if it wasn't already my band's name

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 		And now we're in a waiting game...

I admit I've kind of felt that a lot of this was being made up as we went along. I think the whole thing in Chile was done solely because of the massive Chilean following that sprang up from nowhere. And now I think we're waiting for them to figure out what to do next.

What I don't think the PM realizes is that, even though he has a considerable amount of followers, those followers have a very short attention span. A full day of nothing and have his audience isn't going to care anymore.

It's already apparent in Facebook; a lot of people seem to believe that the game is over because the Junsui "lost".
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 		I agree with what you said, Nighthawk. Then, add the fact that there's a better communication system with MoT than with JJ from PM.

Now JJ seems to be completely beheaded.

On the other side, I think there are some clues left to clear up: some people tend to focus on numbers, coordenates and calibers, but I think there's something left that has already been exposed.

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 		 Hey Flor!
Nighthawk wrote:
And now we're in a waiting game...

I admit I've kind of felt that a lot of this was being made up as we went along. I think the whole thing in Chile was done solely because of the massive Chilean following that sprang up from nowhere. And now I think we're waiting for them to figure out what to do next.

What I don't think the PM realizes is that, even though he has a considerable amount of followers, those followers have a very short attention span. A full day of nothing and have his audience isn't going to care anymore.

It's already apparent in Facebook; a lot of people seem to believe that the game is over because the Junsui "lost".


Hey David. Hey little buddy.

How many days until Rachel's Walk is out? Many of us over at /b/ can't wait.

Gee, you must have lots of time, the amount of postings you make about this game you dislike so much. And it's sure good you know everything about how to make a good ARG so that you can give us all lessons from time to time.

Ever heard of taking a day off though? I mean you work so hard pointing out the shortcomings of everything on the planet it must really tire you out...

Maybe when you have rested a little bit you'll realize you don't have a clue what you're talking about and have no idea where any of this is going and that you should STFU.

Oh and by the way, we know it was your lame ass who leaked the info from the second Santiago drop to both sides for no good reason. Nice one there, hero!

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Nighthawk wrote:
What I don't think the PM realizes is that, even though he has a considerable amount of followers, those followers have a very short attention span. A full day of nothing and have his audience isn't going to care anymore. .


Or he does realizes this and the result will be a lot less spam Very Happy

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Oh and by the way, we know it was your lame ass who leaked the info from the second Santiago drop to both sides for no good reason. Nice one there, hero!


Uh... Had I actually done that, would we have gotten the result we did?
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 		Re: Hey Flor!
InternetHateMachine wrote:

Many of us over at /b/ can't wait.

go fap to your loli solofag, you do not speak for anon, and /b/ doesn't care...

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mamimi
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crises wrote:
Then, add the fact that there's a better communication system with MoT than with JJ from PM.


Now might be a good time to speak up in agreement, something that's been bugging me a bit for quite a while. There's a lot of talk about "lemmings" and such on the Junsui side, and I agree about that to an extent, but it is very true that the way the Junsui communicate with their "team" is much, much different than the MoT side. The Jusui are much more public, VOCAL (IN CAPS), and more vague in their demands (at least until the MoT side figures things out and they just repeat the results, even then they just go "the drop is here! Kbye. *spew more maternal-this, save Little Bird-that*" and don't quite tell anyone what they want done with it most times). Even in private communication, the Junsui aren't very specific in their goals, or what they want from their followers.

MoT is very personal with their communications, selecting, it seems, a small number of trusted people to communicate with directly, and giving what nearly amounts to explicit orders what to do, even if it's "get that information NOW", more intelligently, and less chicken-with-its-head-cut-off than the Junsui.

As they say, you get more flies with honey than with vinegar. I'm not sure what you get more of with vinegar (do lemmings like vinegar? Laughing ), but the Junsui, being so loud and public on facebook has got them. And, in my experience, the more people you get together, the more... people of lesser quality you get together. These are the vocal WUT'S GOIN' ON? masses you see on the Junsui facebook, but I'm not sure it represents the true population of Junsui followers. I think progress on the Junsui side is very much hindered by the quality of leadership of the Junsui. As I said, I'm not sure if this is by design, or by the nature of the characters involved (women incarcerated in facilities such as they are would very likely lack social and leadership skills as they seem to), or if it's a flaw in the "game", but I think it explains a lot as to the type of people they seem to be attracting, and the lack of any real progress in puzzle solving or getting anything done on their side. And saying so, if the PM has always intended the Junsui to "lose" this game, I'd consider it a bit of a flaw that he's making that a bit too easy for them.

That, and the fact that if the Junsui followers have a message board like this to discuss everything together, I haven't seen it. (I wonder if the Jusui followers were as vocal here as the MoT followers and maybe had a few threads of their own, despite the board's supposed neutrality, if they'd be as welcomed, or if they'd just be shunned as "lemmings" despite their intentions, or intelligence and puzzle-solving abilities).

My two cents on thing. Smile

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 		oh this is most definitely the PM's way of showing a comparison of "power in numbers" vs "power in organization"

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mamimi wrote:
the Junsui aren't very specific in their goals


that's what makes JJ soo hard to trust... u're damm right with this. And that is the proof there is stupid ppl in this world... have u seen the tons of "HAIL JUNSUI" messages?... JJ doesnt even have a "message for the world"... their beliefs wont save any life (like "religion" does)... they just want vengance (maybe this game is part of the sequeel of V of Vendetta Laughing )... and ppl just blindly fallow their orders xD... WHY!? xD!!!!!!

mamimi wrote:
the more people you get together, the more... people of lesser quality you get together


it's sad, but u're rite... luckily they usually end being on JJ side.

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mamimi wrote:
the more people you get together, the more... people of lesser quality you get together



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sergio37
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 		i think that until now the junsui never needs a inteligence.
why?
because us. until now they just need come here or begn acepted on man of taste to read our intel.
so when they need think and begin organized by themselves they just cannot do it.

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