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[ PUZZLE ] "False Cage" [SOLVED]
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Ad_Arcana_Tutanda
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 		[ PUZZLE ] "False Cage" [SOLVED]
Investigating the false cage leak from the Junsui page
And this is where we start.

Lay down what we know here.

PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:18 pm
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 		Just opened the song in notepad and guess what there is:

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ID3 ECOM  engiTunPGAP 0 TEN  iTunes 8.2.1 COM h engiTunNORM 0000000D 0000000E 0000003E 0000003C 00005BC8 00012570 00000799 000007AC 00000D80 00000D80 COM ‚ engiTunSMPB 00000000 00000210 00000930 0000000000725F40 00000000 00392340 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 TT2  Fuente De La Conocimientos TP1 John Cage TRK  6/21 TYE  1905


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balt wrote:
Just opened song in notepad and guess what there is:

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ID3 ECOM  engiTunPGAP 0 TEN  iTunes 8.2.1 COM h engiTunNORM 0000000D 0000000E 0000003E 0000003C 00005BC8 00012570 00000799 000007AC 00000D80 00000D80 COM ‚ engiTunSMPB 00000000 00000210 00000930 0000000000725F40 00000000 00392340 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 TT2  Fuente De La Conocimientos TP1 John Cage TRK  6/21 TYE  1905

That's just an ID3 tag, typical of most songs.

The hex-looking stuff doesn't appear to be a comment, so it's probably just part of the tag.

The song sounds deceptively minimal, like something someone did on a Yamaha keyboard. I haven't listened to a lot of John Cage, and I know he's prone to doing weird stuff, but this seems like a stretch.

On another note, the sample rate is 48.000 Khz. This isn't too weird, but considering that CD quality is around 44 Khz, it means that it was either transcoded (which would be really stupid), or it is an original recording. Either way, it's an anomaly worth mentioning.

EDIT: Also, "de la concimientos" makes no sense in Spanish. At least, it's no Spanish that I've ever heard.

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 		We are probably headed in the right direction...

Remember, this is what was said earlier:

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This is the latest and greatest from our friend Mr. Dubrovin.


Re: Men of Taste

This is indeed very useful. You have definitely proved your abilities with regards to cataloging. Now what about analysis?

It seems many people are focusing on algorithmic analysis. What if its something more analog—something akin to Schumann's messages in his music to Clara?

There are already code breakers at Alfa-Tsentr checking via latest high bit encryption. I just cannot escape the suspicion that we're missing something more obvious.

Regards,
A.Dubrovin


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 		What we know:
The mp3 tags:
Track number: 6/21 = June 21st = Junko/Gwaschemasch'e's birthday/Summer Solstice
Year: 1905 = Date of the picture of Gwaschemasch'e at Mnajdra
http://www.flickr.com/photos/junkojunsui/3824632612/

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 		Interesting, when I open the Cage song in PSPad it opens a garbled text doc with the ID3 data, but when I open the other ones it goes straight to the hex as normal

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 		We should try translating the hex into ASCII or Unicode or something. I guess it's worth a shot.

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 		The ID3 says that the track number is 6/21 and the year says 1905. This fits with the time period that I have seen in my other research (see trailhead) but I am unable to find anything important on this particular date.

Jean-Paul Sartre but that doesn't seem related Rolling Eyes

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 		I'm going to make a really slowed-down version to help with analyzing the tones, and I'm going to try to preserve the pitch. If it works okay, I'll post it.

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 		workin on the cypher, guys. stay tuned Very Happy

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Obfuscatus wrote:
The ID3 says that the track number is 6/21 and the year says 1905. This fits with the time period that I have seen in my other research (see trailhead) but I am unable to find anything important on this particular date.

Jean-Paul Sartre but that doesn't seem related Rolling Eyes


I love Sartre, Nausea is amazing if you can get through it.

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 		Audacity doesn't want to cooperate. I'm working on the tones. I think I got some of the higher-pitched ones, but it's hard to tell.

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 		If you change the file extension to RTF and open it as unicode it opens as about 600 pages of chinese or japanese characters. Thoughts?

EDIT: never mind that works with anything. These files do have a huge amount of seemingly erroneous characters in them though compares to a normal mp3

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 		That's interesting, guys. It seems like all of the songs from fake google do have strange comments in them.

http://174.133.240.117/ms/music/thenews.mp3
Deltron 3030 - The News
Quote:
0000012D 00000122 00000675 000005D4 00004E52 00004E52 00004A06 000045F0 00004E52 00004E52


http://174.133.240.117/ms/music/FuenteDeLaConocimientos.mp3
John Cage - Fuente De La Conocimientos
Quote:
0; 0000000D 0000000E 0000003E 0000003C 00005BC8 00012570 00000799 000007AC 00000D80 00000D80; 00000000 00000210 00000930 0000000000725F40 00000000 00392340 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000


http://174.133.240.117/ms/music/Una.mp3
Murcof - Una
Quote:
0000035E 00000108 00006AC1 00002F77 0004A978 00056D14 000096F2 0000E646 0004173E 0004173E; 00000000 00000210 000007B0 0000000001153440 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000; 11+579199D5E3B5370FF3C0A7F1BA813858+4153202


http://174.133.240.117/ms/music/anending.mp3
Brian Eno - An Ending
Quote:
00000259 000001B8 00001C8A 00001A6C 00037843 0003579C 000055F7 00004A32 000380F0 000385BC; F00E1310+270381+16+150+14479+24351+49900+67832+86979+118019+134591+140812+163677+178282+194173+205402+225497+245026+255756; 13


http://174.133.240.117/ms/music/Aguirre1.mp3
Popol Vuh - Aguire 1
Quote:
00000301 0000036B 00000CDE 00000C83 0001FAE9 000418DF 00004EB9 000053E8 00037B7E 000418C8


http://174.133.240.117/ms/music/Imnotdone.mp3
Fever Ray - I'm Not Done
Quote:
0000097A 00000000 00003058 00000000 0002E647 00000000 00007015 00000000 0002E630 00000000


http://174.133.240.117/ms/music/Corsair.mp3
BoC - Corsair
Quote:
23+E250754DC17FE498A1CC9CA31B41E6A9+1807128; 00000177 000001F0 0000045F 00000598 0001D505 0000EA8E 00003B10 00003A12 000186CE 0000EA8E


http://174.133.240.117/ms/music/PearyLand.mp3
Nathan Fake - I Peary Land
Quote:
00000681 00000604 00001680 0000113E 00041A1F 00039BF5 000064EA 00006084 0003C5F4 00032BF9


http://174.133.240.117/ms/music/albertobalsalm.mp3
Aphex Twin - Alberto Balsalm
Quote:
12+4299782E7F79A52206633A0A02E497BB+147623; 00000164 000002A9 00000E30 00002A67 00009C85 0002983E 00007CAF 00007F93 00029810 00029810


http://174.133.240.117/ms/music/EverythingBalloon.mp3
BoC - Everything You do Is A Balloon
Quote:
0000042A 00000338 0000278F 0000208D 0003A997 0003A997 00008000 00007E0A 0003F7E5 00050910


http://174.133.240.117/ms/music/takemeunderskin.mp3
Trentemoller - Take Me Under Your Skin
Quote:
00000376 000002AB 000015E1 00000D66 0002230E 00055747 00008000 00008000 00053020 00053020


http://174.133.240.117/ms/music/skywaspink.mp3
Nathan Fake - The Sky Was Pink (F+L Remix)
Quote:
000003F4 0000059D 000017D7 0000210D 0001A15B 0001A15B 00007CD9 00008000 0002B1CE 0002B1CE


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Soulmech wrote:
That's just an ID3 tag, typical of most songs.

Oops, didn't saw your post before posting. Forget about my previous post.

Let's all focus on John Cage - Fuente De La Conocimientos, that's the right direction.

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