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cma3
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Yuri Tretiak wrote
at 10:25pm
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Alexander Dubrovin was responsible for dissemination of known terrorist propaganda on more than this occasion. My disclosure of other such events is impossibility presently because security concerns. But there is clear pattern demonstrating his aiding of their cause. His own fellow executives at Men of Taste have admit as much.

Regarding these "ciphers" of terrorists, does your group have a catalog of all such known occurrences? If so, possibly relationships might be established regarding their usage. We do not have many instances recorded within own investigation. But recent investigation into terrorist activity in western Chinese is revealing one composite of symbols left behind during attack on CCTV facility.




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A totally WTF!

can anybody Check on secondlife some place called, SODA HALL?!

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Hey Astrotrain, I logged onto SL and couldn't find any place called Soda Hall.



ALSO, not sure if this is useful, but if you plot the solar terminal from the coordinate puzzle on google earth, and plot the solar terminal of the vernal equinox (march 20, 2009 at 12:44 UTC), they intersect almost exactly at one of the coordinates from the coordinate puzzle. Upon closer examination, it looks like it's a very small collection of huts or small buildings in a very remote area of Tibet.

Check out: 28°55'55.83"N 91° 4'5.72"E

Location relevant? Probably not, but interesting at least.

edit: this is Western China?

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Chinese translates to 'he xie she hui' or harmonious society, a term used by the Chinese government in 2004. Now also blocked by the China firewall (a term that sends up a red flag).
cma3 wrote:
Yuri Tretiak wrote
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Alexander Dubrovin was responsible for dissemination of known terrorist propaganda on more than this occasion. My disclosure of other such events is impossibility presently because security concerns. But there is clear pattern demonstrating his aiding of their cause. His own fellow executives at Men of Taste have admit as much.

Regarding these "ciphers" of terrorists, does your group have a catalog of all such known occurrences? If so, possibly relationships might be established regarding their usage. We do not have many instances recorded within own investigation. But recent investigation into terrorist activity in western Chinese is revealing one composite of symbols left behind during attack on CCTV facility.



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Astrotrain wrote:
A totally WTF!

can anybody Check on secondlife some place called, SODA HALL?!


That's UC Berkeley.

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Yuri speaks

Ok, Yuri posted this about an hour ago:

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Yuri Tretiak ha escrito
A las 15:24
It definitely the symbols.

This is very urgent that we decipher their meanings. Each appears to have a name and LOCATION correlation?

I cannot stress the importance of making this intercept!


I've been reviewing ALL of Junsui's post, and rewatched the videos, looking for clues. All i can think of is that maybe there is a correlation. Gwaschemasch'e is the origin I believe. On her video, it talks about Guido Von List, a pagan who used the runes. http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runas_armanen Here are the way runes are read, maybe we can pull out a password using them? Thats the best i could come with. Please help!

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I'm doing an extense research of symbology, but couldn't get a clear match with our symbols. This are some i've been looking at:

Pagan symbols:
http://www.goldentreewands.com/symbolmagic.htm

Pluto maybe?

17th century acheme: No match so far
http://www.alchemywebsite.com/val_symb.html

Scheele alchemy: Some seem close
http://www.alchemywebsite.com/scheele_.html

Dalton's system. More Technical, but the circle-system could give us a clue
http://www.alchemywebsite.com/dalton_s.html

Some assorted symbols. Couldn't find a complete match with ours:
http://www.alchemywebsite.com/alchemical_symbols00.html

No matches so far. All this futile research leads me to think this could be an invented symbology, maybe something we can already decipher with our previous intel. Or maybe it's not a message, but an "idea" what we must get from the symbols.

EDIT: I've been thinking, Yuri is pretty sure this symbols mean locations. There are 5 we can see perfectly, 2 more a bit moved. Junko says the one in the front-down face is the symbol of Solstice (watch her facebook). If they are locations, how could one be the solstice? Maybe here is were the coordinates puzzle fits. How many different coordinates do we have?

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Aleksandr Dolgonosov September 12 at 4:21am
Hello Mr. Tretiak,

I am part of the Unfiction team, and thus far have not contacted you directly. I have some new findings that I thought appropriate to share with you, in order to properly ascertain their relevance to the investigation at hand.

The Junsui have been speaking of "Antipodal Mediators" in their recent posts, which I have taken to mean circumferential arcs around the globe. Given the Junsui's religious preoccupation with the solstices and equinoxes (e.g. the Mnajdra temple, constant references to Spring imagery, etc), and given the fact that the coordinates from the THENFRIEND video align on the solar terminal for the Winter Solstice, I began investigating the solstice and equinox solar terminals as "antipodal mediators". This is what I have discovered:

http://img132.imageshack.us/i/solarterminals.png/

If we draw an arc through the coordinates from the THENFRIEND video (along the winter solstice solar terminal), and also the arc of the solar terminal on the vernal equinox, they intersect almost exactly at one of the coordinates from the THENFRIEND video. I was wondering if this could suggest this location has special significance.

http://img411.imageshack.us/i/sitei.png/

Upon closer inspection, there is a small compound located approximately 300 meters away from the original coordinate. Could this be a site of terrorist activity? It fits the bill for Western China (this site specifically is located in a remote area of Tibet).

I would very much like to hear your thoughts on the matter, specifically whether or not you believe it is relevant to the investigation at hand and should be further pursued.

Best,
Alek

Aleksandr Dolgonosov September 12 at 4:23am
Forgive me, I forgot to mention, the specific location of this site is 28°55'55.83"N 91° 4'5.72"E

Best,
Alek

Yuri Tretiak September 12 at 11:45am Report
Very good to speak with you Alek!

The thoroughness of your information is a refreshing change. I congratulate you for the depth of your team's investigation...

There is definitely correspondences between locations. I am not free to disclose exact nature for reasons of operational security of Alfa-Tsentr. But I agree solar cycles are definitely a significance for terrorists. There is also at one sight at least strong presence of auroral kilometric radiation. The western China location I am personally familiar with in Tibet. Although there has been some activities by terrorists associated with Lhasa, the recent incidents have to do with Urumqi, Xinjiang region.

Within last 24 hours our own signal intelligence has started to focus on symbolic meanings of the pictographs used by terrorists to understand what messages they may encode. Of particular interest is possible correspondence between symbols and locations you have detailed. Understanding this might lead to ability to intercept their espionage activities.

Regards,
YT


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Mr. Dubrovin was in Tibet when he had that accident where he broke his wrist and a couple ribs, remember?

31AUG09-

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Yesterday evening an incident involving a mechanical error during our Kasatka's takeoff at Gongkar forced a delay in my schedule. Considering the quality of aviation investigations here, there will probably never be a way of knowing for sure... but there's a very good chance the accident was due to an act of sabotage. Amazingly everybody escaped with only one serious injury to a pilot. I myself am receiving medical treatment for fractures I received to my wrist and ribs. Unfortunately my computer was destroyed after the aircraft caught fire and so there will be a slight delay in regaining communication access with my colleagues at Alfa-Tsentr.


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Here's the wikipedia entry for the auroral kilometric radiation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auroral_kilometric_radiation

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Yuri: There is also at one sight at least strong presence of auroral kilometric radiation. The western China location I am personally familiar with in Tibet. Although there has been some activities by terrorists associated with Lhasa, the recent incidents have to do with Urumqi, Xinjiang region.


edit: just a random thought, but maybe Yuri is hinting at the Norway coordinate by mentioning auroral kilometric radiation. AKR is associated with aurora borealis (northern lights), and I think the Norway location is the only one close enough to a magnetic pole to be affected by aurora borealis.

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someone remeber our friend Basilius Valentinus and his work on runes and his picture with the 3th key on description?

Matbe a clue to decode runes checking

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basil_Valentine

There is the triangle:
http://www.cs.utk.edu/~mclennan/BA/PT/valentine7.gif

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Just for all to know, whe have a new "friend" from alfa tsentr. Sgt Chekunov:

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Vadim Chekunov ha escrito
A las 1:16
Reporting.

Mladshiy Serzhant Vadim Chekunov
3rd Signal Intel: Nagurskoye station


So I understand his an inteligence specialist, so i asked him for cooperation with this one. Hope he is a bit "merrier" than yuri Razz

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I've been thinking, we already knew the symbol on the upper-left of this dice-like shape. If i'm not wrong, it symbolized the lock and key, when the steg data. Did we get any coordinates then? Otherwise, this simbol could refer to any of the locations in these pictures: The turkish palace or the ritual place. The rest of the symbols still beat my mind. I'm reviewing all the intel we have so far, but to no avail.

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So symbols and locations... lets take Yuri's advice and catalogue what we have so far.

Locations

1. Kjerringøy, Norway
KPГ (KRG) +67.57 +14.68
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kjerringoy

2. Mt. Kovinsky, Russia
KOC (KOS) +59.51 +59.06
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/russia/kosvinsky.htm
Underground Russian nuclear command post and bunker.

3. Lake Yamdrok, Tibet (China)
ЯMД (YaMD) +28.93 +91.07
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamdrok_Lake
Lake in Tibet, sacred to the local Tibetans.

"As one of the three holy lakes, the Yamdrok Yumtso Lake is said to be the female Guardian of Buddhism in Tibet. People here believe that it will bless and protect them. Every year, many devotional followers in Tibet or from other places would come here for pilgrimage. Some of them start on foot and give one prostration every three steps even from hundreds of kilometers away. All of these visitors bring much mystery and dignity to the charming holy Yamdrok Yumtso Lake."

- The Vernal (Spring) Equinox solar terminal also intersects the Winter Solstice solar terminal at approximately this point.

- Alexander Dubrovin may have been injured here.
- This is near Lhasa, which has been mentioned by Yuri.
- Yuri claims to know of this location, but cannot disclose more information due to "Alfa-Tsentr operational security"

4. Rothsay, Australia
POT (ROT) -29.21 +117.63
http://www.about-australia.com/travel-guides/western-australia/australias-golden-outback/attractions/historic-site/rothsay-ghost-town/
An old mine with accompanying Ghost Town in Western Australia.


The above 4 locations are from the THENFRIEND video and form the arc that maps onto the Winter Solstice solar terminal (but not at the exact time of the winter solstice... just on the date... it's off from the actual solstice by a couple hours... perhaps its suggesting a different year than 2009?

5. Mt. Yamantaw
ЯMT (YMT) +54.26 +58.10 (from fake google intro to cam room)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Yamantaw
Another underground Russian nuclear facility.

6. Ürümqi, Xinjiang Region, China
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ürümqi
Site of recent terrorist activity, according to Yuri. Seems important to the puzzle at hand based on Yuri's guidance.

Symbols
Yuri said to look for connections between symbols and locations.


Used in conjunction with many Mnajdra related Junsui postings. Obviously, it also resembles the layout of the temple. This could be the symbol for "Mnajdra".


Used several places, most notably in the intro video to the Rhea's room feed, right next to the coordinates for Mt. Yamantaw. This could be the symbol for Mt. Yamantaw.


Released by Yuri, told to make a "catalog" of symbols on the die (which looks like a d20), in order to establish relationships (to places?) regarding their usage.

redct: "Chinese translates to 'he xie she hui' or harmonious society, a term used by the Chinese government in 2004. Now also blocked by the China firewall (a term that sends up a red flag). "

Other symbols: possibly related to the other locations in the coordinate puzzle?

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