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The World Ends With You
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Well so far, J hasn't made a new tweet about the new totheark video.

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noelle
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So... was J Alex's main camera man?

He mentioned.. helping him scout the areas for filming in the movie...

So part of me wanted to say J was "The Operator" because he's operating the camera for Alex, but I think that's not it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operator

Throwing it out there for possible speculation on the meaning..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operator_%28disambiguation%29

All boils down to 1 thing.. a means of a function.. coordinator or some sort.

whoever theark is... I think J has meaning to them as some sort of deliverance perhaps?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:16 am
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GrimBloodyFable
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Quote:
very unnerved by totheark's response: http://bit.ly/lr9Sh
about 5 hours ago from web


Nobody mentioned this tweet, so here it is.

EDIT: I believe that totheark isn't J, Alex or Slenderman, but some kind of third party who was close to the production. My only evidence for this claim, however, is the fact that J was being filmed walking to his car, Alex was location scouting and Slenderman wouldn't use a camera.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:47 am
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morscata12
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RatHeOreTop is an anagram of theoperator, and the rearrangement may give us a numerical clue. I thought it would be a clue about the order of entries 1-11, but it doesn't make too much sense:
Code:
t=1,9    h=2    e=3,6    o=4,A(10)    p=5    r=7,B(11)    a=8

r a t   h e   o r e   t o p
7 8 1   2 3   4 7 3   1 4 5
B   9     6   A B 6   9 A 


PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:43 pm
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morscata12
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This is definitely a followup to Entry 13, and is totheark's most direct followup to an Entry so far. Entry 12's response was fairly direct, but was not completely related.

"Exit" is the opposite of "Entry", so it may be totheark's idea of a joke - or his/her way of pointing out that their information is the opposite of J's. Also, it acts as the footage after J's exit from Entry 13.

"remember me" could be a question or a demand. There are a few possible audiences: Alex, J, or the outside world:
- If this is directed toward Alex, then totheark assumes Alex is following the release of the Marble Hornets entries (which is highly unlikely).
- If this is directed toward J, then J might "remember" who totheark was during the events of Marble Hornets (fairly likely), or totheark is trying to scare J (it's working).
- If this is directed toward the outside world, it may be an attempt to scare, or an attempt at a memorial for totheark (if he/she was killed by SM/Alex).

"Operator" has been present in three of the five totheark responses, but was also the subject of a few of Alex's drawings. I want to believe that "the operator" means "the camera operator", but then Alex wouldn't have bothered drawing the name and associating it to SM. "The operator" isn't Alex, J, or the Slender Man - so they would have to be one of the MH crew. Some of the cast/crew of MH is familiar with SM - they saw him in Entry 12, so maybe they were in on the SM occult.

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Maybe totheark is another SM watcher much like Alex. With J been posting his videos, totheark decided to respond with what he has, just not any videoes of SM... yet...

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morscata12 wrote:
This is definitely a followup to Entry 13, and is totheark's most direct followup to an Entry so far. Entry 12's response was fairly direct, but was not completely related.

"Exit" is the opposite of "Entry", so it may be totheark's idea of a joke - or his/her way of pointing out that their information is the opposite of J's. Also, it acts as the footage after J's exit from Entry 13.

"remember me" could be a question or a demand. There are a few possible audiences: Alex, J, or the outside world:
- If this is directed toward Alex, then totheark assumes Alex is following the release of the Marble Hornets entries (which is highly unlikely).
- If this is directed toward J, then J might "remember" who totheark was during the events of Marble Hornets (fairly likely), or totheark is trying to scare J (it's working).
- If this is directed toward the outside world, it may be an attempt to scare, or an attempt at a memorial for totheark (if he/she was killed by SM/Alex).

"Operator" has been present in three of the five totheark responses, but was also the subject of a few of Alex's drawings. I want to believe that "the operator" means "the camera operator", but then Alex wouldn't have bothered drawing the name and associating it to SM. "The operator" isn't Alex, J, or the Slender Man - so they would have to be one of the MH crew. Some of the cast/crew of MH is familiar with SM - they saw him in Entry 12, so maybe they were in on the SM occult.


Okay maybe "The Operator" was the person filming J from that vantage point.. Perhaps they are the person who is causing this to happen?

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chaos
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if ye ask me this kinda looks more like the operator is alex...

either way, though i still think y'all looking into the whole operator thing way more than it warrants so far..

all it is to me so far is an arc word Razz

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I decided to join because this seems interesting. Also because I found something probably means nothing but just putting it out here

I ran the term Rat He Ore Top a couple of times through Babel Fish I found normal words on some languages and I decided to split them up and here is what I got.

advice I have hours signal, this is a mix between German, Spanish, French and Italian and it sounds as cryptic as anything else here

PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:20 pm
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I'm having trouble buying the "totheark was another MH crewmember" theory. For one, it makes a lot more sense for it to be Alex, because he has been out of contact for three years, had his mind toyed with by Mr. Thin (which would lead to the obscure, indirect messages he sent us through the totheark videos), and the timing of his arrival. I have yet to see a reason for one of the crewmembers to require such obfuscated messages (hiding LISTEN in a poem? Using boxes to say LOOK CLOSELY?) as opposed to just saying what they wanted outright so that they could be sure that people would understand. It's not like the Slender Man is browsing the internet and is in danger of reading the messages sent by totheark.

Furthermore, we have reasons for Alex to do the same things as totheark, yet we don't have a good reason for a crewmember to have done the same.
~ Alex is all screwed up in the head, so he's naturally paranoid and probably can't think coherently. Plus he has a direct connection to the Entries. None off this is true for the other cast/crew members of Marble Hornets.
~ Alex has a very good reason to have filmed J when J went back to the car--he wanted to see if Mr. Thin would show up and mess with his friend. In support of Alex being behind the camera in Exit, Entry 13 has been clipped as if a part of it was taken out.
~ Speaking of taking stuff out, since we know that some of the totheark videos contain the audio which was removed from the Entries, I have yet to see a reason or even a method by which a crew member might have taken the audio out of these videos and otherwise altered them. On the other hand, Alex almost certainly did so in his paranoia, especially when he decided to hand them over to J (he probably decided to hand them over, then went through and edited all the terrifying parts out so that J wouldn't be scarred as he was, which would include the audio and some of the other creepy stuff--such as what happens at the end of Entry 12, which was recorded over, and the audio from the Slender Man nights, and the part where he watched J which would make him look like a creeper, spying on his friend the way he was.)
~ I doubt someone who was recruited by Alex for his student film would have cared enough about the film to realize when clips of raw footage were going online, especially if it was as shitty as J makes it out to be. Alex, however, is intimately tied to the project.
~ It could be that I'm wrong, but I highly doubt it, because to be honest most of the "it's another member of the Marble Hornets crew" speculation is based upon assumptions, not observations.

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itmustbedone wrote:
hm. obviously this takes place during entry 13.


Well, that's... certainly interesting. I'm surprised this was overlooked.

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MerryMarmalade wrote:
itmustbedone wrote:
hm. obviously this takes place during entry 13.


Well, that's... certainly interesting. I'm surprised this was overlooked.


I think he is focusing more on us clicking the link to the very strange Twitter that he linked to than adding any information to the discussion.

-edit-

Which also happens to be following the MH Twitter account...

I kinda hope this is part of MH and not something from Namoslig.

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The World Ends With You
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I don't see how Alex could have filmed J going to the car, then ran to where he was originally and not been out of breath. I know if I ran that fast, no matter the distance, I'd be winded.

And going by Entry 12, Alex wasn't the only one to see Slender Man. It doesn't mean to say that the actors or film crew weren't plagued by Slender Man either. It's just that Alex's torment was documented.


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~ Alex has a very good reason to have filmed J when J went back to the car--he wanted to see if Mr. Thin would show up and mess with his friend. In support of Alex being behind the camera in Exit, Entry 13 has been clipped as if a part of it was taken out.


That's a major assumption right there. You have no idea what was going through Alex's mind at the time of Entry 13. Also, a cut in the video doesn't prove anything.

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~ Speaking of taking stuff out, since we know that some of the totheark videos contain the audio which was removed from the Entries, I have yet to see a reason or even a method by which a crew member might have taken the audio out of these videos and otherwise altered them. On the other hand, Alex almost certainly did so in his paranoia, especially when he decided to hand them over to J (he probably decided to hand them over, then went through and edited all the terrifying parts out so that J wouldn't be scarred as he was, which would include the audio and some of the other creepy stuff--such as what happens at the end of Entry 12, which was recorded over, and the audio from the Slender Man nights, and the part where he watched J which would make him look like a creeper, spying on his friend the way he was.)


Some more assumptions. Remember, during the Marble Hornets actual movie filming, Alex wasn't always the one behind the camera. Whose to say some of the other crew members didn't get a hold of the audio or video for some reason or another?

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~ I doubt someone who was recruited by Alex for his student film would have cared enough about the film to realize when clips of raw footage were going online, especially if it was as shitty as J makes it out to be. Alex, however, is intimately tied to the project.


Another assumption. You can't speak for Alex and you can't speak for the actors/crew members. We honestly have no idea of what actually went down during all of this.

I'm not saying that it couldn't have been Alex, but we can't rule out the actors/crew members or someone new entirely. From where we are right now, there's really no way to tell who totheark really is. We just need to keep waiting for J and totheark to make more videos.

One thing is positive, at least we know that totheark is directly connected to Marble Hornets somehow.

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If "Rat He Or Top" was an anagram, could "totheark" be as well?

Off the top of my head I can make out the word take, but the remaining letters form nothing but nonsense, unless it's an anagram in a different language.

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The only anagram I could honestly get out of "totheark" is "Ok Threat."

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