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birdmadgirl123
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Jandek's ultimate mission could be to test the mortal limits of patience, tolerance, and understanding. Perhaps he's the Messiah, dispatched to Earth as an Outsider Musician, giving the human race one last chance to accept the unacceptable, to embrace that which is infinitely difficult to embrace.

If so, by failing to fully grasp his aesthetic, I have forsaken salvation. And come Armageddon, while Jandek ascends with his disciples to a place where harps strum gently all day, I will descend to a region where mighty loudspeakers pipe in nothing but Jandek records for eternity.


Appropriate for his role in TLS!
http://www.wfmu.org/LCD/22/jandek.html

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 		On the counter
By your keys
Was a book of numbers
And your remedies
One of these
Surely will screen out the sorrow
But where are you tomorrow?

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SteganosaurusRex
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 		People should not stalk their ex-es. So, any theories about why one of our outlines does not have stars but does have "hex coordinates"?

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birdmadgirl123
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People should not stalk their ex-es.


Indeed they should not.

Um, what are you talking about?

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SteganosaurusRex
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 		The Steely Dan lyrics above. Guy is kinda looking at his ex's stuff in her house. Phone numbers, her drugs. But he is in her house. It is creepy.

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SteganosaurusRex
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The long lasted years

Spitting out the days

Dropping anywhere to sleep

Wild fruit and fish

Dreaming with wits about

Not seeing any path

It could've been ne'er (air?) walked on

There was no way to know


From Silent Wander by Jandek.

All lyrics available. http://mylist.net/archives/jandek/2009-June/005371.html

He has lots of albums, well over 50 but the numbering system is odd. Starts with 0739. But he has been recording since the 80's so this may just be about quoting him and not some direct connection to this. Definitely figures into the Last Statue mythos, though.

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SteganosaurusRex
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8. Black Cow
On the counter by your keys
Was a book of numbers and your remedies
One of these
Surely will screen out the sorrow
But where are you tomorrow?
By the time of 1977's Aja Steely Dan had moved past intimate tales of pornographers, and were painting expansive, irony-laced portraits of drunks and losers, like the unnamed narrator of "Black Cow," who in the opening verses contemplates raiding his estranged lover's drug stash, or calling her friends to find a date, but decides against it, realizing that though "one of these" may "screen out the sorrow," she'll still be gone tomorrow. Simple enough—but then you wonder, what's he doing in her house?


Fun article:

http://www.stylusmagazine.com/articles/staff_top_10/top-ten-obscure-steely-dan-lyrics.htm

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GreatieMarten
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 		I hope the writers have the Whizzer do some cool things in the next chapter. That would be solid.

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GreatieMarten
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 		Is this the arg for Inherent Vice?

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birdmadgirl123
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 		From Kid Kenoma's blog:
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Lull, who apparently had clandestine copies of the books of
the Diamond & Pearl, seems to have extracted from these works,
his color-coded system of decans: "the dye behind the wheel"
as Lull would note.


Kid Charlemagne by Steely Dan:
Quote:
While the music played you worked by candlelight
Those San Francisco nights
You were the best in town
Just by chance you crossed the diamond with the pearl
You turned it on the world
That's when you turned the world around


and just 'cause I can't resist, the Artist formerly known as Prince:

Quote:
That will be the time
That everything will shine
So bright it makes u colorblind

If I gave u diamonds and pearls
Would u be a happy boy or a girl
If I could I would give u the world
All I can do is just offer u my love


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birdmadgirl123
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 		From Kid Kenoma's blog
Wit of the Spiral Staircase
http://kidkenoma.wordpress.com/2009/09/23/wit-of-the-spiral-staircase/

From Wit of the Staircase, June 25, 2007
"A Staircasean Mystery"
http://theresalduncan.typepad.com/witostaircase/2007/06/a-staircasean-m.html

The Family, Ed Sanders, p.45
http://books.google.com/books?id=20n2VPmoiQoC&printsec=frontcover&dq=ed+sanders#v=onepage&q=&f=false
Quote:
Manson later wrote about the groups he met at the Spiral Staircase:
The day we first drove up, we were innocent children in comparison to some of those we saw during our visits there. In looking back, I think I can honestly say our philosophy--fun and games, love and sex, peaceful friendship for everyone--began changing into the madness that eventually engulfed us in that house."


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SteganosaurusRex
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 		To a certain extent I feel like much of the analysis of this is simply circular. Yes there are references to Manson, etc. But I think we are not doing much more than discovering that a murder mystery involves a murder and a murderer.

Lull, on the other hand...caught my attention.

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Llull also invented numerous 'machines' for the purpose. One method is now called the Lullian Circle, each of which consisted of two or more paper discs inscribed with alphabetical letters or symbols that referred to lists of attributes. The discs could be rotated individually to generate a large number of combinations of ideas. A number of terms, or symbols relating to those terms, were laid around the full circumference of the circle. They were then repeated on an inner circle which could be rotated. These combinations were said to show all possible truth about the subject of the circle. Llull based this on the notion that there were a limited number of basic, undeniable truths in all fields of knowledge, and that we could understand everything about these fields of knowledge by studying combinations of these elemental truths.


and further down
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The idea was developed further by Giordano Bruno in the 16th century, and by Gottfried Leibniz in the 17th century for investigations into the philosophy of science. Leibniz gave Llull's idea the name ars combinatoria, by which it is now often known. Some computer scientists have adopted Llull as a sort of founding father, claiming that his system of logic was the beginning of information science.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramon_Llull

Llull was a Christian apologist so I doubt there is a literal connection between him and decans, but decans are one tenth of a circle, so there may be more here. I will keep looking.

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SteganosaurusRex
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 		After carefully researching Llull (i.e. reading the rest of the Wiki article I linked to) I found

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Ramon Llull also had a strong mystical side, instantiated in his work The Book of the Lover and His Beloved, written in order to illuminate weary, sterile souls. He was also interested in, and wrote about, astrology.


I know that Yates has a chapter on him which I have not read yet.

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SteganosaurusRex
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 		And just before I got a chance to suggest Greatymarten was mentally ill, I found this:
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In Marvel Comics' anthology title Marvel Comics Presents #143 (December 1993), Llull's Ars Magna, animated by magic, became a foe of the Scarlet Witch [1].


(He made a crack about "the Whizzer).

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At the end of this adventure, the Whizzer erroneously believes himself to be the father of the mutant twins Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whizzer_(Robert_Frank)

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Deccan Blue
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 		Double helix in the sky tonight
Throw out the hardware
Let's do it right


...checked out the latest Levenda?

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