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jaeger138
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Instant? Is she online? Or is it someone else? Damn, can't go on FB right now!

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Lionheart_619
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she's on right now. Im talking to her too. But she got offline before I had a chance to ask anything.

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mikefreelove
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mikefreelove wrote:
I just got a message on FB....
Kuroi

ask and ye shall recieve...
9:35pmMichael

How are you feeling tonight...do you have the energy to talk?

We are trying to figure out what we are missing

Looking over the old entries
9:37pmKuroi

two points in time... one is past.. one and present..

do not be confused...
9:38pmMichael

Do you mean the flowers? The ones from the past and the present one we have to save

Or is the present journals the ones in the differnt writing?
9:38pmKuroi

yes

what is done is done..it can not be undone..but what is yet to happen...can be changed
9:39pmMichael

Is the flowers still alive then, and we must save her?

How can we find him...to stop him?

Is his job important to us?
9:43pmKuroi is offline.


Looks like we need to separate the entries....maybe he is looking at the new girls with the tattoos and he thinks they are his wife because of the tattoo...so when he mentions his wife in the later entries, he is talking about the others that were kidnapped.

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Lionheart_619
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Guys totally new entries at journals.php!

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jaeger138
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nevermind, we have 5 dead so far according to the pictures but he says it happens every year in his 09 entry so that's at least 9 including the double kidnap in 01.

A strappado is a torture device where you're hung by your hands which are tied behind your back. Sounds painful!

Maybe the girl in the wanted poster is the final victim who we're saving. But he must have a new way of containing these victims.

Theory time, I think he may try to trap the 'demon' inside himself unless he has found a better way of containing it.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:54 pm
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mikefreelove
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More on FB...
Kuroi

ask and ye shall recieve...
9:35pmMichael

How are you feeling tonight...do you have the energy to talk?

We are trying to figure out what we are missing

Looking over the old entries
9:37pmKuroi

two points in time... one is past.. one and present..

do not be confused...
9:38pmMichael

Do you mean the flowers? The ones from the past and the present one we have to save

Or is the present journals the ones in the differnt writing?
9:38pmKuroi

yes

what is done is done..it can not be undone..but what is yet to happen...can be changed
9:39pmMichael

Is the flowers still alive then, and we must save her?

How can we find him...to stop him?

Is his job important to us?
9:51pmKuroi

i could be...

if you know what he does...he does not stray from the path...

only the method
9:53pmMichael

Is he a carpenter?
9:53pmKuroi

that he is not
9:53pmMichael

Is that how he can make the boxes?
9:54pmKuroi

no...is was a kind man...a hard working man...
9:54pmMichael

Do you remember what he does for a living? We are trying to find him so we can save the other flower before the winter.
9:54pmKuroi

we met in a park...
9:54pmMichael

Lincoln Park?
9:54pmKuroi

we went to differnt shools...
9:54pmMichael

Was he working?
9:54pmKuroi

yes...
9:55pmMichael

A grounds keeper?
9:55pmKuroi

that he is not...

continue to read...
9:55pmMichael

I see the new entries are up...have not been able to read them yet...
9:56pmKuroi

read..then ask...
9:57pmMichael

Does he still work in the park...I see he saw the 2 girls on the way from work
10:00pmKuroi

never...
10:02pmMichael

Does he always find the flowers in the park?

Did he move near the park recently to be closer to work?

Where is the one that got away? is she the key?
10:03pmKuroi

none got away
10:05pmMichael

The demon is the one that keeps escaping...the one he mentions in the journals then?
10:06pmKuroi

one did not listen...one tried to be free...she is not with me and the others...

she was killed instantly...
10:07pmMichael

Are the others with you still...I thought they went to the light
10:07pmKuroi

daisy is in the light
10:08pmMichael

Then we need to find him, not only to save the flower, but also to allow the others and yourself peace and allow you to go to the light?

Daisy is your daughter?
10:09pmKuroi

yes...

was to be...

her soul is now free...
10:10pmMichael

I do not know where to go now...what are we missing?
10:10pmKuroi

share with the bond...
10:11pmMichael

I am sharing as we speak...



.
.
.
Michael

I am sharing as we speak...
10:15pmMichael

What are we missing from the 941 videos, we do not see anything else
10:16pmKuroi

that which are still...can not speak...that which move...
10:18pmMichael

Is the blindfolded girl the one that we have to save?
10:18pmKuroi

correct...
10:19pmMichael

Who is the man...there is an image of a man in the video also, and in the journal
10:19pmKuroi

which man...
10:20pmMichael

The first image...looks like a man that has his face...removed and pinned.

it appears several times in the video and in the journal
10:21pmKuroi

the mask he wears.. is only to conceal...the man who has sinned...shame shall not reveal...
10:22pmMichael

Does he work with antiques?

Or collectibles?
Michael

If we find where he works, then we can find him...
10:27pmKuroi

find him you can...but it will be fruitless...
10:28pmMichael

Do we need to find where he is keeping her? Do you know where he keeps the flowers?
10:31pmMichael

Kuroi is no longer online. The following was not sent:

Does he keep them at the lakehouse? (send as a message)

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jaeger138
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Kuroi on FB:

only one does the deed...the power gives him lead...he alone plants the seed...journals left for you to read...

So only one guy, either split personalities or he's posessed.

And she said he works with antiques, so asking if we can find him at his workplace.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:18 pm
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Lionheart_619
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Tlaked with Kuroi on FB.

Quote:
ask and ye shall recieve...
6:38pmRonnie

Hello Kuroi

We have all been trying to go over the clues again. We are trying to make a connection we missed.
6:39pmKuroi

where have you been looking...
6:39pmRonnie

I personally have been looking in the old journals.

And trying to find something in them.

You say that only one does the deed. I assume this means that there is not two murderers, only one correct?
6:42pmRonnie

Are you there Kuroi?
6:44pmKuroi is offline.
6:48pmKuroi

yes sorry...the voices were..calling
6:49pmRonnie

Its ok. I found the new journal entries and am reading them right now.
6:49pmKuroi

only one that is correct...
6:49pmRonnie

I think you said that the entries are from two different times right?
6:49pmKuroi

correct
6:50pmRonnie

I see. Kuroi, does the time 9:40 have any connection to this? It seems ti be in all of the newspaper clippings.
6:52pmRonnie

Im sorry kuroi was that the wrong question?
6:52pmKuroi

no...its just so hard to remember it all...
6:53pmRonnie

I understand.
6:53pmKuroi

sorry..distractions...i will try to focus more...
6:55pmRonnie

No worries Kuroi. We have all been wondering about the killers occupation. Do you have any idea what it is? We think he might use his occupation to get away with this somehow.
6:55pmKuroi

that is correct...
6:56pmRonnie

We are trying to figure out his job, but the clues are scarce as far as that goes we think.
6:56pmKuroi

he loved to collect...i remember that much...
6:57pmRonnie

Do you remember anything in particular that he collected?
6:57pmKuroi

all sorts of things..

old...many things were so old...
6:58pmRonnie

I see. Maybe he was an antique dealer?
7:00pmRonnie

Thinking about it, that was one of the reasons that the two young women went into his house in the first place.

To see his old stuff
7:01pmKuroi

did they...
7:02pmRonnie

I think so. That and the alcohol.

Or maybe it wasnt his home.

No i think he says it was.
7:05pmRonnie

He took them to his house and drugged them after showing them his strappado.
7:07pmKuroi

strappado...such an awful thing...
7:07pmRonnie

It is indeed.
7:07pmKuroi

i remember...remember when he brought it home...
7:07pmRonnie

Do you remember why he had an interest in it/

?
7:09pmKuroi

it was part...part of an exhibit he was working...on...
7:09pmRonnie

What kind of exhibit calls for a torture machine?

Is he a curator at a museum or something like that?
7:10pmKuroi

....
7:10pmRonnie

Kuroi are you ok?
7:11pmKuroi

he loved.. the lord... and anything...that associated with it...

even if the methods did not justify the means...

they all did it in his name...
7:12pmRonnie

Kuroi who is they? Please tell me who THEY are?
7:12pmKuroi

the people of old

look at the history...why was such a machine made... i can not tell you more...
7:14pmRonnie

strappados were used on accused witches in the salem witch trial days.

So i assume that they were used to drive evil spirits out of people?
7:15pmKuroi

correct
7:15pmRonnie

And when you say the people of old, i assume tht you are talking about the people who used to torture people who they believed were posessed. And it was all done in God's name.
7:15pmKuroi

correct...
7:16pmRonnie

Just like Mr.Black believes he is doing.
7:16pmKuroi

correct...

he believes.... the lord... gave him this right...

i may have been a sinner...but my sin was not as great..as he...

daisy....

he did not know...daisy...
7:18pmRonnie

Daisy was your unborn daughter yes?
7:18pmKuroi

yes...
7:18pmRonnie

He didnt know that you were pregnant?
7:18pmKuroi

correct...
7:18pmRonnie

Was Daisy his?
7:19pmKuroi

...

that is my sin...
7:19pmRonnie

So daisy is not his then?
7:19pmKuroi

daisy... was from a differnt seed...
7:20pmRonnie

I understand.
7:20pmKuroi

but that flower....well it never came to be...

he took her away...away from me...
7:21pmRonnie

Yes he did. Do you think that things would have gone differently if he knew about Daisy?
7:22pmKuroi

....worse
7:22pmRonnie

I agree.
7:23pmKuroi

i was planning to leave...

could not find a way to explain...
7:23pmRonnie

May i ask why you wanted to leave him and cheated on him?
7:25pmKuroi

he would not let me go...
7:25pmRonnie

I see. Kuroi may i ask you a question?
7:27pmKuroi

ask...
7:27pmRonnie

You said that he does not stray from the path, only the method. I think you mean he never strays from doing god's work. Does this mean his occupation is religious based?

Like a pastor or a bishop or something?
7:28pmKuroi

no...

he does what he does..for the love of the lord...he does not stray...he keeps to the path...
7:28pmRonnie

I see.
7:29pmKuroi

i must go... the voices are pulling


Not too revealing but thought i would post it anyway.

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jaeger138
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Well she flat out told me he works with antiques, I'm thinking you were right to ask if he was a curator. Exhibit, that's the key word for his occupation. Maybe it's related to his faith and the antiques somehow? What religious place would have exhibits?

I tried to ask if we could find him at work but no luck, she left before answering.

More on FB, two messages:

"The Lord God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to work it and keep it" "If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat. For we hear that some among you walk in idleness, not busy at work but busybodies. Now such pers...ons we command and encourage in the Lord Jesus Christ to do their own work quietly and to earn their own living."

"Slaves obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not by way of eye-service as people-pleasers but with sincerity of heart fearing the Lord. Whatever you do, work heartily as for the Lord and not for men, knowing that from the Lo...rd you will receive the inheritance as your reward You are serving the Lord Christ."

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To be honest....I'm flummoxed.

Religious path....strappado.....met in a park.....while he was working.

Ideas so far i think are on the right path - Some kind of museum worker (maybe in a theological museum?), but being a pastor or something similar is not out of the question. I've got pastors in my family and they are always transferring to a new Parrish or something.

Honestly, I'm grasping at straws. But I figure the more we can discuss and discount, the narrow our search is going to become.

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Quote:

"The Lord God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to work it and keep it" "If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat. For we hear that some among you walk in idleness, not busy at work but busybodies. Now such pers...ons we command and encourage in the Lord Jesus Christ to do their own work quietly and to earn their own living."

An amalgamation of Genesis 2:15 and 2 thessalonians 3:10-3:12

Quote:
"Slaves obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not by way of eye-service as people-pleasers but with sincerity of heart fearing the Lord. Whatever you do, work heartily as for the Lord and not for men, knowing that from the Lo...rd you will receive the inheritance as your reward You are serving the Lord Christ."


Collossians 3:22-3:24

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Lionheart_619 wrote:
Quote:

"The Lord God took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to work it and keep it" "If anyone is not willing to work, let him not eat. For we hear that some among you walk in idleness, not busy at work but busybodies. Now such pers...ons we command and encourage in the Lord Jesus Christ to do their own work quietly and to earn their own living."

An amalgamation of Genesis 2:15 and 2 thessalonians 3:10-3:12

Quote:
"Slaves obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not by way of eye-service as people-pleasers but with sincerity of heart fearing the Lord. Whatever you do, work heartily as for the Lord and not for men, knowing that from the Lo...rd you will receive the inheritance as your reward You are serving the Lord Christ."


Collossians 3:22-3:24

well from what i gather, god doesnt like lazy people. so this guy works hard because he's afaird god will be unhappy with him.
rereading the the conversaions. i dont think he worked in the park i think she was saying yes to that they met there.
i also think he is a musuem curator of some kind. maybe he likes to personally collect items that partain to the work of god. since the ronnie conversations say what the strappado was ment for.

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battlecat wrote:
To be honest....I'm flummoxed.

Religious path....strappado.....met in a park.....while he was working.

Ideas so far i think are on the right path - Some kind of museum worker (maybe in a theological museum?), but being a pastor or something similar is not out of the question. I've got pastors in my family and they are always transferring to a new Parrish or something.

Honestly, I'm grasping at straws. But I figure the more we can discuss and discount, the narrow our search is going to become.


Ok theories.... theories... so... I agree with this museum worker thing (because kuroi-moira said he wans't an antique dealer) but something that bugs me is how could he convince the two 2001 girls to go home with him (I mean by common sense you say no; and he states, not directly, he didn't knew them) and this "new" demon containing thing.

Sorry I couldn't post earlier I have school test.

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I'm sorry guys, I got something out of a conbersation with Kuroi last night but my connection got cut right in the middle! Grrrrr! Anywyay, it's about his job, she elaborated a little more but I couldn't finisht the chat like I said so this is all I got.

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Anony

Kuroi, Moira. Did your husband work woth antiques at all?
03:22Kuroi

yes...
03:23Anony

And his place of work, can we find him there somehow?
04:36Kuroi

he does not stray...from the path his god has choosen...

he does his work faithfully...without questions..

i remember...he never took a day off...unless they gave him one... or it was the sabbath...

but he was not a minister...

he felt he was not chosen...for that path...
04:39Anony

he was chosen for another?
04:40Kuroi

yes...
04:41Kuroi

he loved to collect..items of the lords..work...he loved to show...show methods that were used...in the days of old..by those who did gods work..before him...
04:42Anony

so he set uo his own museum or disply?

*set up
04:44Kuroi

...confused
04:45Anony

his work, his job, did he set up his ow businees? perhaps a museum to display his items? or is it simply a personal collection?
04:46Kuroi

a little of both...they would pay him...to set up the displays...but everything he displayed he would pay for...they were his to own...
04:47Anony

i see, so he may be hard to find? he travels?
04:48Kuroi

i remember...he would be gone for weeks at a time...i was very lonely...
04:49Anony

what drove you from him in the end?
04:49Kuroi

he loved his god...his god more then me...after a while...i became too lonely...he would never lay with me...
04:51Kuroi

i remember...he was so handsome...of all the girls he could have chosen...he chose me...
04:53Kuroi

but...in the end...he wasn't what i thought he would be...


So he's no minister and he travels for his work, his collection definitely is related. That means he's not a museum curator then, but maybe he works in a travelling show of some sort? He gets paid to display his collection and he travels, so that's something but I don't know how it will help.

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Items of the lord's work seems sounds like objects of religious significance, but "methods that were used" and the inclusion of a strappado in his collection seems to indicate it's more likely torture devices used for the inquisition, witch trials, etc. He bought and collected the items himself, but was paid to display them and was gone for long periods of time.
So either a showcase of historic torture devices, or some sort of bdsm show?

Edit: I just noticed in journal2 that he says the girls were interested in his "Salem" items so presumably he collects items from the Salem witch trials.

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