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louiscontaldi
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 		Got a second call: This time less creepy and i got most of it.. just some key words that were uncleat. I dont know what the PM is using but it is certainly messing with the sound quality on his end. Loving the phone calls though

Quote:
Lou: Hello?

BB: Lou, have you forgotten me?

Lou: Not at all! I am here to help.

BB: I am the black butterfly.

Lou: I figured that much

BB: i cant rememre much but i will tell you what i can remember

Louis: Sure, I am trying to get this all down so i can tell everyone else.

BB: I can remember him.. .trying to [cure] me

Lou: Are you safe at the moment?

BB: Im safe wher i am now

Lou: Thats good.

BB:I have to go now.

Lou : Be safe


That part with cure i was unsure about. Shotty reception. why is it always the keywords

@Cristylezo1o: Could have been through alot of ways, I keep my number both on facebook but also on this site. She could have gotten it from either.

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Cristylezo1o
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Lionheart_619 wrote:


I think it would have to be option A. I don't know why, but option B doesn't seem right to me. I think that if she was dead, and not just being held captive, then i wouldn't be receiving threatening phone calls from her captor telling me to "back off". Just my thoughts though.
Yeah but she keeps talking about the flowerS= plural....maybe she's trying to warn us

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 		One thing that I find weird is that in the video with all the carnage "the voices" video all of the images are still frames except the last girl,the same one from the first video. Plus Kuroi picture is different from the girl in the video...just my thoughts

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louiscontaldi
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 		New page is up after the second article.

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Lionheart_619 wrote:
ieus wrote:
usagi20 wrote:
ieus wrote:


i think the part of the collection is important that could mean we can expect to find some short of dead girls collection somewhere

its quiet possible remember back in the first video we got, the pictures of all the butterflys and then you said something about a muesume or something , the pictures showed a box with a bunch of butterflys mounted.

side note

as far as the website is concern
according to louis and his conversation with kuroi
she believes she might be dead

and then the coversation kuroi had with ronnie on fb
she discribes a purgetory like place.
or as being inbetween worlds

reading her fb friends posts someone joked about luis phone call saying he had 7 days


makes me think more of the movie that ring.
the little girl from the ring managed to create a video tape
and used the phone to inform her next kills they would die in 7 days.
all while she was dead.


So we have two theories:

A) she is mad and think she is in the purgatory

B) She is in fact death and is manipulating the internet to do her will

(sorry if i got myself carried away but i can't avoid it)


I think it would have to be option A. I don't know why, but option B doesn't seem right to me. I think that if she was dead, and not just being held captive, then i wouldn't be receiving threatening phone calls from her captor telling me to "back off". Just my thoughts though.


That sounds logical (but asuming this is fantasy and anything can happen), maeby if it is option B the captor told you to back off because he doesn't want you to uncover everything (ike before just theories)

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 		the page nine is quite unusual. She is talking about a girl diying in no time; she calls herself the buterfly and the name of the pic is "Iamawarenow" if you gogle it many things come out but nothing really related

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 		sorry for double post but new page of the jurnal is up

http://noirbutterfly.yolasite.com/journals3.php

the sonnet is this one

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Sonnet_79_%28Spenser%29

from this guy

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Author:Edmund_Spenser

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louiscontaldi
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 		An analysis on the poem:

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Spenser's Sonnet 79, both reflects and rejects renaissance ideas. It reflects the idea that time is passing by and life will soon come to an end. Like many renaissance sonnets Spenser's Sonnet 79 is trying to immortalize a lover. However, this sonnet differs from the typical renaissance sonnet when it comes to ideas about beauty. The typical renaissance sonnet is written in praise of a lover, usually only of her physical beauty. Spenser's Sonnet 79, however, goes much deeper and looks at the inner beauty of moral virtue.

The main theme of the sonnet is that time will cause physical beauty to fade away but the beauty of virtue will stand the test of time and allow a person to remain beautiful even after their outer beauty has faded away. It then goes on to suggest that this inner beauty will live on after death.

The sonnet is written about a women who is physically attractive but who is also virtuous. However, it is only her moral virtue that is praised, not her physical beauty. The sonnet compares the woman's physical beauty to that of a flower, saying that like the flower, her fairness will fade away with time. Spenser concludes the poem by saying that the only lasting beauty is "perfect" beauty which he says is the kind of beauty that is both displayed and created by God. It is this inner spiritual beauty that will stand the test of time and live on even after the death of the physical body. Spenser is suggesting that one can achieve immortality through virtuous behavior because their soul will live on even though their body deteriorates with time. Spenser is also trying to convey the idea of true love. Love based on spiritual compatibility rather than physical attraction. The poem could be interpreted to mean that while beauty fades, true love will last because it is not based on outward appearance.

This sonnet, though it is very unique, in some respects resembles Shakespeare's Sonnet 130, in which he describes his mistress as not particularly beautiful but still in his eyes "rare." The similarity between the two sonnets is that neither is praising physical beauty. The difference however is that Spenser is commending moral virtue while Shakespeare is mocking the over use of hyperbole.

Spencer's Sonnet 79 has lasting value because it communicates a very important idea, an idea that is slipping away from us. Modern American culture is so obsessed with unrealistic physical beauty ideals, especially for women but for men also. In America we hear cheesy cliché's such as "its what's on the inside that counts" and "don't judge a book by its cover," but no one takes them seriously. There is constant pressure on young people to be physically attractive but there is no one pressuring them to be morally virtuous. This is just one of the many reasons why literature is so valuable. It preserves ideas that are worth preserving. Unfortunately because the majority of Americans today have no interest in literature a lot of important values are lost.


I can see how htis fits into storyline

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 		creating a wiki, will give details shortly. It's quite bare but I'm tired (5:17 am here) so if people could edit and update as they see fit, but try and keep it to facts only if you can.

Also, had a conversation with Kuroi on facebook, it's posted below. The wings6.php page is up if people haven't seen yet.

Quote:
Anony

Kuroi, hello
03:48Kuroi

hello...
03:48Anony

how are you feeling?
03:49Kuroi

i no longer.... i no longer feel...
03:49Anony

is there any information you can give us? How are you getting online? Where was the last place you remember being? Who has kidnapped you?
03:51Kuroi

i am not pinned... nor am i free... i am in the space... the space inbetween...
03:51Anony

between where? life and death? reality and illusion?
03:53Kuroi

reality or illusion.... does not register...illusion can be ones... reality

i am in the inbetween..

nor living..nor dead... no longer pinned

voices...the voices ask me to go...to go with them.. but i can not... i am not finished here...
03:55Anony

don't go anywhere, just tell me everything you can. We are trying to help you, but we need you
03:57Kuroi

its so hard..hard to communicate...everytime...everytime i try..it takes a part of me...
03:58Anony

then you need to tell us as much as you can, we don't want you to lose any part of yourself, but we need as much info as possible before it becomes too difficult for you to contact us
03:59Kuroi

i will stay as long as i can...so hard to use the...the energies of this space...
03:59Anony

well we appreciate you trying, it means as much to us as it does you

what can we use to help you? what information do we need?
04:01Kuroi

i remember...he kept saying...he kept saying...he wanted to save me...
04:01Anony

we think he wanted to do an exorcism, he has issues with your butterfly tattoo, what can you tell me about that?
04:03Kuroi

...

it is written...
04:04Anony

in the journals?
04:04Kuroi

journals...yes...
04:04Anony

are there more of these? so that we can study them further for more clues
04:05Kuroi

the clues... are within... the old...
04:06Anony

ok, we have accessed the old journals, we will continue to study them. but what are they clues to? will they unlock more pages for us to view?
04:07Kuroi

yes...keep...reading...it will save you 2...
04:59Kuroi is offline.


According to page 6 the author is not a flower but a butterfly. And there was a flower in the top corner of page 5. Not sure what it means precisely, but her reference to winter coming may mean the 'flowers' will die soon.

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 		New page found!
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I was thinking we haven't check the old pages in quite some time, so I did a little investigation and noticed he kept writting I will save you...you I typed in saveyou and behold a new page
pats herself on the back ;D
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http://noirbutterfly.yolasite.com/saveyou.php


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 		There is a new oldjournal up!

http://noirbutterfly.yolasite.com/oldjournals5.php

turns out the first exorcism didnt go so well

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jaeger138 wrote:
creating a wiki, will give details shortly. It's quite bare but I'm tired (5:17 am here) so if people could edit and update as they see fit, but try and keep it to facts only if you can.

Also, had a conversation with Kuroi on facebook, it's posted below. The wings6.php page is up if people haven't seen yet.

Quote:
Anony

Kuroi, hello
03:48Kuroi

hello...
03:48Anony

how are you feeling?
03:49Kuroi

i no longer.... i no longer feel...
03:49Anony

is there any information you can give us? How are you getting online? Where was the last place you remember being? Who has kidnapped you?
03:51Kuroi

i am not pinned... nor am i free... i am in the space... the space inbetween...
03:51Anony

between where? life and death? reality and illusion?
03:53Kuroi

reality or illusion.... does not register...illusion can be ones... reality

i am in the inbetween..

nor living..nor dead... no longer pinned

voices...the voices ask me to go...to go with them.. but i can not... i am not finished here...
03:55Anony

don't go anywhere, just tell me everything you can. We are trying to help you, but we need you
03:57Kuroi

its so hard..hard to communicate...everytime...everytime i try..it takes a part of me...
03:58Anony

then you need to tell us as much as you can, we don't want you to lose any part of yourself, but we need as much info as possible before it becomes too difficult for you to contact us
03:59Kuroi

i will stay as long as i can...so hard to use the...the energies of this space...
03:59Anony

well we appreciate you trying, it means as much to us as it does you

what can we use to help you? what information do we need?
04:01Kuroi

i remember...he kept saying...he kept saying...he wanted to save me...
04:01Anony

we think he wanted to do an exorcism, he has issues with your butterfly tattoo, what can you tell me about that?
04:03Kuroi

...

it is written...
04:04Anony

in the journals?
04:04Kuroi

journals...yes...
04:04Anony

are there more of these? so that we can study them further for more clues
04:05Kuroi

the clues... are within... the old...
04:06Anony

ok, we have accessed the old journals, we will continue to study them. but what are they clues to? will they unlock more pages for us to view?
04:07Kuroi

yes...keep...reading...it will save you 2...
04:59Kuroi is offline.


According to page 6 the author is not a flower but a butterfly. And there was a flower in the top corner of page 5. Not sure what it means precisely, but her reference to winter coming may mean the 'flowers' will die soon.


ok two things:

One this winter thing might be somhow related to some ritual being performed on certains dates and times (maeby the madmen exorcises the girls on "winter"). I think the flower is because the girl is trying to indicate to us the next one in the death row

two: Ithink the "so hard to use energies" takes out theory A of she being a traumatizated girl and leaves us with the B theory (she is in fact a spirit)

Interesting audio

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 		We can definitely assume something paranormal is going on I think, I doubt she's referring to a backup generator powering her PC when she talks about energies.

Also, has anyone elsed noticed the bad spelling? Don't know if the PM is just rushing and making spelling mistakes, but does anyone think that's important?

And what audio are we talking about? What did i miss?

Wiki is made, like I said, it's quite bare, but if people could update and edit when new info is found and add anything I missed that would be great.

http://kuroichou.pbworks.com/

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jaeger138 wrote:
We can definitely assume something paranormal is going on I think, I doubt she's referring to a backup generator powering her PC when she talks about energies.

Also, has anyone elsed noticed the bad spelling? Don't know if the PM is just rushing and making spelling mistakes, but does anyone think that's important?

And what audio are we talking about? What did i miss?

Wiki is made, like I said, it's quite bare, but if people could update and edit when new info is found and add anything I missed that would be great.

http://kuroichou.pbworks.com/
Cristylezo1o wrote:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
I was thinking we haven't check the old pages in quite some time, so I did a little investigation and noticed he kept writting I will save you...you I typed in saveyou and behold a new page
pats herself on the back ;D
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
http://noirbutterfly.yolasite.com/saveyou.php
Then you click on spoiler link on bottom you have to click the wave which brings you to this
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
http://noirbutterfly.yolasite.com/resources/saveyou.wav


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 		aha, i see. Well i'll add it to the wiki

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