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[ASD]

Is it possible that Alex no longer knows what's actually on the tapes? He knows there's something wrong or horrifying, but he can't remember, or does not want to, which is why he hands it over to J more easily than he should.

Also, I'm new here as well. Hello everyone.

[TNC]

Hmm. It's possible he may not remember any of the events DUE to Entry 14. Maybe he got a concussion, or Slender Man erased his memory somehow? Then, when he saw all the tapes, he went back to see just what the hell it was, got freaked out early on and wanted to get rid of them by any means necessary.

I also want to bring to light te parallelism between MH and JAF at this time; Both characters, Alex and Joshua, have the first initial thought to burn their evidence, and instead pass it on.

Congratulations, Dav, you're the new J.

[Grooze]

[JiroKage]

Considering the volume of tapes it was mentioned he had "filled up the back of his car" coupled with his frantic mental state, it's altogether possible he didn't remember anything "incriminating" on the tapes. Consider also, that if he did edit out pieces of the tapes himself, perhaps he considered himself protected already.

[fezzik]

All of these are good thoughts and yes, the explanation might be some combination of these things. But think about it from Alex' perspective. He had to assume that J would watch the tapes, probably right away. J didn't do that, but Alex would've assumed he would at least watch parts of them. It's possible Alex didn't remember their entire contents, true. And before Entry #14 I might've believed that Alex might be casual about them. But in Entry 14 the man is bleeding profusely from his head. Me, I'd remember that. So assume J watches them (or parts of them) and sees that. Wouldn't he go back to Alex? That seems like it would be a really awkward conversation that undoubtedly Alex wouldn't want to have. Remember, J didn't find the tapes, or get them by mistake. Alex gave them to him on purpose (yes, after being coerced, but still). Alex seemed to want it to just all go away, and giving those tapes to J was not the way to make that happen. It was contrary to his goals. So, the only things that make sense to me are:

1) For some reason (amnesia? depression?) Alex forgot what was on the tapes, or just couldn't bring himself to care anymore. Seems kind of unlikely or at least out-of-character, but certainly possible, especially if we assume some sort of paranormal influence ("these are not the tapes you're looking for").

2) J had some way of talking him into it, some leverage, e.g. blackmail.

3) Alex wasn't planning on being around long enough to care; he knew he was disappearing immediately and didn't think he'd ever be found. This is honestly my favorite explanation.

4) J is flat out lying about the whole thing, or at least how he got the tapes.

[Of course there's still 5: it really doesn't make any sense and the PM just didn't think it through enough. I'm really hoping that's not it.]

[Egevened]

Just a note

J is human, therefore cannot be trusted

[ASD1]

Well, there were many tapes, and J didn't watch them right away, right? Alex could've already left by the time J found the tape that had him bleeding and in shock.

[TNC]

[fezzik]

@ASD1: Sure, could be, but I wouldn't think Alex would count on it. The more I think about it, the more I feel that Alex had reason to think J would never be able to get back to him about the tapes, and for that reason it didn't matter. Whether Alex just thought he would be moving away and couldn't be found, or had something more sinister/paranormal in mind I can't say. Or, of course, J is just lying.

[OOG]
I get a weird dichotomy feeling from MH. Some parts of it seem fairly amateurish; the dependence on YouTube, the kinda-makes-no-sense story, the fact that months in we really have no idea what the point is or what's going on, the nagging suspicion that there's no overall plan or game, just some odd videos. But then other things seem pretty well done; the movies are satisfyingly spooky and well put-together. Some serious planning had to go into this thing: locations scouted, costumes or digital effects, some non-trivial A/V editing, finding actors, and staying generally on top of things. Anyone who's tried to do this sort of thing can tell that the people making those videos know what they're doing. So I can't decide if MH is just going to fizzle out or whether it's actually so good that it's kind of laughing at us; e.g. whether it's just crazy or Crazy Like A Fox.
[/OOG]

[Cineball]

At this very early point in my involvement I like to believe the "J is lying" theory above any others.

This begs the question, what does he have to gain by putting the story out there? If he is lying there must be a reason and the only logical conclusion is that he was involved in the Marble Hornet/SM events in some way and is throwing us all off his trail. To play Devil's advocate myself for a while, here's what could have happened:

J knew his "friend" was making this film. J decided to screw with Alex's production either as a joke or to gain academic advantage. Remember that J claims he and Alex were both film students so there would be competition for scholarships and whatnot. So J drives Alex insane. Alex isn't sleeping well, he's always stressed, he is constantly recording himself. J succeeds in stopping Alex's effort and Alex never discovers that J was behind it all along, but he keeps the tapes for some reason. J finds out that Alex still has all these tapes and has to acquire them somehow in case there's any incriminating evidence that would be grounds for academic retribution, loss of funding, expulsion, etc. J convinces Alex to hand over the tapes and waits until Alex is long gone so that he's not likely to see that J is creating a new storyline out of the footage casting Alex in a different light and throwing the suspicion on others in on the production.

None of this explains who TTA is, and I'd rather SM simply be SM. But J should never be above reproach.

[Slender freak]

I believe that Marbel hornets is just a really good youtube movie, or if it can be proven---REAL!

[dpt]

[Future Sith]

So do we think this theory is still good?

[TheNightmareComplex]

It's not the most impressive theory, but still a pretty good one.

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